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Old 07-11-2007, 09:25 PM   #1
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I was driving down 301 and I went to shift to 3rd and it just ground then I know it broke. I drove it home which is like less than .1 mile. taking it to the dealer whenever I get my trailer from the woods and hook it up and tow it down the dealer. Just asking what everyone thinks I should do. I have and exhaust and guages on my car should I remove them so not to void the warranty?
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Old 07-11-2007, 09:40 PM   #2
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Just call the Subaru roadside assistance phone number that's on your driver's door window.
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I was driving down 301 and I went to shift to 3rd and it just ground then I know it broke. I drove it home which is like less than .1 mile. taking it to the dealer whenever I get my trailer from the woods and hook it up and tow it down the dealer. Just asking what everyone thinks I should do. I have and exhaust and guages on my car should I remove them so not to void the warranty?
Go ahead, commit fraud. It's not like it would not be blatantly obvious that the bolts were just removed and re-installed.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:16 PM   #4
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That is fraud? Then if they reject me that is fraud.
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That is fraud? Then if they reject me that is fraud.
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You break it and remove parts that may have aided in the failure in an attempt to get SOA to cover the repair, and they are the ones in the wrong?

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Old 07-11-2007, 10:47 PM   #6
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it works.....and its not really fraud

there is probably over a million ppl who have had emissions problems or some other ***** and they had to change out their turboback back to stock so that the dealer wouldnt give them **** about it.

and you should be good anyways bro.....how is GAUGES in any way related to grinding your 3rd gear? same with exhaust...how would that do with the tranny? there is a law..some act of i think 1982 or some *****..... basically they cant deny you that warranty unless they PROVE that the mod was related to the damage done.....gauges? are you kidding me man? keep em on, it would be a waste taking them off...as for the exhaust....you may possibly need to just put back on ur stocker...just to remove any instances of them blaming it on that...but other than that, exhaust and gauges isnt related to any cause of blowing ur 3rd gear.

i have an amazing experience that got warrantied....something about blown turbos
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:51 PM   #7
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its a no win situation... SOA sticks to their guns... unless your axle seal leaks out all the gear fluid and it breakes... basically, your in deep...

you can change your exhaust out if you want, thats your descision..

tell them, this is your first time with an AWD car and you arent used to it, see if they will pay for the labor... thats your best bet

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it works.....and its not really fraud

there is probably over a million ppl who have had emissions problems or some other ***** and they had to change out their turboback back to stock so that the dealer wouldnt give them **** about it.

and you should be good anyways bro.....how is GAUGES in any way related to grinding your 3rd gear? same with exhaust...how would that do with the tranny? there is a law..some act of i think 1982 or some *****..... basically they cant deny you that warranty unless they PROVE that the mod was related to the damage done.....gauges? are you kidding me man? keep em on, it would be a waste taking them off...as for the exhaust....you may possibly need to just put back on ur stocker...just to remove any instances of them blaming it on that...but other than that, exhaust and gauges isnt related to any cause of blowing ur 3rd gear.

i have an amazing experience that got warrantied....something about blown turbos

If you don't know what you are talking about then don't post.

It is clear that I am referring to the exhaust system in regards to removing modifications.

It is fraud, plain and simple.

Care to tell me more about your blown turbos, I would be fascinated to hear about it.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:57 PM   #9
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If you don't know what you are talking about then don't post.

It is clear that I am referring to the exhaust system in regards to removing modifications.

It is fraud, plain and simple.

Care to tell me more about your blown turbos, I would be fascinated to hear about it.
hey man, i know you are an SOA loyalist and all... but seriously instead of the "OMG YOU BROKE IT< GO DIAF YOU NOOB!" attitude, lets offer suggestions in a positive way. Technically takin an exhaust off is not honest, this is true, but instead of calling him a swindling, insurance scammer, lets help.

We all know that SOA will not warranty this transmission. Any gear failure is basically an automatic denial (almost). He is new to subaru and lets show him some suby love and offer better suggestions as to how we can help.

Have you ever broken a tranny on a brand new car and asked to get it warrantied?
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hey man, i know you are an SOA loyalist and all... but seriously instead of the "OMG YOU BROKE IT< GO DIAF YOU NOOB!" attitude, lets offer suggestions in a positive way. Technically takin an exhaust off is not honest, this is true, but instead of calling him a swindling, insurance scammer, lets help.

We all know that SOA will not warranty this transmission. Any gear failure is basically an automatic denial (almost). He is new to subaru and lets show him some suby love and offer better suggestions as to how we can help.

Have you ever broken a tranny on a brand new car and asked to get it warrantied?
All I'm asking is for people to be honest, no need for the personal attack.

Yes I have had a transmission issue (synchros, thanks to Royal Purple) that I paid for. Was it a product issue? No, it was my choice to use a ****ty gear oil that caused the failure, I did not submit it for warranty even though I could have writted it off as a bad part, it's called responsibility.
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:39 AM   #11
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Have you ever broken a tranny on a brand new car and asked to get it warrantied?
Yeah, my friend frank is on his 3rd tranny. Its a '06 GTO (10k miles). He broke the first one the first week he had it. I know its not Subaru but I have seen it done before. And this is why my next car will not be a Subaru
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:01 PM   #12
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Yup I am calling subaru when they open and I this will be my first and last subaru I am just so sick of this car and if they say they wont fix it I am going to go pitch a fit all over the place. I never ground gears never was hard on it I never got hard on a new car till it has at least 5,ooo miles this thing efing sucks.
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hondaslayer... relax man. An exhaust is MAYBE a 5% increase in power. If the 5% increase alone breaks the transmission, then the product is a badly engineered piece of crap. These cars have such a reputation for warranty denial that he's wondering if he should put the exhaust back together for that sake of dealing with less bull****. Claiming that a 5% increase in power over stock is the root cause of a transmission failure is what is fraudulent, and if Subaru were to do that then they would be the ones defrauding the customer.

Yet another broken 3rd gear on a 3.70FD WRX, what a freakin' surprize! Maybe he did thrash it, who knows? All I'm saying is don't jump to conclusions... at least give the guy a chance to explain his position.

That being said, if the exhaust and gauges are your ONLY modifications, I would just take it in like it is and give them the full story. They are more likely to deny your warranty if they see that exhaust nuts/bolts have been disturbed (evidence that you are not being honest)... nobody likes being lied to, and they probably see it all the time. Leveling with them is your best bet.

I haven't once dealt with subaru for warranty work, as I bought my car used and out of warranty, but I hear way too many horror stories here.
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hondaslayer... relax man. An exhaust is MAYBE a 5% increase in power. If the 5% increase alone breaks the transmission, then the product is a badly engineered piece of crap. These cars have such a reputation for warranty denial that he's wondering if he should put the exhaust back together for that sake of dealing with less bull****. Claiming that a 5% increase in power over stock is the root cause of a transmission failure is what is fraudulent, and if Subaru were to do that then they would be the ones defrauding the customer.

Yet another broken 3rd gear on a 3.70FD WRX, what a freakin' surprize! Maybe he did thrash it, who knows? All I'm saying is don't jump to conclusions... at least give the guy a chance to explain his position.

That being said, if the exhaust and gauges are your ONLY modifications, I would just take it in like it is and give them the full story. They are more likely to deny your warranty if they see that exhaust nuts/bolts have been disturbed (evidence that you are not being honest)... nobody likes being lied to, and they probably see it all the time. Leveling with them is your best bet.

I haven't once dealt with subaru for warranty work, as I bought my car used and out of warranty, but I hear way too many horror stories here.
Why the **** should I relax? I am agreeing with you that he should take it in as is. You start taking parts off the car and the first thing they are going to wonder is what else did he have on there.

The cause of the failure is most likely the loose nut behind the wheel.

A quick search of the OP's posts show that he is a 17-18 yr old male and all his experience has been with his 3 Mustangs (3 at his age, what happened to the first two?) Most likely he is driving it like a stoned chimp and THAT is what caused the failure.
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Yup I am calling subaru when they open and I this will be my first and last subaru I am just so sick of this car and if they say they wont fix it I am going to go pitch a fit all over the place. I never ground gears never was hard on it I never got hard on a new car till it has at least 5,ooo miles this thing efing sucks.


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Subaru should just get rid of their warranty since apparantly they never honor it
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Why the **** should I relax? I am agreeing with you that he should take it in as is. You start taking parts off the car and the first thing they are going to wonder is what else did he have on there.

The cause of the failure is most likely the loose nut behind the wheel.

A quick search of the OP's posts show that he is a 17-18 yr old male and all his experience has been with his 3 Mustangs (3 at his age, what happened to the first two?) Most likely he is driving it like a stoned chimp and THAT is what caused the failure.
He may very well have driven it like a stoned chimp... always a possibility, maybe even an act of high probability. But you don't deny warranty service to a customer unless you have some proof that they did abuse the product, that's terrible customer service and alienates your customer base. For Subaru to deny the claim soley based on the exhaust is rediculous. There are ways of identifying evidence of abusive driving (clutch/flywheel condition, type of failure, tire condition, etc.) and an exhaust is not one of them. Warranty denial is perfectly acceptable, if there is strong evidence that it's the customer's fault.

You don't HAVE to relax, it was only a suggestion. The manner in which you act is 100% your call... Immediately cursing at strangers is something I doubt you would do in person very often (you would have met your match by now), but this IS the internet. Relxation is good though, lowers blood pressure and the risk of heart attacks. Maybe if you relax, you'll live longer

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Does SOA decline coverage to you Impreza morons that don't quite grasp what a warranty is for? Yes

Has SOA declined coverage in cases where the car was not abused / modded etc...... I'm sure it has happened at least once or twice but it is not policy (hundreds of claims, the ball has to get dropped at some point)

Does SOA generously provide goodwill assistance and out of warranty repairs on a regular basis to long time subaru owners / owners that maintain the vehicle / multiple Subaru owners? All the time. I do more goodwill work than I decline coverage by probably a 20/1 ratio.

Sorry to debunk your theories boy racer.
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You don't HAVE to relax, it was only a suggestion. The manner in which you act is 100% your call... Immediately cursing at strangers is something I doubt you would do in person very often (you would have met your match by now), but this IS the internet. Relxation is good though, lowers blood pressure and the risk of heart attacks. Maybe if you relax, you'll live longer
Now where did I curse at him again?



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If you don't know what you are talking about then don't post.

It is clear that I am referring to the exhaust system in regards to removing modifications.

It is fraud, plain and simple.

Care to tell me more about your blown turbos, I would be fascinated to hear about it.
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Go ahead, commit fraud. It's not like it would not be blatantly obvious that the bolts were just removed and re-installed.


Oh right, not until I was called out, and even then I only referred to his driving habits as that of a stoned chimp.

My replies may be short and to the point, but they are the truth, don't like it? tough cookies, this is the way the world works.
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Does SOA decline coverage to you Impreza morons that don't quite grasp what a warranty is for? Yes

Has SOA declined coverage in cases where the car was not abused / modded etc...... I'm sure it has happened at least once or twice but it is not policy (hundreds of claims, the ball has to get dropped at some point)

Does SOA generously provide goodwill assistance and out of warranty repairs on a regular basis to long time subaru owners / owners that maintain the vehicle / multiple Subaru owners? All the time. I do more goodwill work than I decline coverage by probably a 20/1 ratio.

Sorry to debunk your theories boy racer.
Thanks for calling me boy racer when my car is 100% stock and I never race. Btw I was denied clutch work warranty even when they said they had no idea why it would start to slip then completely fail in less than two weeks and the rest of my car showed zero signs of abuse. Same dealer who when I took it to to get a trade in estimate told me they never get used cars in such good condition
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I think im going to go "abuse" my car some more on I-66 in stop and go traffic now.
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I think im going to go "abuse" my car some more on I-66 in stop and go traffic now.
good idea


Subaru has got a problem- I'd like to say as usual. I have found more things let go of and untalked about since the 1980s. Diehard models that true mechanics fixed easily- gone into endangered species and extinction with reasons so pedophilic I could start a mythical war of hitlerian culture cleansing and be deemed the craziest man know to man (j/k of course).It seems everyone but subaru admitted there was a problem- and when things get dealt with it is backwards of reason.. Then comes the ej series-(the biggest retard ever) I cannot even begin to remember the BS that went with all of them- hacking genious mechanic or not. Now, I have figured the going extinct ej22 is by far the most popular of the pile of crap overglorified subaru- and they weren't even that good. In a peaceful frame of mind, I have concluded: Truth let go of and buried, reveals itself in the same way they left it. Never a friendly outcome when this happens...

what went around is coming around, the wise spotted it before it got here.

Learned subaru owners the hard way, most often the cheapest, are the happiest subaru owners I know. The rest of you have got to stop feeding this anti-engineering and lies and let it crash until true public knowledge makes changes for good. I could still cry over the ea82 (a true hidden masterpiece)

Repulsive.

Spend a few weeks at nasoic as a mechanics point of view..

trannies, egr, open decks, tgv, miscodes, 500 degree ic in your lap on a firewall designed to hold the car coldly. Ridiculous. Not to mention, I have grown up with subarus from the 80s always interested, never ever satisfied. Now the real boxer has been dead for years, and they are digging even deeper into ridiculous.

I would return that 07 car with an outrageous tantrum that would put me in some kind of legal trouble...

What can billions of dollars do for a childish inheritance of something so important... the ej subaru, that's what.
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Holy random idiotic rant.

If the EA series is such a godsend (what, with it eating timing belts roughly every 65k, not to mention the cracked heads on the turbo models) why are people removing the EA81/EA82 and replacing them with EJ18/22/25 engines?

More power, better reliability and better parts selection.

If Subaru listened to the "learned Subaru owners" (as you so boldly put it) like yourself, they would have gone out of business long ago.

The EA series engines were very good, for their day. The current crop of engines (EZ30/R for example) are very reliable under normal circumstances and even when they are asked to perform well outside of their intended function.
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Im with Hondaslayer.

I dont care what you do to your car, modifying it is modifying it. If you had 2% power to the overall design you changing the overall design.

I UNDERSTAND adding a exhaust shouldn't damage a transmission. Thats why its all in how you drive.

The OP should just take the car to the dealership, tell them the straight up truth and see what happens. Most service writers are good people, and will hear your story.

As long as your not talking like a ethug with a sideways hat most of them treat you with respect.

Example: My friend has a 05 WRX, he had transmission issues he has a SPT intake. We both went in and talked to the service writer\manager for probably 25 minutes. I explained how subaru could say that because he mods his car he might drive it more aggressively, but I also said that chances are if you buy a WRX you aren't driving it like a grandmother.

The service manager agreed and we got his **** fix under warranty intake still attached.

All im saying is you gotta PAY TO PLAY. If I break something on my car im not going to remove all my aftermarket parts and take it to a dealership. Chances are they will be able to tell that you removed aftermarket parts and give you more ****.

Keep in mind that subaru would also have to PROVE that your exhaust damaged your transmission.
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Be nice to the dealer, dont try to hide anything, ask for assistance from Subaru if they do decide to deny it.

The fact that you only have 5000 miles on the car gives you the benifit of the doubt, but dont act like an idiot making the dealer NOT want to help you and they will do their best to help.


As for modifying a brand new car and trying to fix it under warranty after its been modified... Nothing more needs to be said about that subject. We just need a sticky somewhere suggesting people interested in modifying a car buy used instead.
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