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Old 07-18-2007, 01:37 AM   #1
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Well finally I get to do a little modding. Responsibility has it's rewards and downfalls! Anyways, just looking to get some input from the local boys and girl... about engine performance upgrading. A limited budget like most people, so looking to do quality, yet 'bang for the buck' too.
I do like what Cobb does w/ the access port and all, but they want alot for there exhausts. Does it really matter what TBE you go with as long as it is good quality-W/ the AP? And does anyone recommend used turbo's? That seems alittle unpredictable. Anyways, any constructive input would be great!
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:40 AM   #2
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hmm.. first off, what have you done so far? and what are you ultimately wanting to do??

nothing wrong with buying used or almost new items. i highly recommend an AP or some sort of good ECM, you might be able to pick one up slightly used as well. you don't need to buy Cobb's parts unless you want, but they are very high quality. i'd recommend stage 2 and you can probably do it for less than $2000 if you don't need NEW. look in the FS threads and you'll find plenty of good exhausts and other parts.
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:51 AM   #3
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So far nothing performance wise. Pretty much stock 06'. I definately think stage 2 is the first thing to do. I just don't know if it matters w/ the AP what non-Cobb products you're using.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:07 AM   #4
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In my opinion, used parts are often as good as new. Any good quality downpipe and catback are essentially equivalent to any other. If you see an opportunity to buy used, do a little research on the parts you're buying, and then go for it.

Used turbos are obviously more risky than a stainless downpipe, but if you can determine that the unit is low mileage and hasn't been overboosted or otherwise abused, it can be a real bargain.

Your mod $'s will go alot farther with used parts, if you can find them.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:28 AM   #5
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If you use Cobb's basemaps, you should do it the exact way they tell you for safety sake. If you get something else besides Cobb parts, use AP and get a PDX e-mail map. Stage 2 by PDX is pretty satisfying.

Turbo back exhaust. $300-$1000
Stock intake. Free
STi intercooler. $100-$300
K-N panel filter. $60
Cobb Access Port $500-$600
PDX map $60

That should be good.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:37 AM   #6
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I know its not any fun and no performance gained, but put that $2,000 towards the loan on the car. In the end you'll come out better off. You get the car paid off earlier, and then you can spend all of your money on mods.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:40 AM   #7
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it does not matter if you use Cobb parts or other manuf parts for Cobb OTS maps. PDX maps will run you $150. also check rallitek and a few other places, however, i highly recommend PDX.

basic cobb stg 2 set up is TBE and uppipe with tune. find a used AP vs a new AP and your costs will be even less.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:54 AM   #8
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I know its not any fun and no performance gained, but put that $2,000 towards the loan on the car. In the end you'll come out better off. You get the car paid off earlier, and then you can spend all of your money on mods.
Definetely good advice, But I was fortunate enough to pay the car off already. Had a state contract that did it for me....those don't come around too often...
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:57 AM   #9
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If you use Cobb's basemaps, you should do it the exact way they tell you for safety sake. If you get something else besides Cobb parts, use AP and get a PDX e-mail map. Stage 2 by PDX is pretty satisfying.

Turbo back exhaust. $300-$1000
Stock intake. Free
STi intercooler. $100-$300
K-N panel filter. $60
Cobb Access Port $500-$600
PDX map $60

That should be good.
Do you think I need a bigger top mount, if I don't upgrade the turbo?
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:28 AM   #10
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Do you think I need a bigger top mount, if I don't upgrade the turbo?
there have been a few discussions in the national forum about this, and it seems with the smaller 06+ tmics, its a good idea, but not necessary. if you upgrade turbos though, it becomes a necessity fast
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:08 AM   #11
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Cobb Stage 2, if you like LOUD exhausts then i dont suggest the cobb tbe.


accessport
TBE
possibly gauges.
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:29 AM   #12
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buy my dtec fuel controller
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:30 AM   #13
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what you need to do is buy a job wit yo broke ass
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:46 AM   #14
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If you use Cobb's basemaps, you should do it the exact way they tell you for safety sake. If you get something else besides Cobb parts, use AP and get a PDX e-mail map. Stage 2 by PDX is pretty satisfying.

Turbo back exhaust. $300-$1000
Stock intake. Free
STi intercooler. $100-$300
K-N panel filter. $60
Cobb Access Port $500-$600
PDX map $60

That should be good.

the look on the ricer's faces as another suby driver is out of the car by the time they get to the finish line... priceless.
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:21 AM   #15
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what you need to do is buy a job wit yo broke ass
you can buy this guys broke turbo
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:24 AM   #16
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If I had a turbo subie and my tire/suspension set-up were already done and I was not worried about PAX and I have $2k to spend I would go with Cobb Stage2.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:27 AM   #17
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Definetely good advice, But I was fortunate enough to pay the car off already. Had a state contract that did it for me....those don't come around too often...
By all means then mod away. Everything I've read seems to be good advice. Mainly the Cobb AP. It will become a necessity eventually.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:41 AM   #18
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stage 2 ftw.

or go vf39\vf34, walbro, inj, TMIC, AP & PDX tune.
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As every one said before me, go stage 2, I recently went stage 2 and love it. I have the Cobb catted DP and Greddy Evo II catback (quite compared to most but very low). I recommend you go with a catted DP. With a catless DP and high flow exhaust you can run into boost creep.
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If you use Cobb's basemaps, you should do it the exact way they tell you for safety sake. If you get something else besides Cobb parts, use AP and get a PDX e-mail map. Stage 2 by PDX is pretty satisfying.

Turbo back exhaust. $300-$1000
Stock intake. Free
STi intercooler. $100-$300
K-N panel filter. $60
Cobb Access Port $500-$600
PDX map $60

That should be good.
You don't need to use Cobb parts. Cobb doesn't specify that you do, although they do "recommend" it, of course. I'm pretty sure Cobb doesn't call for a larger TMIC with stage 2. I know they don't for my 04 wrx, but haven't researched the 06. If Cobb doesn't allow for it in their map notes, you probably shouldn't do it until you can get a different map made.

As Hope mentioned, PDX maps cost $150.
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I can't find info on PDX...where do I look?
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i got a perrin tbe for sale at a really good price...
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You don't need to use Cobb parts. Cobb doesn't specify that you do, although they do "recommend" it, of course. I'm pretty sure Cobb doesn't call for a larger TMIC with stage 2. I know they don't for my 04 wrx, but haven't researched the 06. If Cobb doesn't allow for it in their map notes, you probably shouldn't do it until you can get a different map made.

As Hope mentioned, PDX maps cost $150.
nope. base cobb stg 2 is TBE with tune. no need for larger intercooler, however it will help for your top end. if you don't need new, you can do a lot with $2000.
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