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Old 08-14-2007, 11:40 AM   #1
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Default Who came up with the concept of "living in the lifestyle to which she is accustomed?"

With regards to divorce, why is it that this is legal? I mean, where else in life does something like this happen? When **** goes bad, there are consequences, so why would it be legally enforcable for someone to have to live at an elevated lifestyle, usually to the detriment of the other party?

Seems like a strange concept nowadays.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:41 AM   #2
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Yep. Pretty gay.
There is no spousal support in VA, though.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:42 AM   #3
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I think perhaps this could be reasonable if the husband is responsible for the failure of the marriage, and the wife could be entitled to a settlement that would give her............


Aww, f*** it. WAPCE!
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:44 AM   #4
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Don't you know, you always take big hit on a trade-in.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:54 AM   #5
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I think perhaps this could be reasonable if the husband is responsible for the failure of the marriage, and the wife could be entitled to a settlement that would give her............


Aww, f*** it. WAPCE!
By the same rationale, shouldn't anyone screwed out of their 401(k) by crooked executives be entitled to "living in the lifestyle to which they are accustomed?"

Hell, anyone who gets laid off isn't entitled to the same priviledge, why is it possible in marriage?
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:56 AM   #6
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Now I'm not saying he should've killed her, but I understand!
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:58 AM   #7
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Hell, anyone who gets laid off isn't entitled to the same priviledge, why is it possible in marriage?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that employment is vastly different than marriage. Just a thought.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:59 AM   #8
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that employment is vastly different than marriage. Just a thought.
True, but the implication is that for some reason, a major negative life event shouldn't benefit you just because of your gender.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:05 PM   #9
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In my sister's divorce (IBpicsdamnit), HE was entitled to the lifestyle created by her salary and hard work. He got the house she bought AND she had to cash out her 401k and hand half over to him. Major BS.

Not to hijack premise, carry on with WAPCE discussions.
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This is pretty much why if I ever do get married:

a) she'll have her own career and source of income comparable to my own.
b) we'll live in a reasonable manner that could be afforded seperately if we were single.
c) Find a reasonable girl and avoid a WAPCE altogether.

I had a) and b) with my last ex, but unfortunately she was very wapce. Made the breakup easy though.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:10 PM   #12
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In my sister's divorce (IBpicsdamnit), HE was entitled to the lifestyle created by her salary and hard work. He got the house she bought AND she had to cash out her 401k and hand half over to him. Major BS.

Not to hijack premise, carry on with WAPCE discussions.
I can understand the EQUITABLE division of property, it's the whole thing about having to maintain someone's lifestyle just because they were used to better things when they were married.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:13 PM   #13
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I can understand the EQUITABLE division of property, it's the whole thing about having to maintain someone's lifestyle just because they were used to better things when they were married.
Often times, if one spouse has a lot bigger earnings, the other will make career decisions that affect their earning.

If I've made an investment in the marriage, and passed up offers/promotions so that your career advances, I'm entitled to maintain some of the wealth generated by that career when you decide to upgrade.
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I can understand the EQUITABLE division of property, it's the whole thing about having to maintain someone's lifestyle just because they were used to better things when they were married.
Agreed 100%.

One of my good friends is getting completely screwed over by his ex-wife. He makes pretty good money, and she sits around on her ass all day doing nothing.

Courts awarded her a crapload percentage of his salary, since the amount is based on difference in income. He already has to pay child support, and only gets to see his two girls every other weekend.

Worst part of all of it - she cheated on him, and is already living with another guy.

Totally ridiculous if you ask me. He is left with barely enough money to live thanks to this silliness.
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I can understand the EQUITABLE division of property, it's the whole thing about having to maintain someone's lifestyle just because they were used to better things when they were married.
It's kind of strange to say it, but it's stuff like this that makes me glad i'm not rich. In my profession, huge salaries are not the norm. I make average money, but it's enough for me to live comfortably, with a few creature comforts, nice car, nice apartment, toys like big tv's, I budget, but I never have to worry about not having enough money to go to a movie or have dinner out. I'm satisfied with my place in life.

I'd be happy if I found another person who was in the same position as I am, I'd really like a financial partnership in my marriage rather than a dependency on one person's income.

Mo' Money, mo' problems, right?
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:24 PM   #16
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Often times, if one spouse has a lot bigger earnings, the other will make career decisions that affect their earning.

If I've made an investment in the marriage, and passed up offers/promotions so that your career advances, I'm entitled to maintain some of the wealth generated by that career when you decide to upgrade.
I agree.

We always hear these stories and they always seem ludicrous in print. But we're only getting half that story.
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True, but the implication is that for some reason, a major negative life event shouldn't benefit you just because of your gender.
I think it stems from a 50's idea of a man brining in all the money, and her staying at home.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:30 PM   #18
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Shut up you.
WAPCE
They don't accept our logic, talking nothing but love and emotion until they hook us. I refuse to accept their logic now.
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This is why you shouldn't get divorced.
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So do I, but I think that falls under the "equitable division of assets". I just don't understand why someone, of either gender should be entitled to living the high life after the marriage ends. I'm not saying someone should be put out in the street, but living some luxurious lifestyle is no guarantee.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:31 PM   #21
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Precisely!
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I'm gonna guess it came from when the woman wasn't allowed, or rarely did, work out of the house and still took care of the children.

Don't forget, though, this applies to men in situations of alimony, too.
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You know who came up with it? Some dumb bitch.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:36 PM   #24
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i think the idea behind it was, 50 years ago when women didnt work it would be unreasonable to put them out on the street with no income or job skills. So in that regard, i can see the rationale...but in today's society I would agree that it is a poor and antiquated law.
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Oh, and for the record, should I ever have to get divorced - I'm sticking to your mantra. No "lifestyle he's accustomed to." for my husband.

He'll go back to living in a one bedroom apartment eating pop-tarts and storing books in his stove.

(Rich, honey, you can blame these guys...)
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