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Old 08-22-2007, 02:08 AM   #1
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Default Need legal help with tax fraud

I recently left my employer on ok terms.
But I know about alot of illegal tax related stuff they are involved in and I wanna know if I dont say anything about it and they get busted can I get in trouble for knowing about it and not saying anything about it.
Heres an example. There were a couple of drug dealers who were VERY big customers of ours. (custom audio shop) If there bills were over 10000.00 they would split the bills up and allow the drug dealers to pay in 2 installments so the 10,000.00 transaction wouldnt throw up any red flags with the IRS. Well these drug dealers recently went down and the feds found over 3mill in cash in there home as well as hundreds of thousands worth of drugs. Now being as that my employer made me bend rules to protect these known criminals does that make me an accessory. A lot of the guys there are friends of mine and Im not trying to blow the whistle on them but I gotta look out for myself.....So I guess my question is-Should I go forward about it or not. Sorry for the long read I know that the all knowing OT can help.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:10 AM   #2
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Hector, eh? Do you overnight parts from Japan? Do you refer to money as 'feria'? Do you know a local street racer named Brian?











































On a serious note... I got nada.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:14 AM   #3
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Hector, eh? Do you overnight parts from Japan? Do you refer to money as 'feria'? Do you know a local street racer named Brian?











































On a serious note... I got nada.
Believe it or not that stupid movie is what gave me this nickname. Everyone thinks Im mexican cause I get dark in the summer and at the time when the movie came out I had a copper colored hatchback car so the name just stuck like glue.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:21 AM   #4
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buy lots of guns and move to the hills
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:22 AM   #5
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buy lots of guns and move to the hills
I live in West Virginia so I already have both of those covered....now what
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:23 AM   #6
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I live in West Virginia so I already have both of those covered....now what
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:26 AM   #7
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You're an idiot for not bowing out when you were "made" to do those things. I don't know, is "my boss made me do it or I'd be fired" that great of an argument for someone that works at an audio shop?
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:32 AM   #8
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You're an idiot for not bowing out when you were "made" to do those things. I don't know, is "my boss made me do it or I'd be fired" that great of an argument for someone that works at an audio shop?
Well to be honest I never did any actuall billing but I did know it was going on so I might as well have. And as for loosing your job....I dont care what you do for a living the thought of losing your job is scary...even if it is only like 40k a year building speaker boxes and installing remote starts.My wife is an opthomologist so she makes enough money to allow me to have a "fun" job.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:53 AM   #9
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Contact a lawyer...
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:56 AM   #10
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If you didn't do the billing or installing then how cold you have possibly known :O
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:58 AM   #11
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If you didn't do the billing or installing then how cold you have possibly known :O
yea? how could he?

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I recently left my employer on ok terms.
But I know about alot of illegal tax related stuff they are involved in and I wanna know if I dont say anything about it and they get busted can I get in trouble for knowing about it and not saying anything about it.
Heres an example. There were a couple of drug dealers who were VERY big customers of ours. (custom audio shop) If there bills were over 10000.00 they would split the bills up and allow the drug dealers to pay in 2 installments so the 10,000.00 transaction wouldnt throw up any red flags with the IRS. Well these drug dealers recently went down and the feds found over 3mill in cash in there home as well as hundreds of thousands worth of drugs. Now being as that my employer made me bend rules to protect these known criminals does that make me an accessory. A lot of the guys there are friends of mine and Im not trying to blow the whistle on them but I gotta look out for myself.....So I guess my question is-Should I go forward about it or not. Sorry for the long read I know that the all knowing OT can help.
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:11 AM   #12
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It is not illegal to break up payments into smaller portions.
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:28 AM   #13
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contact a lawyer

stop incriminating your self on public forums

your employer never "made" you do anything, you did it willingly and 100% under your own volition.

if you deal with scum, be prepared to pay the price.
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:43 AM   #14
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It is not illegal to break up payments into smaller portions.
but is illegal to knowingly bypass the IRS tax code. the way it's written even suspiciously close payment in cash is enough to warrant a red flag. like putting $9,992 down in cash on a new car.
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:43 AM   #15
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I'm not sure you should have posted this.

You don't work there anymore so don't sweat it.
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:48 AM   #16
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but is illegal to knowingly bypass the IRS tax code. the way it's written even suspiciously close payment in cash is enough to warrant a red flag. like putting $9,992 down in cash on a new car.
yep.

here is a super cool trick i learned in my short 29 years of life:

don't deal with crooks.




that way if you do save up 10k and put it on a car, you got nothing to hide.
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Old 08-22-2007, 04:18 AM   #17
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that way if you do save up 10k and put it on a car, you got nothing to hide.

The neat thing is.... they don't care how much you put down if you write a check.
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Old 08-22-2007, 04:30 AM   #18
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The neat thing is.... they don't care how much you put down if you write a check.
funny how all that works eh?
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:32 AM   #19
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OMG.....I can't believe you are worrying over this. You obviously have no idea how badly most small business owners bend the tax rules on a regular basis.

And the IRS is even too busy to go after those folks unless they do some *really* questionable things.

Stuff like not paying payroll taxes for your 30 subcontractors, taking thousands in barter from other businesses but still not reporting it as income, taking trips out of town on a regular basis for leisure and recording the costs as "business" expenses, etc.

The abuse goes on and on.

Didn't you see the recent reports about hedge fund managers? Literally billions of dollars in taxes from millionaires not getting collected due to some ridiculously abused loophole. Those guys are earning near 7-figure salaries and pay less in taxes than a single mom earning a mere $40k per year.

I'd say you are fine.
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:31 AM   #20
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Pretty sure that $10k cash transaction reporting rule only applies to banks, not regular businesses. I don't think you have anything to worry about. Frankly, trying to turn away the business of the drug dealers is probably more dangerous than just taking their business.
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:47 AM   #21
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****ing meth dealers in southern WV. I hope the die in a fire. I hope they still lynch people down there.
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:08 AM   #22
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Sounds like a great but dangerous oportunity for black mail.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:57 PM   #23
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Yeah...black mail. If you want to jeopardize your family to do that, then there is a decision making problem that needs to be handled first. I say turn the cheek. If these folks you are "dealing" with are indeed gang bangers with 3mil in there house...they are made, and have a pretty reknown ranking. They don't let even the chiefs handle that amount of ****...so keep your nose out of it for your ole lady and kid if you have one. You may or may not know what these guys are capable of, but I do first hand. They don't accept stool pigeons as humans and won't think twice about burning your crib down.
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:03 PM   #24
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Do you work at that yellow audio place on Rt 1...
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Old 09-03-2007, 02:14 PM   #25
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I'm not an expert, but if you weren't directly involved with any of the possibly illegal activity, then I don't think you have much to worry about. Why would they bother even coming after you? Can they prove that you knew the customers were drug dealers? Can it be proven that you knew about any illegal activities your boss was partaking in?

If anything they'd probably want you to give witness testimony, I doubt they'd want to prosecute you... unless you are more involved than you lead OT to believe. You don't have a harpoon gun in yore Civic, do you????
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