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Old 07-31-2007, 03:30 PM   #1
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COPS: PAIR PUT SELVES IN PATH OF ONCOMING TRAIN ONE DEAD, ONE INJURED SERIOUSLY IN SUSPECTED SUICIDE ATTEMPTS

July 27, 2007
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An 18-year-old was killed and a female teenager was injured severely late Wednesday when a frieght train struck them in unincorporated Will County between Naperville and Aurora.

Both teens had been lying across the EJ&E tracks near 95th Street and Normantown Road about 10 p.m., according to Will County sheriff's deputies.


A freight train crosses Normantown Road in unincorporated Will County, where a train struck two teens Wednesday night.
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Kathy Hoffmeyer, a spokesman for the sheriff's department, said Christopher M. Lyons, 18, of Darien, was killed in the incident. The Will County coroner's office has scheduled an autopsy for today, she said.

His companion, a female who carried no identification, was airlifted Wednesday to Advocate Good Samaritan Hospital in Downers Grove. She was reported in critical condition Thursday evening.

According to Will County authorities, the incident is being investigated as "possible suicide," but that has not been confirmed yet.

Hoffmeyer said no car was found in the area.

The multiple-car train came to a halt just south of the crossing, on a stretch of tracks several blocks north of the intersection of Wolf's Crossing and Normantown roads.

Acting Naperville Fire Department Battalion Chief Paul Bumba said emergency crews responded to the scene after the engineer broadcast a radio report in which he expressed fear of having "hit something."

"The way I heard (the call) come in, the engineer reported he hit something, and he wasn't sure what," Bumba said. "It took us quite a while to ascertain what was hit and where (the victims) were at."

Train and vehicular traffic in the area was disrupted for several hours.

Witness reports
Michael Pirelli, a train enthusiast who wanted to capture the sound of the 1970s-era locomotive heading south on the tracks Wednesday. said he instead heard a chilling exchange between the train's engineer and dispatcher on the railroad radio channels.
"The train dispatcher said, 'Watch out for suspicious activity on Normantown Road,'" Pirelli said. "The next recording was the engineer saying, 'We just ran somebody over, laying across the tracks.' He said something like, 'They didn't even move.'"

Pirelli, of Naperville, was nearby at Wolf's Crossing Road along the Elgin, Joliet & Eastern Railway tracks. He said he could see the train's headlight from a field where he stood less than a mile away. Five to 10 minutes later, he heard sirens approach.

Susan Hoffmann, 45, lives in the Country Walk subdivision, two streets from where the medical evacuation helicopter landed. After hearing sirens and the helicopter nearby, she walked to the scene to find out what was happening.

"It's a sad story that these people will never go home again," Hoffman said. "I'd like to put a cross out. If I didn't come home, I know a lot of people would be upset."

The sheriff's department has jurisdiction over the area. Firefighters and paramedics from Naperville and the Oswego Fire Protection District participated in the rescue effort, as did police from Naperville and the sheriff's office.

The two-lane crossing lies between the unincorporated Wheatland Industrial Park on Naperville's far southwest side and a residential area near Hafenrichter Road. The crossing is equipped with automated bells, flashing emergency lights and protective gates, all of which appeared to have been functioning at the time.
This is about 1/2 from my house.

The residents have been collecting money to pay for sensors to be placed on the tracks in order to get a "Quiet Zone" established so the conductors don't have to sound the horns at all hours of the night.

As a result of this "incident" the intersection will no longer meet the safety criteria. Can residents whose property value will be affected by the faliure of the "quiet zone" sue the parents of the people who laid infront of the train for the decline on the property value?
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:33 PM   #2
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As a result of this "incident" the intersection will no longer meet the safety criteria. Can residents whose property value will be affected by the faliure of the "quiet zone" sue the parents of the people who laid infront of the train for the decline on the property value?
They probably could and thereby exemplify everything that is wrong with our litigous society.
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:33 PM   #3
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Sue the parents? On what grounds?
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:34 PM   #4
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who cares about the legal fallout? next time, get that s*** on tape! i wanna laugh at the expense of stupid people.
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:34 PM   #5
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An 18-year-old was killed and a female teenager was injured severely late Wednesday when a frieght train struck them in unincorporated Will County between Naperville and Aurora.

Both teens had been lying across the EJ&E tracks near 95th Street and Normantown Road about 10 p.m., according to Will County sheriff's deputies.
The Darwin is strong with this one...
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:34 PM   #6
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Sue the parents? On what grounds?
Yeah, they are more likely to sue the railroad.

My mum worked in the law dept for CSX and dealt will all sorts of cases where morons laid on tracks, then their families sued the railroads. The railroads just paid out so they didn't have to go to court.
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:35 PM   #7
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Can I sue the messicans down the road for lowering my property values?
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:35 PM   #8
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They probably could and thereby exemplify everything that is wrong with our litigous society.
Jesus, seriously.
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This is about 1/2 from my house.

The residents have been collecting money to pay for sensors to be placed on the tracks in order to get a "Quiet Zone" established so the conductors don't have to sound the horns at all hours of the night.

As a result of this "incident" the intersection will no longer meet the safety criteria. Can residents whose property value will be affected by the faliure of the "quiet zone" sue the parents of the people who laid infront of the train for the decline on the property value?
If you lay on the tracks, you won't have this problem anymore.
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Can I sue the messicans down the road for lowering my property values?

No, because they're not legal residents.
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Yeah, they are more likely to sue the railroad.

My mum worked in the law dept for CSX and dealt will all sorts of cases where morons laid on tracks, then their families sued the railroads. The railroads just paid out so they didn't have to go to court.
Not surprising. Plz God, stop making stupid people, PLZ!
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:37 PM   #12
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How do you get run over by a train and survive???
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:37 PM   #13
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No, because they're not legal residents.
damnit....
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How do you get run over by a train and survive???
That was my first question....
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Also, you bought a house really close to train tracks. What did you expect?
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:38 PM   #16
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Eventually, all these stupid ****ers will Darwinize themselves and there won't be anyone there to sue normal people...
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Every lawyer in town is going to want a slice of this.
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These kids are on the right track in life.

That sure gets me full of steam.

They should learn to conduct themselves more appropriately.
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Every lawyer in town is going to want a slice of this.
I know if I was a lawyer I would want a piece of the action.
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:41 PM   #20
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How do you get run over by a train and survive???

Actually she was trapped UNDER the train for about an hour and a half. They had to use these giant airbags to lift the train and get her out.
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These kids are on the right track in life.

That sure gets me full of steam.

They should learn to conduct themselves more appropriately.
sorry to derail your train of thoughts, but this is completely inapropriate!
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Actually she was trapped UNDER the train for about an hour and a half. They had to use these giant airbags to lift the train and get her out.
Unless the train was going 2mph at the time, how do you get rolled under a train and live?
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Also, you bought a house really close to train tracks. What did you expect?
My house is about 1/2 mile from there but there are houses that are really close.

I'm no tin the area that is trying to collect the "quite zone" fund. I can barely hear the trains.

I'm just wondering since this issue is bound to come up.
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Unless the train was going 2mph at the time, how do you get rolled under a train and live?
This probably screwed up traffic even worse on Rt. 59, eh? That must have really sucked.
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Unless the train was going 2mph at the time, how do you get rolled under a train and live?
Maybe if you were between the tracks and the train passed over...there's enough hoses and whatnot to maybe drag you along without completely smashing you. Of course, that would be a pretty idiotic way to commit suicide when you can put your neck on the rail.

When I was a kid and a bigger idiot than I am now we had a lumber business with a railside...I always used to fantasize about laying in the middle of the tracks while a train passed over. Maybe fantasize is too strong a word, but you get the idea. Never had the balls, though, which was a good thing.
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