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Old 07-11-2007, 12:12 AM   #1
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Cool trying to make a list of what i need $1500 budget

so im trying to figure out what to do to my 02 wagon, would like to do suspension and get to stage 2 performance. can anyone get me a list of items, manufactures, and prices so i can have something to refer to in my searches. thanks so much. and remember under $1500 for the things i really need.
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:23 AM   #2
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Unless you plan to go open source for your EM or buy everything used you are going to have a hard time getting to stage 2 + suspension mods for less than 1500.

TBE - $700+ new
Cobb AP - $700 new

So now you have stage 2 but your budget is shot.

As for brands...
Cobb - AP - Exhaust - Suspension
Apexi - Exhaust
Greddy - Exhaust
Tanabe - Exhaust - Suspension
Borla - Exhaust
Whiteline - Suspension
Cusco - Suspension - Etc
Perrin - Exhaust - Suspension
Mad Dad - Exhaust
Tein - Suspension
AND etc for ever..............
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:27 AM   #3
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Sway bars are the best bang for the buck.
You can't go wrong with them.
Get front and rear bars and you will notice a difference immediately.

If I were to do it all over again, I would get these first.

Now you need to figure out which size to get?
Buy new or used?
Which MFR?
Buy both and get a packaged price?

Depending on what you choose, the prices will vary.

I run Whiteline 27mm adj front, and 24mm adj rear.
I paid about $350 for them shipped.
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:30 AM   #4
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so for suspension just do sway bars, or will i need to do coil overs?
and whats this "open source" that sounds good to me i just know nothing about it.
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:33 AM   #5
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sways and springs are a great combo. you can find a used turbo back and accessport on here for alot cheaper than buying new.
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:37 AM   #6
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I think that open source you should research for yourself as there is a bit too much info to cover here in the n00b section. Specifically you will want to search Tactrix + enginuity + openecu. You can find links to the engine management forum and Unabombers FAQ below.

Forum: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=80

Unabombers FAQ: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=795608
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:26 AM   #7
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sways + rear endlinks= 450 bucks shipped NEW
opensource tuning...look into it. free software. you need a laptop and a tactrix cable and they have stg 2 roms. 70 bucks for the tactrix
980...you can find a good used TBE+UP for 700 bucks
the remaining...you can buy springs, but id recommend saving that money
buy sti takeoffs for cheap and put aside for some decent struts IE: tokico dspecs or kyb agxs which should be in the 400-500 range new.
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:35 AM   #8
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great nice post................
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:09 PM   #9
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If you haven't already done it, driver training will be absolutely the best investment you can make. Better than any go-fast part you can put on the car, since driver training goes with you wherever you go, and will help you out by providing you with a controlled setting where you can find the car's limits, explore them, and know what happens when you go beyond them. Also, clubs have instructors who will ride with you and help you out to learn how to handle the car.

Helmet - ~250
SCCA/BMWCCA/some other performance auto club membership that does track and auto-x ~ $40

(these prices are based on my experience, YMMV)
Autocrosses - ~35 / event
Track days ~200 / day
Safety school/low-speed manuverabilty school ~50 / session

And here's the stuff you will likely be going through at a faster pace:
Brake pads ~75-150
Tires ~500
Brake fluid ~4

Still well under $1500. I am a member of the local BMW club, you don't need a BMW to join, and they are always happy to have new members.
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Old 07-11-2007, 03:32 PM   #10
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Gutted stock up pipe $50-75
Used UTEC-$400
Used Downpipe-$100-$275
Modded stock injectors $300
used VF39-$300

There ya go. $1300, now go smoke the isht out of the stage 2 AP fanboys Because you will be a good 30whp past them.

You could go even cheaper with enginuity, and have enough leftover for a professional tune.
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Old 07-11-2007, 03:32 PM   #11
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If you haven't already done it, driver training will be absolutely the best investment you can make. Better than any go-fast part you can put on the car, since driver training goes with you wherever you go, and will help you out by providing you with a controlled setting where you can find the car's limits, explore them, and know what happens when you go beyond them. Also, clubs have instructors who will ride with you and help you out to learn how to handle the car.

Helmet - ~250
SCCA/BMWCCA/some other performance auto club membership that does track and auto-x ~ $40

(these prices are based on my experience, YMMV)
Autocrosses - ~35 / event
Track days ~200 / day
Safety school/low-speed manuverabilty school ~50 / session

And here's the stuff you will likely be going through at a faster pace:
Brake pads ~75-150
Tires ~500
Brake fluid ~4

Still well under $1500. I am a member of the local BMW club, you don't need a BMW to join, and they are always happy to have new members.

No amount of driver training will take away that completely uninspiring feeling when you are driving to work and mash down on the gas.
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:15 PM   #12
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to davenow, can you eplain some of these terms and tell me how to go about them IE gutted up pipe, UTEC? vf39? thanks
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:14 PM   #13
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vf39 is a turbo, utec is a device for tunning, turbo up pipe, IE...usually intake and exhaust.....correct me if im wrong.
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:20 PM   #14
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update for people, my whip is coming along
got a sick TBE for 600 (MRT)
used up for 50
going to do opensource and get a tune
waiting on my sway bars
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:35 PM   #15
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Gutted stock uppipe - Free plus the cost of tools if you do it yourself (or find someone selling one already gutted for $40)
Downpipe - catted is more expensive than uncatted, used is 20-50% cheaper than new and still functions the same
Cat-back - new is more expensive than used and still functions the same
OpenECU/Enginuity - Free engine tuning software that someone it your area can probably use and only charge a small fee for tuning your car.

$40 uppipe, $150 downpipe, $400 cbe, $100 tune = $690 for stage 2 power


Adjustable struts - Tokico D-spec is great, Koni is also great
Springs - Swift, SPT, Prodrive all have moderate drops with good rates
Topmounts - Upgrade to '04+ topmounts because the rears have an updated design and they'll have less miles on them
Spacer - See TiC for a spacer to adapt the rear struts to newer topmounts

$540 for D-specs, $300 for a set of springs (cheaper if used), $150 for topmounts (find them used), $23 for spacer to adapt D-specs to '04 rear topmounts, $35 for camber bolts in the rear, $100 for a good alignment = $1148 for a great suspension upgrade

Skip the struts and topmounts and you're down to $450 and well within your total budget.






And so now I read the post above and see that the OP is already a few steps ahead of me. Well done sir!

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Old 11-01-2007, 02:13 PM   #16
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thanks everyone
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If you haven't already done it, driver training will be absolutely the best investment you can make. Better than any go-fast part you can put on the car, since driver training goes with you wherever you go, and will help you out by providing you with a controlled setting where you can find the car's limits, explore them, and know what happens when you go beyond them. Also, clubs have instructors who will ride with you and help you out to learn how to handle the car..
I am in my cube clapping. Best answer in the thread! Soup for you!

I don't quite understand Davenow's answer, but I think he forgot the <sarcasm> </sarcasm>

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Old 11-01-2007, 02:19 PM   #18
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hey driver training would be smart.
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