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Old 08-13-2007, 07:25 PM   #1
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Default I cant find this paint/clear coat.

ok so heres the story im loking to turn my 07 obp sti in to something similar to this color black found on this classic in the link http://www.carizzmacolors.com/news.php
iwas going to wait a year but i got egged last night pretty bad



ive called basf and emailed them as well and ive had no luck finding the info. is this product on the shelves yet? thanks for any advice you can give me.
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:43 PM   #2
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its called "hot rod black" i have a link hold on...
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:44 PM   #3
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:20 PM   #4
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BASF Carizma paint line... Made by RM. The "flattening agent" is actually in the clear itself. You basically lay down your black basecoat, then when you go to clear you mix in the RM "flattening agent" with the clearcoat. I belive you mix the flat agent with clearcoat 1:1... So with the clear which is RM5300 mixed with DH42 Hardner and any UR60 reducer, you will take all 3 of those and mix the clear 3:1. Then when you have your clear mixed up 3:1, you will take the "flattening agent" which is SM09 I belive? Anx mix 1 part clearcoat mixture, and 1 part SM09. Lay down 2-3 WET coats... It will take between 24-48 hrs to start dying back. Unless your going to bake it, then it should only take about an hour. Hope I was some help?
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:35 AM   #5
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thanks for the help dblurx4 and jimtweet

dblurx4 you seem to have specific knowledge of the application of this technique. its more or less costly then your average factory type paint job? also what kind of prep do you my car would need since its already black? thanks for the help much appreciated.

ps if you a know a shop that can do this without breaking a sweat let me know. im in so cal but arizona is not far.
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Old 08-14-2007, 03:20 AM   #6
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:07 AM   #7
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up to the top

if anyone can please shoot me some info on a shop that has done or can do or has even heard of this technique please shoot me a pm.
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:17 AM   #8
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i actually understood that since i use RM at work. it all depends on where you are, UR60 is a faster reducer, so unless its cold, i would reccomend ur50, it works fine in normal-moderate temperatures.
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:44 AM   #9
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please elaborate sir i have not idea about paint related topics.

im in southern california
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:33 AM   #10
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To be less specific that dblurx4, every manufacturer has what they call a flattening agent which is a product that you add to the clearcoat. The amount that you add will vary the flatness of the paint anywhere from semiglossy all the way to chalkboard looking flat black. Like it was said above, doing a flat paint job isn't any harder than doing a normal paint job. If anything I'd say that it's a little easier. You just spray down the base color then you clearcoat it like normal with flattened clear.

Don't let BASF's website trick you into thinking it's some special paint that only they carry. Every manufacturer has had flattening agent for ages. If you are going to get yours done in flat black don't pay extra because you are jumping on the bandwagon. Your car is already black and it's an 07, if I were a body shop I'd just quote you a price to scuff the whole thing and reclear it with flat clear. You probably wouldn't even be able to see the metallic with flat clear over it and it' would be cheaper.
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:41 AM   #11
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i actually understood that since i use RM at work. it all depends on where you are, UR60 is a faster reducer, so unless its cold, i would reccomend ur50, it works fine in normal-moderate temperatures.
He's talking about the reducer (paint thinner) that is used specifically with RM's stuff. Every type of paint/primer/clear from every manufacturer has a specific reducer that needs to be used in conjunction with it. Every manufacturer offers that reducer in different "temperatures" to match the temperature of the air. If it's cold, a liquid will evaporate slower so you need a reducer that is made to evaporate fast. If it's hot you need a reducer that evap's slow to give the paint time to dry correctly. They are sold in heat ranges like 50-60 degree 60-70 degree 70-80 and so on so you can spray it in different times of the season.

I'll say this again about paint since I no longer sell any certain brand. Most painters will get used to a specific brand and they'll consider that the best of the best and they won't want to use anything else. But the truth is that most of the big ones out there make really good products. I'd be more worried about the painter than I would be worried about the paint they are using.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:09 PM   #12
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anyone care to drop any names as far who might be able to do this well in the southern california area?
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Old 11-04-2007, 02:24 PM   #13
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yep, i understand paint etc, i do that at work

i use BASF RM line at work, and ive used sikkens, DuPont, PPG

i like sikkens, DuPont is alright, just spraying sealer for everything is a pain in the ass

PPG is absolute garbage IMO
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:00 PM   #14
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I always wanted to see a WRX in this paint. Post pics if you have them/ when you get it done.
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