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Old 08-14-2007, 10:22 PM   #1
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Default Element Tuning GT52 + TurboXS=403/386 on 93 Octane

I had my vehicle tuned yesterday evening at TurboXS. I would like to give a big thanks to Jermaine for a very smooth tune with excellent driveability. Thanks for your patience troubleshooting the small issues we had on the dyno and after. These numbers are on 20psi, 93 octane.



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Old 08-14-2007, 10:32 PM   #2
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Nice numbers, but just one question ? Why is ur gt52 hitting boost so late. I've a similar setup with a CATTED dp and i hit full 20.5psi by 3500 latest... and i have the stock headers.
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:37 PM   #3
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You also have a TMIC right? I am seeing target boost at 3900RPM or just before on the street. A dynochart doesn't accurately replicate spool as one would experience on the street under realworld load conditions. With that said, I have yet to take a look at any logs but I can get a definite answer for you in the near future.
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:53 PM   #4
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what did you use to paint your FMIC? Me thinks I will be following suit on mine
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:59 PM   #5
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Looks like rattle-can flat black enamel to me...at least, that's what I use.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:11 PM   #6
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what did you use to paint your FMIC? Me thinks I will be following suit on mine
It's not a good idea to paint or powdercoat a FMIC core. Paint retains heat so the intercooler becomes counterproductive. I had the core coated with Thermal Tech coatings. A shop here in VA did the work.
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:33 AM   #7
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From Garrett's website:

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...faqs.html#in14

"I want my car to remain a sleeper/stealth. Can I paint or anodize my intercooler so it is not easily visible?
Yes! It is not uncommon at all for an intercooler and endtanks to be anodized black to keep attention away from the car and help it maintain a sleeper appearance. A very light coat of paint on the core and endtanks is also another option, usually much cheaper and easier than anodizing, with a negligible performance loss. "

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Old 08-15-2007, 10:06 AM   #8
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Congrats man... I'm glad you finally went for and got tuned on the GT52... hopefully the emails and PM's helped your decision

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Old 08-15-2007, 10:32 AM   #9
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good stuff man
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:07 PM   #10
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It's not a good idea to paint or powdercoat a FMIC core. Paint retains heat so the intercooler becomes counterproductive...
Don't believe everything you read or hear - my I/C cools just like it did unpainted (we've measured the downstream pipe temps). And I don't even bother to take it off to touch it up - just tape off the bumper opening, dust it with a light coat, tear the tape off, good for another 6 months. 10 minutes, done.
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:22 PM   #11
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Congrats man... I'm glad you finally went for and got tuned on the GT52... hopefully the emails and PM's helped your decision

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just helped me make mine
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:08 AM   #12
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You also have a TMIC right? I am seeing target boost at 3900RPM or just before on the street. A dynochart doesn't accurately replicate spool as one would experience on the street under realworld load conditions. With that said, I have yet to take a look at any logs but I can get a definite answer for you in the near future.
Nopes, I switched out to an FMIC recently and dyno spool showed 20.5psi by 3500 rpm. Real world spool, data logged to 3350.
Something in ur setup could be choking the turbo.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:17 AM   #13
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The only thing i can think of is ur IC. You definitely have a more free flowing exhaust than i do.

I have an APS dr525. But common sense would suggest bigger ic = lag, but in case of the gt52, it flows way to much air for a smaller core to cool effectively. I saw this with a bigger tmic as well as an arc fmic. APS cores seem to suit this turbo just fine.

Another thought could be the Turbo inlet. I switched out to a samco as my stock one was collapsing. How strong is the BPM inlet ?

Your car is already a monster with that hp number, but if u could get the spool earlier, it would be a total killer.
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Old 08-16-2007, 08:36 AM   #14
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The only thing i can think of is ur IC. You definitely have a more free flowing exhaust than i do.

I have an APS dr525. But common sense would suggest bigger ic = lag, but in case of the gt52, it flows way to much air for a smaller core to cool effectively. I saw this with a bigger tmic as well as an arc fmic. APS cores seem to suit this turbo just fine.

Another thought could be the Turbo inlet. I switched out to a samco as my stock one was collapsing. How strong is the BPM inlet ?

Your car is already a monster with that hp number, but if u could get the spool earlier, it would be a total killer.
Ray what did you make with all your mods and your GT52?
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:49 PM   #15
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close to 400/400 is what i should be making rite now, need to go in for a bit of fine tuning.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:57 PM   #16
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close to 400/400 is what i should be making rite now, need to go in for a bit of fine tuning.
Whats the number the cars at now?
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:03 PM   #17
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that's an amazing big turbo upgrade
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:38 PM   #18
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looks great "clark kent" glad it all came together!
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:17 PM   #19
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Whats the number the cars at now?
Kinda difficult to tell actually. I made 350/360 on the dyno with the old exhaust @ 19.5-20psi, and with the new one the engine opened up a LOT. Roughly looking at a 50-60 whp gain with tuning.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:52 PM   #20
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I had my vehicle tuned yesterday evening at TurboXS. I would like to give a big thanks to Jermaine for a very smooth tune with excellent driveability. Thanks for your patience troubleshooting the small issues we had on the dyno and after. These numbers are on 20psi, 93 octane.



2006 STI

Element Tuning GT52
BPM Turbo Inlet
TurboXS UTEC
TurboXS Intake Kit
TurboXS FMIC
Perrin 816cc injectors
MadDad V2 Exhaust manifold w/uppipe
JIC Spartan DE Type 1 ST exhaust
Invidia V3 catless DP
ProDrive 3-Port Boost Control Solenoid
NGK One step colder plugs

I thought the UTEC only controlled WD? So how did you raise the boost? I know on my old setup with the UTEC when I had the WD ALL THE WAY up it never got passed 18psi.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:24 PM   #21
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havent you ever heard of a ebcs?electronic boost control solenoid? it is very accurate and convenient.tuning boost for each mapand switching to high /low by the map switch . makes the utec far superior than you think.
nice #'s by the way. when are you taking it to the track?

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Old 08-16-2007, 04:35 PM   #22
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Thanks! I plan on taking it to the track before too long but at the moment my priority is school...it starts next week.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:42 PM   #23
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:46 PM   #24
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AWESOME numbers, Marcus! I can't wait to get my GT52 in too

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Old 08-16-2007, 04:52 PM   #25
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Sweet! I love this turbo. I can't wait to go built 2.5L longblock and GT52.
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