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Old 07-23-2007, 01:39 AM   #1
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Default Engine about to blow w 2k left on warranty!!

so i picked up a used 05 STi w like 50k miles. got it for a good price thats y i bought it w high miles, anyways ive put on about 7 k miles and i hear a sound coming from engine like theres a loose bolt bouncing around in there but only at 2500 rpm's
I have my buddy who works at subaru dealer take it in and have the master tech listen and try to diagnose. he says he's sure that sound is a rod that is ready to be thrown. i get a second opinion from a well know shop and the master tech there said same thing.
now im scared after reading how poorly subaru handles warranty claims that it wont be covered. the car is completely stock and i have only owned it long enough for 1 sevice which was done by the dealer.
what are my chances of getting it covered? and if they dont im getting an EVO and never buying another subaru. this is my second btw.
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:24 AM   #2
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what are my chances of getting it covered? and if they dont im getting an EVO and never buying another subaru. this is my second btw.
thx for listening
No one here can answer that, only thing I can tell you is if the maintenance record checks out then they should cover it. The only true way to find out is to try, explain the situation to SOA if they baulk.

How many subies have you had problems with, you seem so willing to jump over to a less reliable car, I'd like to know more. I have 2 subies, one with 182k and a WRX with 52k, and I have not had a SINGLE issue.
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:07 AM   #3
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this is my second . 1st was a wrx that had no big issues except it got stolen then i got this STi and now this happens and im reading that the reps dont seem to eager to help unless your the original owner w no mods and all service history records. i really like awd thats y i said an EVO. to me i have no control of what happened to car before i bought it and when i got it she was in stock form and i did the 1 sevice i could so as far as im concerned they dont really have a choice or thier warranty is b.s. but i guess they have to open it up and see if any 1 b4 me messed w it. if not i feel it should be covered. i dunno im jus worried thats all
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:39 AM   #4
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Well your buddy works there, and It doesnt sound like there is anything out of the ordinary, so you should defiantly take it in with your buddy and have the techs check it out.
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Old 07-23-2007, 04:33 AM   #5
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Well your buddy works there, and It doesnt sound like there is anything out of the ordinary, so you should defiantly take it in with your buddy and have the techs check it out.

what he said
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Old 07-23-2007, 08:36 AM   #6
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this is my second . 1st was a wrx that had no big issues except it got stolen then i got this STi and now this happens and im reading that the reps dont seem to eager to help unless your the original owner w no mods and all service history records. i really like awd thats y i said an EVO. to me i have no control of what happened to car before i bought it and when i got it she was in stock form and i did the 1 sevice i could so as far as im concerned they dont really have a choice or thier warranty is b.s. but i guess they have to open it up and see if any 1 b4 me messed w it. if not i feel it should be covered. i dunno im jus worried thats all
Wow...can you please use proper grammar and sentence structure.

How the hell is it Subaru's fault your WRX was stolen?? It sounds like you're blaming Subaru?? Subaru will be more than willing to work with you as long as you're honest. Don't proceed like a lot of people at NASIOC and try to hide things. When was the last time you checked the oil in your STi??
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:18 AM   #7
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now im scared after reading how poorly subaru handles warranty claims that it wont be covered. the car is completely stock and i have only owned it long enough for 1 sevice which was done by the dealer
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wow what a good deal..i just put my stock tbe on for a warranty issue then when i get car back ill throw the greddy evo 2 back on good luck
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:28 AM   #8
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:15 AM   #9
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Busted!!
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Old 07-23-2007, 12:24 PM   #10
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Old 07-23-2007, 12:38 PM   #11
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Why do people come onto these forums and out and out lie. Expecially when they have previously written such as the above. Thanks to Rexygirl and others that take a moment to search for the truth. I hope a copy of this thread is sent to your dealer. RP
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Old 07-23-2007, 12:40 PM   #12
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Ding! Fries are done...

Who wants to put money down that the OP isn't running any engine management with a TBE? Rod bearing failure due to detonation is my bet. The OP doesn't need a warranty, he needs a clue.
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Old 07-23-2007, 12:54 PM   #13
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the tech at subaru is the one who said to take it off! i jus put it on like 1,400 miles ago so he said it had nothing to do w my issue but because the reps are shady and will try not to warranty cars w any type of mods even if they dont relate to your problem he said just put stock back on. if it was up to me i woulda just left it on so ya u busted me..lol look at this
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"The vehicle manufacturer is not allowed to void the vehicle warranty just because aftermarket equipment is installed on the vehicle. This protection for consumers is the result of a parts self-certification program developed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA).

"Under the program, if a parts maker completes the EPA process of self-certifying its parts, the vehicle manufacturer cannot void the warranty even if the certified part has failed and is directly responsible for the warranty claim. In cases where such a failed aftermarket part is responsible for a warranty claim, the manufacturer must arrange a settlement with the part manufacturer, but the new vehicle warrant is not void under the law.

"If the failure to honor a claim involves the new-vehicle warranty, and it appears that the manufacturer is improperly denying a claim, the incident should be reported to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). The FTC is responsible for monitoring compliance with the warranty law; the agency's telephone number is 202/326-3128."

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the car is in stock form rexy =)
and conker69 wow get a life dont flame people about how they type or talk on an online forum unless your the biggest douche on the planet. which you probably are
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:06 PM   #14
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the tech at subaru is the one who said to take it off! i jus put it on like 1,400 miles ago so he said it had nothing to do w my issue but because the reps are shady and will try not to warranty cars w any type of mods even if they dont relate to your problem he said just put stock back on. if it was up to me i woulda just left it on so ya u busted me..lol look at this
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"The vehicle manufacturer is not allowed to void the vehicle warranty just because aftermarket equipment is installed on the vehicle. This protection for consumers is the result of a parts self-certification program developed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA).

"Under the program, if a parts maker completes the EPA process of self-certifying its parts, the vehicle manufacturer cannot void the warranty even if the certified part has failed and is directly responsible for the warranty claim. In cases where such a failed aftermarket part is responsible for a warranty claim, the manufacturer must arrange a settlement with the part manufacturer, but the new vehicle warrant is not void under the law.

"If the failure to honor a claim involves the new-vehicle warranty, and it appears that the manufacturer is improperly denying a claim, the incident should be reported to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). The FTC is responsible for monitoring compliance with the warranty law; the agency's telephone number is 202/326-3128."

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the car is in stock form rexy =)
and conker69 wow get a life dont flame people about how they type or talk on an online forum unless your the biggest douche on the planet. which you probably are
Yes, it now may be in stock form, but it wasn't. Having a Turbo Back Exhaust without engine management is a big no no and will cause damage. It all just depends. I like the warranty information you posted. SOA can deny the claim for your mods.
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:06 PM   #15
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Ding! Fries are done...

Who wants to put money down that the OP isn't running any engine management with a TBE? Rod bearing failure due to detonation is my bet. The OP doesn't need a warranty, he needs a clue.
yes your right but it was my mistake in the earlier post it was a catback exhaust not TBE and if you can run an SPT cat back and intake w no engine mngmt. y cant u have a greedy evo 2 cat back on and have no problems?
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:13 PM   #16
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cat back you can run with no problems.
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:17 PM   #17
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So you are running a catback or tbe?
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:28 PM   #18
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So you are running a catback or tbe?
car is stock but i had a cat back on and a k&n drop in thats it.
and because they have the SPT brand available thats y i didnt think i had to take it off but i just went w what the tech told me
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:48 PM   #19
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:31 PM   #20
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yes it has mobil 1 in it
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:45 PM   #21
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You know, airdetail, I'm curious. In reading some of your posts going back over the past year, you go into some detail on a tbe. Even when you were shopping for one on here. Are you saying that all of the times you referenced your exhaust, including comments on a CEL were 'mistakes'? Honda and Rexy, can a tech. tell with the bolt markings if it was a catback or tbe when they look at a car?
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:47 PM   #22
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^^Any you never answered my question. When did you last check the oil level??
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:01 PM   #23
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knotsure i did have a 05 wrx stage 2 i just got this car less than 2 months ago so i havent had the time or money to get alot of parts.
and i checked my oil 5 days ago it was fine. i carry oil in my trunk because i know they can burn up to a qt. every 1k miles.
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:23 PM   #24
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Gotcha airdetail. Now it makes sense. Hopefully some of the Subaru experts on here will be able to advise - if the dealer can tell with the bolts that it didn't have a tbe, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. I would guess that they can't hold you responsible for what the previous owner did. Did you buy it used from a Subaru dealer? That would be the best case. If it was a private sale, they may tell you to go to the previous owner if there is something seriously wrong that was caused by something they did. But, who knows. Lots of folks on here have good experiences. The SOA Rep. might be more cautious because it was returned to stock, but you could probably just show him/her the exhaust you took off and tell them why you did.
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Gotcha airdetail. Now it makes sense. Hopefully some of the Subaru experts on here will be able to advise - if the dealer can tell with the bolts that it didn't have a tbe, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. I would guess that they can't hold you responsible for what the previous owner did. Did you buy it used from a Subaru dealer? That would be the best case. If it was a private sale, they may tell you to go to the previous owner if there is something seriously wrong that was caused by something they did. But, who knows. Lots of folks on here have good experiences. The SOA Rep. might be more cautious because it was returned to stock, but you could probably just show him/her the exhaust you took off and tell them why you did.
By-pass valve bolts installed where the I/C brackets are and vice-versa is a common one. Missing / broken heatshield bolts, markings on the bolts going to the turbo.

Anyway, SOA absolutely can legally decline coverage for something the prior owner did if it is not a manufacturing defect.

In this case SOA will likely take care of it as a one time goodwill gesture (OP has had a Subaru before this and just bought this one used) Just play nice and SOA will likely help out. Go in there with an attitude and a sense of entitelment and they will legally shut you down.
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