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Old 06-28-2007, 10:04 PM   #1
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Does anybody have these springs on a 2006 WRX. I would like to know how the ride is and what they look like if you have pics. NEED TO GET RID OF MY S-TECHS NO BUENO! PM me If you would like.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:07 PM   #2
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moved to the correct forum

You might want to search in this forum
there are loads of discussions and lots of photos too
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:14 PM   #3
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Instead of buying the SPT pink springs you can buy takeoff USDM STi springs to get the same spring rate. The only difference is that they don't lower as much (10mm difference? 20mm? can't remember)

I know at least two folks using them with good ride quality. As for looks, imagine your car lowered 10 mm in the front

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Old 06-28-2007, 11:39 PM   #4
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I have the USDM STi pinks on my 06 WRX. I had the Cobbs for a while and wasnt happy with the ride quality. I'm happy with the ride quality on the pinks.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:45 PM   #5
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you expect somebody to buy the Stechs after saying they are no good? ...
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:01 AM   #6
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Instead of buying the SPT pink springs you can buy takeoff USDM STi springs to get the same spring rate. The only difference is that they don't lower as much (10mm difference? 20mm? can't remember)

john
they don't lower as much as they are not made for the WRX

SPT Pinks are designed specifically for the "not-STi"

a more appealing overall design and function for the specific car (WRX, RS, 2.5i)
even "if" the spring rates are the same or similar
the springs themselves are not
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Old 06-29-2007, 03:24 AM   #7
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I don't see how a little bit more height in the front is a bad thing, because the rear actually is about the exact same height between the 2 from what i've seen

the main difference is 50 vs 250
looks
finish
and the fact usdm sti springs won't work as well with a wagon (sag)
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Old 06-29-2007, 07:24 AM   #8
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they don't lower as much as they are not made for the WRX

SPT Pinks are designed specifically for the "not-STi"

a more appealing overall design and function for the specific car (WRX, RS, 2.5i)
even "if" the spring rates are the same or similar
the springs themselves are not
Well, appealing or not, it works, as long as you do all the matching tophats and such. I don't know what "appealing overall design and function" means.

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Old 06-29-2007, 08:01 AM   #9
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Instead of buying the SPT pink springs you can buy takeoff USDM STi springs to get the same spring rate. The only difference is that they don't lower as much (10mm difference? 20mm? can't remember)

I know at least two folks using them with good ride quality. As for looks, imagine your car lowered 10 mm in the front

john
I think mine was 15mm up front, but I got springs from an 04, so my rear sits a hair lower than it would if I had 05-06 STi springs. I confirmed this with a friend of mine who did the same as me, but with 06 springs.
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Old 06-29-2007, 09:11 AM   #10
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Well, appealing or not, it works, as long as you do all the matching tophats and such. I don't know what "appealing overall design and function" means.

john
plainly put

STi springs are designed (rate, stance, function) for STi struts

SPT Pink springs are designed (rate, stance, function) for WRX struts


WRX and STi struts are not the same

So yes, STi struts will "work" but you'll obtain better performance out of something MADE for the car


*shrug*

To each their own. And to each their own budget as well.
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Old 06-29-2007, 09:40 AM   #11
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Instead of buying the SPT pink springs you can buy takeoff USDM STi springs to get the same spring rate. The only difference is that they don't lower as much (10mm difference? 20mm? can't remember)

I know at least two folks using them with good ride quality. As for looks, imagine your car lowered 10 mm in the front

john
I'm using '05 STi springs/tops on my '02 wagon with stock '02 struts (strut spacer in rear).

I know two other wagons using them just locally.

It works for me and it was cheap. :shrug:

Arguably both STIs and WRXs are slightly undersprung from the factory, so I really don't see a problem using STI takeoffs or SPT pinks on WRX struts. I actually like having more ground clearance for rally-x and gravel adventures.

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Here's your saggy wagon butt

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Old 06-29-2007, 10:20 AM   #12
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plainly put

STi springs are designed (rate, stance, function) for STi struts

SPT Pink springs are designed (rate, stance, function) for WRX struts
Let's break this down.

rate: For the USDM SPT WRX Pinks and the USDM STi springs, the springrates are the same, so you can cross that off the list, even though the struts are different. They could have made the pinks softer and they didn't.

stance: The stance is what, 5mm different?

function: Function? They're both springs. They both function... as springs. With the same spring rates. And virtually the same height.

The better performance comes from what?

It's just a happy coincidence for WRX owners that they can get 99.9% of the same spring at 20% of the cost.

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Old 06-29-2007, 12:05 PM   #13
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You make me very sad. I bought SPT/STI springs for my 06 and another guy at the auto-x had the STI springs which seemed fine. Could've saved myself a crapload of money if I had seen this before.
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Old 07-12-2007, 02:10 AM   #14
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Wait
excuse me for a sec
so what they call the STi pinks like this ....
https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/p...roducts_id=627

is actually called SPT pinks as well?

I thought that SPT have another set of springs
correct me on this

and this STi pinks
https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/p...roducts_id=627
is NOT JDM, but made for the USDM 2.5/WRX ?

I am asking this because there are people talking about JDM pinks...
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Old 07-12-2007, 02:35 AM   #15
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OK, get ready for a trip down the rabbit hole...

Basically, SoJ's STi division sells a set of springs to the JDM that are pink and intended to lower a STi with increased rates. In the US, SoA's SPT division sells a set of springs to the USDM market that are made by SoJ's STi division, are painted pink, bear the STi logo, and are intended to lower a WRX with increased rates. The pink springs sold to the USDM intended for WRXes happen to be the same rate and almost exactly the same height, as the stock, black springs on the USDM STi.

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There are a handful of pink springs. The most common ones people refer to as "JDM pinks" have a rate of 257 lbs/inch front, 217 lbs/inch rear, and are intended to match with the stock STi struts. SPT sells a "pink" spring that is sold through US dealers and is intended as an upgrade for the WRX. Rates are similar to the stock STi springs. Putting these on an STi will not be much of an upgrade. There are other JDM pinks (including the "Tuned by Arai" springs) that have higher rates than the standard "pinks" and are too stiff to be paired with the stock STi struts.

...

If you are buying used, the way to determine whether you are getting the "JDM pinks" is by a paint marking on the second coil from the top - it should be light blue. The US/SPT pinks will have a white paint mark.

JDM "pinks"

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So I have a 2006 STI with some Tein Springs and stock struts. I am looking for some better handling springs for autocross, track days and still daily driven ( I know, I want it all and dont want to pay for it). Would the STI Pink JDM's be a good choice? Some racers have been telling me they actually think the Teins may be a little too low for the best handling.
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So I have a 2006 STI with some Tein Springs and stock struts. I am looking for some better handling springs for autocross, track days and still daily driven ( I know, I want it all and dont want to pay for it). Would the STI Pink JDM's be a good choice? Some racers have been telling me they actually think the Teins may be a little too low for the best handling.
Which Teins? S.Techs? Then, yes, they suck monkey balls. H.Techs? They're a little lower than optimal.

The JDM STi Pinks would be a good option as would the RCE Yellow or Normal Guy springs depending on how much drop you want.
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I have S. Techs.
I dont really want a lot of drop. I am more interested in the handling than the drop.
If I go with the JDM STI Pinks, do you know how much drop they give? Also, how about the struts? Leave the OEM ones in there?
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I have S. Techs.
I dont really want a lot of drop. I am more interested in the handling than the drop.
If I go with the JDM STI Pinks, do you know how much drop they give? Also, how about the struts? Leave the OEM ones in there?
The JDM Pinks have pretty much the maximum drop you can get away with, as so the RCE Yellows. Either would be REALLY pushing the stock strut, but you could probably get away with it for a while. The RCE Normal Guy springs have much less of a drop (RCE has said about 10mm lower than stock STi) with greatly increased rates, so that should really be a winner.
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I did not know anything about the RCE springs, so I read a few posts and their web site. All I found out about were the yellows. They sound interesting. Stiffer than the JDM Pinks with about the same drop? I'm still undecided. I am more confident with the Pinks because of the name and association with Subaru. Is the quality of the RCE as good or better than the Pinks?
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I did not know anything about the RCE springs, so I read a few posts and their web site. All I found out about were the yellows. They sound interesting. Stiffer than the JDM Pinks with about the same drop? I'm still undecided. I am more confident with the Pinks because of the name and association with Subaru. Is the quality of the RCE as good or better than the Pinks?
The physical quality is as good. Recent events with the RCE Yellow v1 springs have proven that STi's R&D is still superior. However, the Yellow v2 springs fixed the problem and are being given to owners of v1 springs, so it works out. If I didn't think the Normal Guy springs were too low (even an STi is too low for me), I would have been very interested in them.
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I did not see any info on the Normal Guy Springs-just on the Yellows. I agree though, I do not want to go too low. I think the Teins may actually be a little too low- they look nice, but I do not think the handling is optimal at that ride height. At least, that is what several of the other drivers at my last autocross event have been telling me, they see the car bounce and seem to bottom out. So I think a little more suspension travel would be a good thing.
Do you think the JDM STi Pinks are lower or higher than the Tein STechs?
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Another thing that is strange is the Tein web site lists the STechs as 252/219 spring rates. The JDM Pinks are 257/217. Those do not seem very different. I would hate to buy the Pinks go through the switch and not notice any real difference. Anyone have any experience here?
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I did not see any info on the Normal Guy Springs-just on the Yellows. I agree though, I do not want to go too low. I think the Teins may actually be a little too low- they look nice, but I do not think the handling is optimal at that ride height. At least, that is what several of the other drivers at my last autocross event have been telling me, they see the car bounce and seem to bottom out. So I think a little more suspension travel would be a good thing.
Do you think the JDM STi Pinks are lower or higher than the Tein STechs?
The Normal Guy springs are actually called the Blacks I think. They're not on the website yet because they're still shipping the pre-orders. If you're interested, call RCE and they can tell you WAY more about them than I can.

The S.Techs are far, far too low. They screw up roll center, bump length, put you in the bumpstops, screw your camber curve.. the list goes on and on. From a performance/handling standpoint, S.Techs are pure concentrated evil.

The S.Techs drop A LOT more than the JDM Pinks. The S.Techs drop over 2" whereas the JDM Pinks drop less than 1.5" (not sure of exact spec off the top of my head, but I know it's less than 1.5" because that's where the control arms invert).
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Another thing that is strange is the Tein web site lists the STechs as 252/219 spring rates. The JDM Pinks are 257/217. Those do not seem very different. I would hate to buy the Pinks go through the switch and not notice any real difference. Anyone have any experience here?
The problem with the S.Techs is not the rate, it's the drop. They totally screw up the suspension geometry. The JDM Pinks may be the same rate, but the put the car at a MUCH better height. Think of them as S.Techs done right
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