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Old 08-18-2007, 06:03 PM   #1
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:12 PM   #2
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What do stock WRXs dyno there?
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:13 PM   #3
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Sounds a bit low...I'd love to see your map...

Hows the car feel?
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:20 PM   #4
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What do stock WRXs dyno there?
I dont know.
Another guy with a similar setup put down 213whp.
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:23 PM   #5
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Sounds a bit low...I'd love to see your map...

Hows the car feel?
There is a slight bit of hesitation throughout the RPM range. Not enough to show lower numbers I don't think, but the tuner and I are working on it and it was there when I was running a AP so it is not MAP related.

Showing the map might not be possible, as its not "mine".

Also this is just a Stage 2 Base map, needs to be worked over. This is just a base dyno run so we have something to compare it to.
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:32 PM   #6
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I dont know.
Another guy with a similar setup put down 213whp.
Reason I asked, was those are REALLY low numbers. I put down 40 more whp than you at stage 2 on an average reading dyno.
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:36 PM   #7
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Reason I asked, was those are REALLY low numbers. I put down 40 more whp than you at stage 2 on an average reading dyno.
Yeah I was looking for 230whp based off of what my tuner said.
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:40 PM   #8
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Sean (master) Tuned mine too. I am happy with it.
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Old 08-18-2007, 10:22 PM   #9
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Its ok, you can post the map if you want. It is freely available on enginuity.org

From looking at the AFRs he reported it is running leaner now than when I put the basemap on there. I need to head out there and log his car, but when we flashed it the logs show perfect timing and MAF flow numbers about equal to the car the basemap was developed on.

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Old 08-18-2007, 10:38 PM   #10
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Its ok, you can post the map if you want. It is freely available on enginuity.org

From looking at the AFRs he reported it is running leaner now than when I put the basemap on there. I need to head out there and log his car, but when we flashed it the logs show perfect timing and MAF flow numbers about equal to the car the basemap was developed on.

Map is available here.
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Thanks Sean, I wasn't going to put it out there without your say so.I am not going to trust the tailpipe 02 sensor they used as 100% accurate, the .9 the AFR is off could be from it reading the air coming into the pipe but I will check for intake leaks as too. I PM'd you.
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Old 08-18-2007, 11:56 PM   #11
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Reason I asked, was those are REALLY low numbers. I put down 40 more whp than you at stage 2 on an average reading dyno.

244 on a base map stage II is NOT average in any way, shape, or form.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:36 AM   #12
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I put down 203awhp when I was stage 2 tuned by Dynocomp on a DynoDynamics dyno with Ecutek. Mine felt strong. Stock WRX's put out 160 or so there.
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Old 08-19-2007, 01:54 AM   #13
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244 on a base map stage II is NOT average in any way, shape, or form.
I put down 243.3hp and 240.0tq on a mustang dyno at only 14.5psi. This was at stage 2. Stock STI on the same dyno was 255 / 265 less than 10 minutes prior to my run. It was probably the same dyno as Vahnatai since I was in Dallas when it pulled those numbers.
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Old 08-19-2007, 04:05 AM   #14
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244 on a base map stage II is NOT average in any way, shape, or form.
Actually, 247 whp 245 ft lbs torque. It was on a correctly calibrated Mustang dyno. Though, it wasn't a base map. Stock STIs dyno'ed in the high 230s, at least from what I remember.
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Old 08-19-2007, 01:40 PM   #15
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hmmm this does seem kinda low... I have a stage 2 4eat .. (uppipe, downpipe, headers, colder plugs, drop in K & N and a good tune) And i was able to pull on my friend who has an all motor 215whp civic (lighter than me also)....
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:48 PM   #16
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Yeah. I agree. I am at stg 2 as well and I was told by the previous owner that it made 230 whp. I have turboxs turbo back exhaust, intake, utech. And stock 02 are about 170.
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:49 PM   #17
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hmmm this does seem kinda low... I have a stage 2 4eat .. (uppipe, downpipe, headers, colder plugs, drop in K & N and a good tune) And i was able to pull on my friend who has an all motor 215whp civic (lighter than me also)....
I have a friend that said with headers you get around 260whp.
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Old 08-19-2007, 10:37 PM   #18
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Added the dyno sheet
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Old 08-20-2007, 12:53 AM   #19
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I put down 243.3hp and 240.0tq on a mustang dyno at only 14.5psi. This was at stage 2. Stock STI on the same dyno was 255 / 265 less than 10 minutes prior to my run. It was probably the same dyno as Vahnatai since I was in Dallas when it pulled those numbers.
you texas guys love to spit out dyno numbers. you guys are all on 93 so its not the same. the difference between 91 and 93 is 15- 20 whp

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Old 08-20-2007, 02:10 AM   #20
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you texas guys love to spit out dyno numbers. you guys are all on 93 so its not the same. the difference between 91 and 93 is 15- 20 whp

hi sean
Just for you, same setup made 200hp / 210tq on a dyno dynamics dyno at Dynocomp in Phoenix on 91. Only mods difference between the two was Ecutek tuned in Phoenix and Unichip tuned in Dallas. The other 20hp was the altitude difference.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:21 AM   #21
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204 awhp seems just a tad bit lower than mine. i have catless downpipe, catback, k&n drop in filter, and an aps bov with the ecutek flash and dynotune @ dynocomp in phx. my car dyno'ed at 216hp with a little over 200 ft/tq. that 240 awhp sounds damn good!
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:39 AM   #22
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Just to put in my .02, my car put down exactly the same numbers on the same dyno the following day. I talked to Kito and Dominic who tunes for them and also tuned my car as well as some other guys and they said stock wrx's usually put down in the 160ish range on that dyno. I'm pretty happy with it for a road tune without and WB02. I'm still running a catted downpipe as well. I'll try to post up my graph later.
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:59 AM   #23
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Yeah, im with everyone else on the numbers seeming low but it was also on a MustangDyno which typically reads lower then a DynoJet or DynaPack.

What kind of weather were you having when you dynoed the car? Temp makes a big difference, the roomates STi, made near 40 whp more when it was about 15 or so degrees cooler outside
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:23 AM   #24
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Another Texas guy here about to spew some dyno numbers. I have a TurboXS uppipe, and full catback with 1 racing cat in the midpipe. K&N airfilter and unichip and made 228/231 on a Mustang dyno. If the difference is 15-20 hp/tq for 93 octane then let's meet in the middle and say 17. So you should be around 211/214 hp/tq. This was running around 15 psi with no other mods. It does sound a bit low, but all cars put out slightly different numbers. Just for refence I gained 61 hp over my stock (baseline). I went from 167 to 228 hp with full catback, uppipe, EM, and air filter. Look at your stock gains to really see how well you're doing, adjusting for percentages obviously. So I gained roughly 36.5% versus stock. Take your stock hp numbers and see what percentage you increased, and you should be within 5% of my gains or anyone else here with the same mods.

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Old 08-20-2007, 11:25 AM   #25
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I also got my car tested there this weekend. I have a 03 wrx opensource tuned, vf30, sti pinks, walbro fp, ssautochrome tmic and catless exhaust. At first I had cobb 2.5 map and now with the opensource tune I felt a pretty good increase in power. And I only managed to pull a 232 hp on that dyno. Back to the drawing board for more power
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