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Old 01-27-2003, 03:57 PM   #101
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WRX sedan with 32,500 miles; it has a build date of June 2001.

I have just begun noticing the fuel smell and can only assume the problem is exasberated by really cold weather since it has not happen when the temperature is above 0 degrees F. In the past 2 weeks, it has occured 5 or 6 times.

My wife and I initially thought it was my SPT muffler but that's been on for several months now without incident. I was somewhat relieved to find this thread and realize I am not alone.

Anyway, my car is going in for its 30k service tomorrow and I'm going to mention it to the dealer.

I'll report back if it occurs again post dealer visit.

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Old 01-27-2003, 05:04 PM   #102
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Well, I got my car back. They had it for a week. Every day the same story...waiting for parts.....waiting for parts.......waiting for parts.

After 5 days when they finally called me to tell me it was ready, I asked them what they replaced- they said "Nothing, we just tightened up a clamp."

I still have not gotten a satisfactory excuse from them. Maybe they thought parts would never arrive, and jsut tightened the3 existing one. My car has 38k on the odo, and was built March '01.

I paid in full for the repair, no warantee coverage. (Of course, I *do* have a roll bar in the car )

The invoice says:

" DELIVERY HOSE WAS LEAKING
DISSASSBLED LOWER PRESSURE INTAKE TUBE AND ROTATED AND TIGHTENED FUEL CLAMP RECHECKED NO LEAKS"
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Old 01-27-2003, 09:16 PM   #103
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Well, I got my car back. They had it for a week. Every day the same story...waiting for parts.....waiting for parts.......waiting for parts.

After 5 days when they finally called me to tell me it was ready, I asked them what they replaced- they said "Nothing, we just tightened up a clamp."

I still have not gotten a satisfactory excuse from them. Maybe they thought parts would never arrive, and jsut tightened the3 existing one. My car has 38k on the odo, and was built March '01.

I paid in full for the repair, no warantee coverage. (Of course, I *do* have a roll bar in the car )

The invoice says:

" DELIVERY HOSE WAS LEAKING
DISSASSBLED LOWER PRESSURE INTAKE TUBE AND ROTATED AND TIGHTENED FUEL CLAMP RECHECKED NO LEAKS"
Funny, everyone elses was covered by warranty, regardless of mileage (or rollcages). I don't know what they charged you but it would probably be worth a 800 call (or email) to SOA. This should be covered by waranty IMO.

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Old 01-28-2003, 09:21 AM   #104
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Default This is what caused my gas smell

I have the same gas smell as everybody else but a different problem.

I just received a call from the dealership. The Fuel return pipe is cracked and needs to be replaced. The parts are $100 and they won't be here until next Friday. I b*tched at him and told him there is no way I am payin for a rental car (Kia Rio) for a week. He didn't have much to say except I am sorry.

I called SOA and complained that I am not happy with the service at the dealership or performance of the car in cold weather. I told him that this should not happen on a newer car. He said he will have to review it which could take 48 hours. BULL*****. I am almost thinking of buying Domestic.

Just received a call back from SOA. They are thinking about covering the rental car because parts on on back order?? Wonder why that is.

So now I am getting the return pipe fixed for free and they are fixing my clutch shudder too. They are also paying for the rental car. I am happy with that. Just makes me mad. I get my car back this Friday.
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Old 01-28-2003, 01:12 PM   #105
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Might as well add me to the list. Im gonna check the clamps and hoses tonight but I do get a fuel smell when its really cold. I still cant believe that Subaru is gonna let this slip without a recall (even if its just a clamp that need tightening)

Well, maybe I'll let mine keep leaking and hopefully it blow me and my car up. My driveway will be filled with an STI in each color
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Old 01-29-2003, 07:33 AM   #106
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I will get with Subaru today, and have them read this thread. Maybe they are working on the problem.
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Old 01-29-2003, 10:02 AM   #107
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I will get with Subaru today, and have them read this thread. Maybe they are working on the problem.
Thank you. Keep us posted.

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Old 01-29-2003, 10:11 AM   #108
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Boy am I mad. After three days of being told the parts will be in tommorrow, I'm told today it will be 10 to 14 days before the fuel lines (prt#807707130) arrive. National backorder "can't wait to get back on the road again"

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Old 01-29-2003, 06:37 PM   #109
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Angry leak is fixed, tick keeps tocking

the leaking hoses were fixed under warranty
the noise was diagnosed as piston slap, but since tech said " it got quieter after a while" it wasnt worthy of fixing.. nice huh?
so im looking at options.. got any ideas.. anybody know about the lemon laws?? where to look to find out what my options are..
i still have tons of powertrain warranty. i spoke to one of our most reputable i-club mechanics/vendors, and he thinks it's piston slap and that it's subaru's tactic to drag their feet hoping you'll get discouraged or forget or let the warranty lapse, or wreck or sell.. but i guess every claim they dont pay on is more money in the big boss's pocket..
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Old 01-29-2003, 09:52 PM   #110
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WRX wagon,
29,843 miles,
mfg 3/01

Took it in for the 30K service today, and told the service tech about having the raw fuel smell last week when the car sat out in < 0 weather. He told me they checked the clamps and didn't find any loose but he did say he has heard that there may be a new fuel rail mod coming from Subaru, because they have had some leaks. If it comes out, there would be a recall notice. Anyone hear of this?

I think I'll check the clamps myself anyway.
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Old 01-29-2003, 10:18 PM   #111
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My car went in for its 30k mile service today as well. I mentioned the fuel smell to the service technician and he promptly turned around and said that it has been happening to all Subaru models.

I haven't had chance to read the invoice yet; I'm still in shock about the cost of the service - nearly $500.

Anyway, by all accounts, the problem has been fixed.

We'll see the next time temperatures drop to 0 degrees F again.

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Old 01-29-2003, 11:01 PM   #112
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Slightly off topic... 30K service on WRX
I didn't have them do the oil & filter change or the tire rotation. Did that myself. Had all the rest done:

Check hoses, belts, fluids $0.00
Under car inspection $3.50
Lube body hardware $8.50
Frt Brakes, clean, lube caliper $24.50
Rear brakes, same as front $24.50
Replace brake fluid & bleed $72.78
Repl air & fuel filters $81.48
Flush & refill cooling syst. $64.90
Service trans & frt diff $45.15
Service rear diff, repl. oil $22.12
4 wheel alignment $69.95
- 10% off coupon - $41.75
Wis Tax $20.66

TOTAL $ 396.29
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Old 01-30-2003, 02:30 PM   #113
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Anyone with an 03 have this problem? One day I remember smelling a fuel smell while driving, but haven't since and its been consistently cold here in MA for a while now. My car is going in on the 17th of Feb for other items, should I have them check this then?
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Old 01-30-2003, 05:46 PM   #114
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dealer serviced my car in one day, it goes much better. my car was warm and it was a tad warm out, and i still leaked so they really couldn't do anytihng to reject me. i now get more than 7 miles on an eigth tank
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Old 01-31-2003, 04:51 PM   #115
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Had the fuel smell diagnosed by my Subaru dealer.
It was determined that a fuel injector supply hose was bad.
The hose was replaced and I have not had any more fuel smells since.

The dealer said I am not the only one with this problem.
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Old 02-01-2003, 11:35 AM   #116
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Had the fuel smell diagnosed by my Subaru dealer.
It was determined that a fuel injector supply hose was bad.
The hose was replaced and I have not had any more fuel smells since.

The dealer said I am not the only one with this problem.
That is the fix, just got word from Subaru yesterday.
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Old 02-01-2003, 01:06 PM   #117
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Any info on why we can't get parts? 10-14 days National backorder?
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Old 02-03-2003, 07:53 PM   #118
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I'm also waiting for parts. They tell me they will replace both short rubber hoses in the area. And an intake manifold gasket since they have to remove it to get down there.

Supposedly, the parts should arrive 2/10. I'm hoping they do.

Oh well, at least this last round of over salted streets here in Detroit didn't punish the underbody of *my* car. But the damage has already been done...

Cant stand the wait or the salt,
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Old 02-03-2003, 08:10 PM   #119
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My parts arrived today. I think calling Subaru helped, asked them to make my car payment if my car was to be down for several weeks . Have you asked for a rental car. I've been told that helps too, they don't like spending 30 bucks a day.
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Old 02-08-2003, 12:20 AM   #120
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Over the last two days I started noticing a slight gas smell in the cabin when the car was warming up. It has been very cold here in Colorado the last few days (it was -18 farenheit this morning--good thing I have a garage!) and so I popped the hood to find out what was going on.

On my car the smell is definitely coming from the driver side fuel rail area. No visual signs of leaking. No fuel smell by the passenger side fuel lines at all. So, it sounds like maybe an injector hose is bad. Looks like I'll schedule a service appointment next week.

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Old 02-09-2003, 06:11 PM   #121
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ya know, i thought i had it sorted out last winter, with just tightening the clamps on the passenger side fuel lines.

but i guess we just have had too mild a winter so far.

now that we've had a cold snap, the smell is back.

having read thru this thread, i'll be making an appointment to try and get the fuel lines replaced.

i've got a few other warranty issues to get fixed (potential window actuator problem, and a faulty window switch in the rear driver's side door.). i just haven't had time to get it in to the dealer. especially since they will jerk me around about a loaner.

Subaru Gwinnett, do you have a copy of the response from Subaru that you could forward me? I'll PM you as well, since i'm not sure you'll be looking here...

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Old 02-10-2003, 02:06 PM   #122
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Stock. 0 - mods. Been having for the last 2 months. But it goes away after 10 minutes of driving. Could this be why my gas mileage dropped form 26 to 24 mpg? I took it in today to the dealer. They said they haven't heard about anyone having this problem down here. Is there any official communication from SOA I could show them?
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Old 02-10-2003, 02:49 PM   #123
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When its very cold and a cold car I get the gas smell. Popped the hood and also smelled it on the driver's side of the car.

I haven't called the dealer yet. ...hopping to fix that when/if I get my clutch shudder fixed or looked at.
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Old 02-10-2003, 05:21 PM   #124
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Thumbs down Fear the raw gas smell

Allthough I have smelled gas before, on 1-22-2003, had massive gas smell during warm up, to work and same for return trip. Next morning during engine warm-up (it's been real cold in New Hamshire for a long time now!) a flashlight in to passenger side of engine showed constant flow of gas on to the cylinder head, coming from a hose clamp or something. Had to tow it in to dealers, afraid of dying/gas fumes. Next day dealer said they confimed the leak and it's going to be at least week due to nonavailability of parts, they are paying for my rental.
It's 2-10-2003 and have not heard from them since. Also has loose steering column, and clutch chatter drives me nuts too. Sorry, but for this amount of cash, they should have used stainless flex fuel lines instead of rubber, something that could take the huge temperature variations that this engine is going to go through. Rallies don't usually last as long as real life situations. I smell a cover up, and it sounds like the only WRX owners who complain live in cold climates. All I know is that my dealership has recognized that there is a problem, that all fuel lines must be replaced, making it necessary to pull off the intake manifold to get at them (and just about everything else too). If anyone has worked on their motor, you know this is a pretty big job.
I have sent off a complaint letter to Subie of America, had to send in three parts (after calling customer service to ask how to send because it was so long). I'm so surprised, it's been about a week, and still no answer-if I asked about stock wheel offsets, the answer would be back the next day.
Is it going to take a serious explosion, injury or death before they acknowledge a problem? What gets me is this problem was being talked about on this website, back in 2001, when I was buying the car new! I just got around to looking, actually was suggested on the NHTSA website.
I think I now hate this car!

Build date is 04/2001

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Old 02-15-2003, 09:50 PM   #125
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Default Fuel leak

known causes/triggers Cold starts
smell's origin: engine around intake manifold.
date of mgf: May 02
mods to car: None

Started 3 weeks ago. Got worse recently (towed in) Took to Galles (Albq, NM) and they could not find source. Tightened everything. Cannot smell now, so they did some good.
Called Garcia Subaru (Albq) and John Day (Srv Mgr) was shown by another WRX cust where the leak was on his car. If it reoccurs, will take to them next time.

Will post new info.
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