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Old 01-06-2002, 02:29 PM   #1
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... running into problems with designations again... what is the difference between a bg5 gt and an gt-b? i always thought that the gt-b was the one with projector headlights, 17" wheels, twin turbos, etc., but i see the non-projector ones with smaller wheels also being listed as gt-b?

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Old 01-06-2002, 02:35 PM   #2
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also another question.... everyone says that a gt-b drivetrain will not work in a LHD legacy, but my friend who was in germany said he clearly saw a LHD bg5 legacy GT-B in action over there... what gives?

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Old 01-06-2002, 03:22 PM   #3
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AFAIK, the GT-B came with Bilstien suspension, the GT didn't. There may be other distinctions, but I don't know 'em. The projector headlights may have been introduced on later model GT-Bs only.

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Old 01-06-2002, 06:22 PM   #4
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I'm sure there are LHD TT setups, but most of the engines available are from Japanese sources. LHD GTBs would be rare indeed...
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Old 01-06-2002, 11:17 PM   #5
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GT-B's B designation came from the bilstein suspension setup. The GT has the engine as the GT-B, but only came in automatic form, no manual. Usually came with 16" rims instead of 17", and with smaller brakes under those 16" rims. However, it is possible to order the 17" rims as an option, pick them up used, etc. I have no idea about headlight changes, since afaik, all models of the legacy had nearly the same lighting in Japan.

There was no LHD GT-B twin turbo officially made. That doesn't prevent anybody from retrofitting a LHD legacy with the TT engine, suspension parts, or, literally, just a GT-B badge on the back. Sort of like all those Type R civics...

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Old 01-06-2002, 11:42 PM   #6
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Hi Ben ,

The GT-B only appeared after the Type B revision of the BG. However there was a *GT B-spec* before that - this was the sports version of the original (BG5A) BG Legacy wagons. The GT has always been the luxo/specced up car, but has had the turbo motor and many of the other features since day one.

GT B-spec (often passed off as a GT-B, but it ain't!!) has 16inch BBS rims as std, stiffer suspesion, sports interior and the 250ps TT engine. Another give-away is the front, as you note, the proj headlights do NOT appear on this model (although the 2.5NA 250T did have them), and also check the bumper - this model has a single projector fog unit. This is still a good car - but it is patently not a *GT-B*.

GT-B has special 17inch rims, projector head lights, turn-light/fog light unit in bumper, Bilstein struts, upgraded safety package, momo steering wheel, colour coded sill extensions etc., etc.

As for LHD GT-Bs, no one has said it is impossible, and I would love to see one - BUT anyone who has seen the engine bay of a TT would know that without major surgery the LHD would be a turbo short. The badges are sold in shops all over the place, and it is common to see the Bilstein stickers on all sorts of cars these days. If someone has done a full conversion, they deserve a medal and should be publicly lauded IMHO!!

Cheers (hope I got that all 100% correct - going from my bad memory is dangerous )
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Old 01-09-2002, 09:03 AM   #7
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Why would it be turbo short? I haven't been able to see the engine bay of a LHD, cuz I bought my legacy when I moved to Okinawa, Japan, so all i know is RHD. But I would like to bring it back to the states with me..
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it looks like the 2nd turbo would interfere with the steering mechanism of a lhd car. it could probably be moved somewhere else, but there's not a whole lot space in the bay and would mean longer piping and more lag.
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Hi Ben ,

The GT-B only appeared after the Type B revision of the BG. However there was a *GT B-spec* before that - this was the sports version of the original (BG5A) BG Legacy wagons. The GT has always been the luxo/specced up car, but has had the turbo motor and many of the other features since day one.

GT B-spec (often passed off as a GT-B, but it ain't!!) has 16inch BBS rims as std, stiffer suspesion, sports interior and the 250ps TT engine. Another give-away is the front, as you note, the proj headlights do NOT appear on this model (although the 2.5NA 250T did have them), and also check the bumper - this model has a single projector fog unit. This is still a good car - but it is patently not a *GT-B*.

GT-B has special 17inch rims, projector head lights, turn-light/fog light unit in bumper, Bilstein struts, upgraded safety package, momo steering wheel, colour coded sill extensions etc., etc.

As for LHD GT-Bs, no one has said it is impossible, and I would love to see one - BUT anyone who has seen the engine bay of a TT would know that without major surgery the LHD would be a turbo short. The badges are sold in shops all over the place, and it is common to see the Bilstein stickers on all sorts of cars these days. If someone has done a full conversion, they deserve a medal and should be publicly lauded IMHO!!

Cheers (hope I got that all 100% correct - going from my bad memory is dangerous )
my confusion is further compounded by the bd 4-door, which has all of the bg gt-b specs, but is only labeled gt?

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Old 01-09-2002, 10:14 AM   #10
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Hi Ben,

The premium sports version of the BD was the "RS" - a name common to non-Bilstein suspended/250ps cars, and the later Bilstein/280ps/17" wheel generation cars.

Arguably the later version was the pick of the bunch, with a thicker rear ARB (swaybar) than the GT-B and proper steel ARB endlinks (the wagon had the same plastic ones as the Imprezas, and yes - I did change the ARB and links on my wagon ).

GT BDs were the luxo spec version turbo sedan, just like the in the wagons.

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