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Old 01-04-2002, 04:41 PM   #1
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anyone know if the current legacy comes with these performance arms?

http://www.lumine.net/subaru/legacyb.../perf_arm.html

if not, the part #'s do come up in the subaruparts.com site as orderable items and might be worth a try..

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Old 01-04-2002, 06:56 PM   #2
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20540AE090 Brkt Cp Arm R Lh $18.39
20157AE060 Supp Sd Frm F Lh $24.50
20540AE080 Brkt Cp Arm R Rh $18.39
20157AE050 Supp Sd Frm F Rh $24.50

I just key these part# in and get the price from www.subaruparts.com.

Just need to call them and asking for the correct bolts.
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Old 01-05-2002, 11:28 AM   #3
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I will definitely be checking into this on Monday! I don't know about the bolts. It looks like you will be using some of the bolts over again and I will try to locate the bolts and nuts to do the job.

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Old 01-05-2002, 12:00 PM   #4
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I will buy if you can get them.
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Old 01-05-2002, 01:18 PM   #5
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hiho, these parts are designed for the current generation legacy. i doubt they'd fit ours.
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Old 01-05-2002, 02:35 PM   #6
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Yeah my friend just bought A MY01 GT He is going after the handling first.
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Old 01-06-2002, 01:23 AM   #7
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Just do a few *spirited* runs through some twisties before and after - the difference is pretty amusng, and really comes out when you are 4 up with grippy tyres and using some serious *inputs* - on private property of course .

All the parts one should need for the mod are listed and shown on legacyb4's page.

Just in case ther are some differences between the JDM and US models (and there are none AFAIK), why not use the pics to reference under your own car to make sure everything is the same.

Enjoy!
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Old 01-06-2002, 10:17 AM   #8
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Scott I'll be down to get a set! I'll see you when I'm in for the A/C work. jim
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Old 01-07-2002, 09:19 AM   #9
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These are pretty interesting... they are a brace for the forward trailing arm bracket? I'm curious to ask as to how significant the difference was.

Oh... GROUP BUY!!!! I'm in!

EDIT: After reading anotherB4's post, the components do look Identical to the US BEs... I'd bet money these would work...
Where do we sign up to get these??

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Old 01-07-2002, 10:03 AM   #10
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mike, they're standard subaru parts that come on the latest version of the jdm legacy. the part numbers plug into the subaruparts.com site, and look like they can be ordered through us part counters.
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Old 01-07-2002, 11:11 AM   #11
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Here is the PM I got from Scott yesterday:

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there is only one set left in the US. I will order it now and have it on Thursday next week.
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Old 01-14-2002, 11:01 AM   #12
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Up... any more details?
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Old 01-20-2002, 10:41 AM   #13
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I had a chance last night to install the updated mounts. Jeff said 1.5 hours, there must have been two of them. I did mine on jack stands not a lift. I took me about two hours with air tools and lots of pry bars. Today I need to go out and locate the two 14mmx1.5 bolts so I can bolt in the braces that tie the forward controll arm mount to the diff mount. I'll have some driving reveiws later today. jim
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Old 01-22-2002, 10:56 AM   #14
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The cars we had done (yes, 3 of us did them at the same time - with a 4th a little later) were done on lifts by Subaru techs with all the tools you could ever wish for.

By my car the time was more like 1 hour for both sides Practice helps it seems

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Old 01-22-2002, 08:57 PM   #15
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Haven't had any time to drive my car since the install. Just drove down to the local dealer Tacoma Subaru (subaruparts.com) Monday morning for some A/C warranty work. BUT! they forgot to order an o-ring then today they tell me the evaporator they ordered was miss boxed. HA! So maybe after three days they will get it back to me. The car did have a different feel maybe a bit more soild over rougher streets, so I have to wait for the twistys later.


B4 I need some help! Any way of getting Subaru part numbers for the Bilstein struts and shocks that fit a 2k GT-B wagon. Scott at subaruparts.com said we can try if we have numbers. Or maybe a dealer over there I could buy some from. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jim
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Old 02-04-2002, 10:41 AM   #16
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Bump,

Any news on the Arms? or the Blistens?

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Old 02-04-2002, 11:10 AM   #17
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I haven't driven the Subaru that much yet. Still too pi$$ed at the dealer and too much gravel on the roads do to ice. I will say that it worth the cost and effort to put the brakets and braces in. It just feels solid, even with the mushy snow tires. jim
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Old 03-21-2002, 08:34 PM   #18
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I haven't driven the Subaru that much yet. Still too pi$$ed at the dealer and too much gravel on the roads do to ice. I will say that it worth the cost and effort to put the brakets and braces in. It just feels solid, even with the mushy snow tires. jim
Just wondering if you ever had a chance to test the arms out?

Is it worth the $ and energy?
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Old 03-21-2002, 11:36 PM   #19
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How the hell did I miss this thread?


Jim, what was the total cost, and were any extra parts needed?

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Old 03-22-2002, 12:12 AM   #20
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Yes, the cost and effort was worth it. Just two extra bolts 14x1.5x25 are needed. I can feel a change, a somewhat more soild ride. Maybe a bit Teutonic. Still have the snows on so haven't pushed it too hard.

Monday I hope to have the front lower controll arm/sub frame brace in, and put the summer tires back on. I also boxed the rear lower controll arms. So we'll see if all this helps. I feel like a Subaru Orthodontist with all this bracing. jim

Cost was about $100.00
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Old 03-23-2002, 07:46 AM   #21
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Wink They even work on a track

Yeah, they work - keep things feeling a lot more solid and controllable. The 'ole adage about you can never have too much rigidity lives on...and on...

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Old 03-23-2002, 10:24 AM   #22
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AnotherB4? How about some help for us North American Legacy owners. We need to find some shocks for the 2k on Legacys. Any shops you can put us in touch with? I would like to purchace a set of Bilstiens from a B4 wagon. Tora is also looking for a new set up. thanks jim
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Old 04-26-2002, 07:50 PM   #23
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Finally got these arms installed on my Legacy.

I could feel the difference soon after I drive it. The back end of the car feels more "one piece". After some hard cornoring, I can tell there is a significant improvement. Car would respond faster to throttle input. Before the arms were installed, I could induce slight over steer by heavy throttle. Now, with the arms installed, the over steer comes even quicker, more controlable w/ lighter throttle.

Overall, I give it a 10/10 for it's price and performance value.
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Old 04-27-2002, 10:26 AM   #24
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Have a Nice Day? oooooooops

Sorry I missed your post, Jim

Y2k model suspesion components are pretty easy to come by, but not in the cheap basket.

Personally I like the Prova set up - great body control, good comfort compromise (and a bit of adjustability - but not too much that you can get yourself in trouble and end up having to re-do everything).

Cheaper options are out there, like the Cusco sets that seem to sell for a bit less.

Try Accurit - he has good contacts here and should be able to help.

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Old 04-28-2002, 12:47 AM   #25
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Just back online after week absence -

http://www.apexjapan.com/sti_catalog/legacy_3.html

has the STI bilstein part no's. They *are* going to be pricey, and I don't recommend them anyways, if you are pulling your suspension apart that much. Aftermarket tends to be better - not in the "hard as a rock" way, but in actual refinement, and it also tends to be cheaper. A spring setup in a Tommy Kaira-ed B4 was an eye opener, literally a smoother ride along with better cornering.

On the affect of the rear performance arms. One of the things it does is keep the rear tyres from toeing *forward* under load. We found that out when we put overlarge tyres on a B4 here for a tyre test, and they were rubbing on the *front* of the rear inner fender. They literally move forward 1-2 inches. The performance arms lessen this tendency considerably. This keeps the rear toe-in on cornering down quite a bit, which helps the handling immensely.

Over and out,

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