2.5wrx TD06-20G- Should I be disappointed?

06rexwagon · 07-13-2007, 03:42 PM

First off, I have over 50 datalogs from the street that show this turbo hitting 21psi at 3800rpm and not dropping below 19 at redline. On the dyno, it just doesn't want to spool. It's like it's not loading the car enough for it to replicate a street spool. This run was with:
2006 WRX wagon
TD06-20g
Prodrive BCS
Ebay TMIC
Cobb 3" catted TBE
Deatschwerks 750cc injectors
Walbro 255
APS dual vent BOV
Coolingmist basic kit running 50/50 mix meth/water
Not so wonderful NM 91 Octane
Enginuity tune.
The first pull was pathetic, but I made some good gains by the 5th. I just bought a hallman MBC and will try the dyno again next week and see how it goes.
I really thought I would get more out of the setup.

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DoctorNick · 07-13-2007, 03:50 PM

Hmm, pump gas? Shouldn't you be a little close to 11.5:1 AFR?

06rexwagon · 07-13-2007, 03:51 PM

That wbo2 isn't accurate. I talked to the dyno owner about that today again. My wb02 shows about 11.6-11.7, plus the one on the dyno is post cat. Also, I'm running meth injection.

the_colombian · 07-13-2007, 04:04 PM

350 hp and 380ish torque is good out of a 20g while still running a topmount.

I dont think the numbers are dissapointing.

Buster05 · 07-13-2007, 04:05 PM

I would be happy with that, even with it not loading right and still pulling 350 hp. thats alot on the street

06rexwagon · 07-13-2007, 04:09 PM

It's more than enough to surprise people for sure. The car looks bone stock, and well, it's a wagon.

karl750 · 07-13-2007, 04:17 PM

Good power IMO, but it looks like it spools late. I know you said it's different on the street but don't get disappointed with the numbers. You probably have yourself a mid 12second car.

TopEndPull · 07-13-2007, 04:21 PM

pretty good on a 20g with a tmic

jigga · 07-13-2007, 04:23 PM

its a dynojet.. they aren't load bearing dynos like the dynodynamics and mustang dynos...

06rexwagon · 07-13-2007, 04:24 PM

I'm feeling better already.

turboge · 07-13-2007, 04:39 PM

You're making me debate the 20g vs the 18g I was looking at... Our wagon gears slow the spool down a little. I was hoping to see full boost at 3300-3500 max. Looks like fun =)

keaniegenie · 07-13-2007, 04:53 PM

on 91 octane, those numbers are fantastic. Even with the TMIC.

If you were catless, I might expect a little more.

wuuusaa · 07-13-2007, 08:57 PM

what's your idc at?

06rexwagon · 07-13-2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ol'skoolwrx

what's your idc at?

highest is about 69%

z · 07-13-2007, 10:30 PM

Looks pretty nice...gonna hit the track?

06rexwagon · 07-13-2007, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zavigm

Looks pretty nice...gonna hit the track?

Nah, it's a daily driver and I'm afraid to break it. I can't drive worth crap anyway so I'd be embarassed by a 14sec pass with a 350whp car.

kcook · 07-14-2007, 12:25 AM

my friend made 380whp on pump gas (93) fp20g , made 420whp on c16

06 wrx stock block

- i think ur numbers are on par

turboge · 07-30-2007, 06:10 PM

Is that the 7cm2 or 8cm2 turbo? Also which turbo, DB, Blouch, etc.?

black06wagon · 07-30-2007, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turboge

You're making me debate the 20g vs the 18g I was looking at... Our wagon gears slow the spool down a little. I was hoping to see full boost at 3300-3500 max. Looks like fun =)

huh? wagon gears? I thought we had the exact same 5mt as a sedan. Can anyone confirm?

06rexwagon · 07-30-2007, 06:34 PM

8cm^2 Slowboy racing turbo.
I went back and made 353/399.
Next, GT30R.

emeterioy · 07-30-2007, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06rexwagon

8cm^2 Slowboy racing turbo.
I went back and made 353/399.
Next, GT30R.

whats the difference between the 8cm^2 and the regular 8cm?

06rexwagon · 07-30-2007, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yorlandis

whats the difference between the 8cm^2 and the regular 8cm?

the ^2 adds 62 hp.
Seriously though, they're the same.

fourmicah · 07-30-2007, 07:09 PM

I would be pleased with that out of a 20g. What is the elevation where you live?

SuperHawk · 07-30-2007, 08:00 PM

You might get little more if you have not gasket matched your ebay intercooler. The inlets were not even close to being the proper size on the one that I have. Just use a round course sanding drum in a drill motor should not take you that long to do it. Also I have read that the exhaust manifolds on the 06 WRX really need to be ported and have a bigger connecting pipe. Other than that your set up looks awesome.

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I also have a 06 wagon but am only at stage 2 currently. But the above items are cheap compared to the money that have already spent.

Super

06rexwagon · 07-30-2007, 08:03 PM

I did port match the ebay tmic. My elevatoin is 5300ft and it's 90-100F right now.

07-13-2007, 03:42 PM	#1
06rexwagon Scooby Specialist Member#: 114730 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Albuquerque, NM Vehicle: 2006 WRX Limited Wag	2.5wrx TD06-20G- Should I be disappointed? First off, I have over 50 datalogs from the street that show this turbo hitting 21psi at 3800rpm and not dropping below 19 at redline. On the dyno, it just doesn't want to spool. It's like it's not loading the car enough for it to replicate a street spool. This run was with: 2006 WRX wagon TD06-20g Prodrive BCS Ebay TMIC Cobb 3" catted TBE Deatschwerks 750cc injectors Walbro 255 APS dual vent BOV Coolingmist basic kit running 50/50 mix meth/water Not so wonderful NM 91 Octane Enginuity tune. The first pull was pathetic, but I made some good gains by the 5th. I just bought a hallman MBC and will try the dyno again next week and see how it goes. I really thought I would get more out of the setup. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads. Last edited by 06rexwagon; 07-13-2007 at 03:54 PM.

07-30-2007, 08:00 PM	#24
SuperHawk Scooby Newbie Member#: 1036 Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Las Vegas, NV USA Vehicle: 2006 WRX Wagon Ltd. WRB	You might get little more if you have not gasket matched your ebay intercooler. The inlets were not even close to being the proper size on the one that I have. Just use a round course sanding drum in a drill motor should not take you that long to do it. Also I have read that the exhaust manifolds on the 06 WRX really need to be ported and have a bigger connecting pipe. Other than that your set up looks awesome. http://turninconcepts10.chainreactio...05713579b261c7 http://importimageonline.com/product...oducts_id=1859 http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1283236 I also have a 06 wagon but am only at stage 2 currently. But the above items are cheap compared to the money that have already spent. Super Last edited by SuperHawk; 07-30-2007 at 08:18 PM.

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DoctorNick NASIOC Supporter Member#: 7022 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Chicago, Il. Vehicle: 2013 BRZ Limited SWP	Hmm, pump gas? Shouldn't you be a little close to 11.5:1 AFR?

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06rexwagon Scooby Specialist Member#: 114730 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Albuquerque, NM Vehicle: 2006 WRX Limited Wag	That wbo2 isn't accurate. I talked to the dyno owner about that today again. My wb02 shows about 11.6-11.7, plus the one on the dyno is post cat. Also, I'm running meth injection.

07-13-2007, 04:04 PM	#4
the_colombian Scooby Specialist Member#: 84912 Join Date: Apr 2005 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego Vehicle: 2003 2.5L bugeye now with 6 spd 20g!	350 hp and 380ish torque is good out of a 20g while still running a topmount. I dont think the numbers are dissapointing.

07-13-2007, 04:05 PM	#5
Buster05 Scooby Newbie Member#: 107323 Join Date: Feb 2006 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Vehicle: 2005 Impreza WRX 16g Crystal Gray Metallic	I would be happy with that, even with it not loading right and still pulling 350 hp. thats alot on the street

07-13-2007, 04:09 PM	#6
06rexwagon Scooby Specialist Member#: 114730 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Albuquerque, NM Vehicle: 2006 WRX Limited Wag	It's more than enough to surprise people for sure. The car looks bone stock, and well, it's a wagon.

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karl750 Scooby Specialist Member#: 100977 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Columbus,OH Vehicle: 2004 VF30 WRX 12.96@103.7mph 1.84 60'	Good power IMO, but it looks like it spools late. I know you said it's different on the street but don't get disappointed with the numbers. You probably have yourself a mid 12second car.

07-13-2007, 04:21 PM	#8
TopEndPull Scooby Specialist Member#: 126112 Join Date: Sep 2006 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Houston,Texas Vehicle: 93.5 Toyota Supra Red	pretty good on a 20g with a tmic

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jigga Scooby Guru Member#: 9960 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: in bed... Vehicle: 2002 Impreza WRX WRBlue Perl	its a dynojet.. they aren't load bearing dynos like the dynodynamics and mustang dynos...

07-13-2007, 04:24 PM	#10
06rexwagon Scooby Specialist Member#: 114730 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Albuquerque, NM Vehicle: 2006 WRX Limited Wag	I'm feeling better already.

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turboge Scooby Specialist Member#: 35076 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Austin/Round Rock Vehicle: 2004 507whp Wagon Silver	You're making me debate the 20g vs the 18g I was looking at... Our wagon gears slow the spool down a little. I was hoping to see full boost at 3300-3500 max. Looks like fun =)

07-13-2007, 04:53 PM	#12
keaniegenie Scooby Specialist Member#: 94494 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Seattle Vehicle: 2005 Element 92x Black	on 91 octane, those numbers are fantastic. Even with the TMIC. If you were catless, I might expect a little more.

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kcook Scooby Newbie Member#: 78074 Join Date: Dec 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: NoVA Vehicle: 2005 STi Aspen White	my friend made 380whp on pump gas (93) fp20g , made 420whp on c16 06 wrx stock block - i think ur numbers are on par

07-30-2007, 06:10 PM	#18
turboge Scooby Specialist Member#: 35076 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Austin/Round Rock Vehicle: 2004 507whp Wagon Silver	Is that the 7cm2 or 8cm2 turbo? Also which turbo, DB, Blouch, etc.?

07-30-2007, 06:34 PM	#20
06rexwagon Scooby Specialist Member#: 114730 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Albuquerque, NM Vehicle: 2006 WRX Limited Wag	8cm^2 Slowboy racing turbo. I went back and made 353/399. Next, GT30R.

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fourmicah Scooby Specialist Member#: 128760 Join Date: Oct 2006 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Over there> Vehicle: 2012 Ruckus/WRX Red&White/Gray	I would be pleased with that out of a 20g. What is the elevation where you live?

07-30-2007, 08:03 PM	#25
06rexwagon Scooby Specialist Member#: 114730 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Albuquerque, NM Vehicle: 2006 WRX Limited Wag	I did port match the ebay tmic. My elevatoin is 5300ft and it's 90-100F right now.