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Old 08-16-2007, 04:18 PM   #1
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Default BE/BH rear shock options just got better!!!

Well, in my search for suspension options for my car, I turned to BE/BH legacies. since full coilovers for them work on EA82 Subarus, I figured other aftermarket options would work aswell. So, I bought a full takeoff set of BE suspension (both front struts, both rear shocks, all 4 springs, rear tophats, and front upper spring perches (but not top hats) from a member here to experiment with. I found that the differences were too many to make that work well.

I continued to search, and found Miata stuff looked very similar, so today a box arrived. all 4 shocks from a 1990 Miata, also takeoffs from an upgrade project.

Here's the set of 4 miata shocks, rears on the left, fronts on the right. the only difference is the length, all other dimensions (including spring length....notice the lower perch placement) are identical.


it looks like the Miata Fronts will work well for me.....but then I got to comparing the Miata Rears to the BE rears...and found this (Miata on left, BE on right):


there are 2 problems that one would encounter to put miata rears in a BE/BH. first, the lower mount. miata's use a 2mm narrower bolt. meaning that the metal sleeve in the bushing would have to be bored out that much.

and the threads on the top that go through the strut top are 4mm narrower (this pic is of the BE top on the miata shock):


but a clever man could come up with some sort of sleeve to snug that up.

the springs are the same diameter, although the lower mount on the miata doesn't have the notch for the coil:


and the overall length is about an inch shorter, so these would only work in a lowered situation.


pretty much any suspension option under the sun is available for a '90-'97 Miata. So if you can find subaru application fronts, you can probably find the same thing for the rear in the Miata world.


That said, since I need the fronts, anyone want to split a full set of AGXs?
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:48 PM   #2
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Wow that's a cool preject you got going there. I'm still skeptical though.
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Old 08-19-2007, 04:09 AM   #3
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I just finished installing them in my wagon. slightly different application, but I ran into the same upper mount problem. I had to remove the gigantic bushing in it, so the whole was still too big. 8 washers (4 on each side: 2 under the mount, 2 over) fixed that:
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:05 AM   #4
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Hmm...this is giving me an idea using a Ground control coilover kit for the rear of a miata to use on BE bilsteins...

I wonder if the WRX/Impreza gc coilovers can be used on the front of BE struts...
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:35 AM   #5
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Hi Guys- New Member here. Is anyone lifting Legacys at all? I would love to see mine an inch higher with some light truck tires.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:46 PM   #6
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Click the User CP button at the top of the page and fill in the specifics about your car and location so that we can help you better.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:22 PM   #7
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Thanks neighbor. I filled it in, but just in case I messed it up, I'm driving a 92 Legacy Wagon. 2.2 n/a, auto, awd. Where do I find the two letter designation you all use (be, bh, etc)?
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:41 PM   #8
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Thanks neighbor. I filled it in, but just in case I messed it up, I'm driving a 92 Legacy Wagon. 2.2 n/a, auto, awd. Where do I find the two letter designation you all use (be, bh, etc)?
Your 92 is a BC I think...it's the chassis code for your generation of Legacy.

I think you can get outback suspension from a newer car (the late 90's one, not my generation) or WRX suspension. They're heavier cars and tend to increase your ride height.

how much of a lift are you looking for?
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:18 PM   #9
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Edit: Trying to delete this post but can't find the delete button! Sorry.

Last edited by roscioli; 09-10-2007 at 10:21 PM. Reason: tried to delete post
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:19 PM   #10
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I was just hoping for 1" or 1 1/2". Not much.
I used to own an '02 WRX, and always wanted to lift that too. Come to think, I even had visions of lifting my '00 Si.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:11 PM   #11
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You can't delete posts, only edit.

So the point of this thread is that Miata springsw andf struts are similar to a BE/BH. I would think the weight difference between a Miata and a fat ass BE/BH would cause problems.
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