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Old 07-17-2007, 09:45 AM   #1
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Now that I have your attention...

I am building a 1973 vw super beetle with what was supposed to be a WRX engine but turned out to be a JDM STI V3 engine.

So here are a few pictures of my progress...

This is the frame after stripping the car off...



Currently in the process of stripping and coating the frame.

My plans for the car are pretty much to have a nice quick street car.

This is the engine I just got. Not what I thought I bought, but it will do The guy told me it was a wrx engine, turn out to be the STI version 3



So as I progress with the build and have questions for you all, I will be updating this.

For starters...this engine came with a 16g turbo ?...which means I need to replace it with that turbo right?
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:29 AM   #2
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Alright, after a couple of questions, I am going to explain a little in depth as to how the swap works...so I may be a little long winded in this post.

It starts with cutting the fire wall out of the Bug and moving it forward about a foot...piece of cake!

Next is the tranny. When I bought the engine, the guy who sold it to me, also sold it with an adapter for an 091 VW Tranny...which is a tranny out of a late model bus. A little beefier and able to handle more HP than the bug tranny. The trick to making the engine fit in the campartment is by moving the tranny forward in the crable 4.6 cm. This will leave 1 inch of clearance at the back of the motor by the rear apron.

After thats fabbeb up, I get to figure out the fly-wheel and clutch...havent figured that out yet

Before I bolt up the engine and start figuring out the exhaust, I have to flip the manifold around and figure out the turbo and such. As far as wiring goes, I know i've seen the wiring mounted on the newly made firewall and ran to the engine.

This swap has been done before by quite a few people, so I have internet help. And a local guy who has knowledge about suby engines, but not swaps. So it will be a learning experience all around. I am sure I will need a lot of peoples help from this website, so I look forward to learning with you guys!

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Old 07-17-2007, 12:46 PM   #3
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Nice score on the Version III!

I like conversions such as this. Looking forward to the final result

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Old 07-17-2007, 01:24 PM   #4
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Thats going to be a seriously fun VW.

<-- 74 Super in storage back in Michigan.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:25 PM   #5
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I dont think it will be in storage too long...when you see mine that is
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:22 PM   #6
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check out rjes in the UK they make bellhousings for the type 2 box(shorter housing for fitting up,uses suby starter.) the adapter you have should have kennedey written on it . Kennedey eng. is the place for flywheels and clutches ,you can order from www.outbackmotorsports if you dont want to wait,also hecker machine makes the stuff. The stock type 2 box will not handle the power of that motor for long. You'll need it built up. what are you doing for engine managment? do you have the wiring and ecu?
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:29 PM   #7
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Yeah, it came with the wiring, ecu, and adapter. I want to get the built 091, but it around $2500 for the built tranny.

What tranny you runnin in your bug with the EJ20? Jonny P. I am going to need a lot of help from you!
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:59 PM   #8
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I'm runnin a 901 porsche trans out of a 912 its a light trans that can handle alot of power(about 250hp from what i'm told) with care ,and if you look hard enough you can find one cheap, you'll have to cut up you rear apron ,or get real creative with the torsion bar.
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:30 PM   #9
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I dont think it will be in storage too long...when you see mine that is
Mine isn't getting the conversion treatment. I had just put in a new motor before tucking it away maybe 10 years ago. I had it at college and it took one too many vandals to convince me to put it in a safe place. Lost both rear fenders and it got paintballed and egged. Unique car in a pick-em-up truck ruled hick town drew too much attention.

When I put it away it had about 3k on a new motor, new tires, and probably 50k original miles. I lost the original motor when a piece of plug dropped into the cylinder and frragged the motor. I had just read about this fairly rare occurance in HotVW a couple months before. That sucked.

However, I have a 73 Ghia sitting in the neighbors barn back in Michigan that I want to make into this.
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:31 PM   #10
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I have no qualm with cutting up the body

The thing for me is getting the adapter for it. I dont know if I mentioned but I am on a budget.
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Old 07-17-2007, 04:53 PM   #11
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thats going to be a blast dude.... when I was a kid my old man built a couple of super Beatles, (still has one). he kept them mostly original but put a bigger turbo and engine there... lots of fun, ill find pics
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:06 AM   #12
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You might as well get another credit card cause a low budget and a turbo subie in a vw is like buying an old porsche with some parts missing. Good luck, you've made a good start. I'm afraid you're going to need a second job.

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Old 07-18-2007, 07:57 AM   #13
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lol...when I say low budget..I mean I am just being aware of what I buy, and making good decisions. Shop around before I jump in, you know.
I know its gonna cost a penny or two.
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:20 PM   #14
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Whoa, whoa. Next time I'm in Tallahassee I'll have to stop by and see the progress/completed car.

Good luck!
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:37 PM   #15
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Always welcome to stop by..even go for a ride if its done when you come through!
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:08 PM   #16
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This is awesome! I'm hoping to do a WRX swap into a Type 3 eventually.
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Old 08-11-2007, 03:48 AM   #17
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I would to see this finished. I almost dropped a 2.3l turbo ford motor that is bored to 2.5l and a t3/t4 .63. Supposedly 450+rwhp. Would have been fun.
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Old 08-12-2007, 05:07 PM   #18
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Yeah, I am woking on it...trying to collect parts, but I dont really have a lot of money right now.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:00 AM   #19
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Default wow i have a type3 notch

What i have in the works is a subaru powered 1964 volkswagen notchback (type3) and what i was hopping is some local san diegans to give me a hand, pointer, do's, and don't.

also will be looking into performance parts new or used. i just want to know the right part to get so i dont waist the time and money in the because this car is completly disassembled and there is no time to waist.

thanks for stoppin, maybe chattin with you soon

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Old 08-15-2007, 02:08 AM   #20
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Default look at hot vw's mag

at this months (september) issue of hot vws on page 79 there is a gray notch with a scoobie in it its in and it looks really good its a 2x3 pic lol

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Old 08-15-2007, 02:21 AM   #21
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:01 PM   #22
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Alright, just a quick update...

I have the header and up-pipe...still in the market for a VF-22 pr VF-23, cant seem to find one for the right price at the moment.

And the tranny will be here soon, I have the $2000 I need for the prosche tranny, so fitting the engine and tranny to the frame will happen soon!

OH YEAH, IM STOKED

**EDIT** The tranny adapter was for a Porsche 930 trans which can take up to 500HP with no problems, which is a good thing. The only bad thing is this tranny hasnt been used many times, so I am sort of on my own with making it fit!
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:28 PM   #23
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do you have any updated pics, or is everything still in pieces?
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:04 PM   #24
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Still in pieces...place to start fitting it together soon...
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:15 AM   #25
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What are you going to do for the radiator setup?

I plan on doing this to a Thing in the near future... more room for the motor, and the radiator will fit nicely into the nose without interfering too much with the trunk.

JC
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