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Old 08-26-2007, 10:39 PM   #1
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I'm going to my first track day at the end of next month . I was just wondering if any of you experianced track dayers have any tips for a noob. Stuff like what to bring, what to expect, etc. Thanks for any advice.
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Old 08-26-2007, 10:47 PM   #2
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1. Brakes
2. Brakes
3. Brakes
4. Brakes
5. Brake Fluid
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Old 08-26-2007, 10:49 PM   #3
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After over 20 years of going to the track, the one thing I always put a note on the table to bring.........

cooler full of cold soda.




Be sure your car is mechanically checked out.
wear long shirt and pants
Put your helmet in the car 2 days before so as not to forget it (it's about the only thing you can't do without....besides the soda)
Find your instructor as soon as you are tech'ed and talk with him

Listen and do what the instructor tells you on the track and you'll learn quicker. Get a ride with him in his run group and let him drive the first 3 laps of your session to learn the line and for him to check out your car.

Relax and have fun. You'll have a lot to take in as a newbie, but learn the most important stuff first. Flag station location, turn in/apex/out spots, braking points. Look ahead....not just in front of you. You can place your car by looking ahead, but you'll get to that.

Anything that you don't understand or want to work on specifically, let your instructor know.

If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask them here. A bunch of us here are instructors and are happy to help new students just about anytime.

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Old 08-26-2007, 11:17 PM   #4
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Thanks for the info so far. I'm not too worried about my brakes. I have two sets of pads I run, one for the street and one for pure abuse. The fronts are Wilwood 4 pots w/ WRX rotors from RacingBrake and the rears are the RacingBrake stock caliper big brake kit. The pads I will be running are a Wilwood compound made for short track racing. I'm thinking of making a brake ducting kit before the track day also. Anybody else have any more input, keep it coming people.
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Thanks for the info so far. I'm not too worried about my brakes. I have two sets of pads I run, one for the street and one for pure abuse. The fronts are Wilwood 4 pots w/ WRX rotors from RacingBrake and the rears are the RacingBrake stock caliper big brake kit. The pads I will be running are a Wilwood compound made for short track racing. I'm thinking of making a brake ducting kit before the track day also. Anybody else have any more input, keep it coming people.
Mechanically speaking, as long as you have the brakes covered, you'll have fun no matter what else is "lacking" (lower power, suspension, etc. etc.). Brakes, or lack thereof can ruin a day/weekend pretty quickly. If you're on stock N/A power, don't sweat the ducts. But if you want, 3" ducting and some rubber couplers + sheet aluminum can make a damn good Home-Depot ducting setup for about $25 and an hours worth of fiddling.

Besides that, follow Jack's advice. Worry about keeping yourself in good shape. Sleep, food, water. You'll pay more attention, be less stressed, and enjoy the day more.

Also, try and do as much work on the car as possible before you leave. Free up your time trackside to relax, watch, enjoy the atmosphere.

Keep your eyes looking forward, keep an eye on your mirrrors (!), be patient, focus on your line and braking points, in slow/out fast, AND HAVE FUN!
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:41 PM   #6
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Mechanically speaking, as long as you have the brakes covered, you'll have fun no matter what else is "lacking" (lower power, suspension, etc. etc.). Brakes, or lack thereof can ruin a day/weekend pretty quickly. If you're on stock N/A power, don't sweat the ducts. But if you want, 3" ducting and some rubber couplers + sheet aluminum can make a damn good Home-Depot ducting setup for about $25 and an hours worth of fiddling.
That's what I was going to do, get a Home Depot brake duct kit, but maybe not. The only place the car is really lacking is in the power department. Stock 2.5 SOHC with no mods what so ever except a COBB catback. The suspension is pretty well sorted; coilovers, 22mm FSB, Adjustable RSB, endlinks all around, steering rack bushings, a lot of bracing, RT-615's w/ 17" BBS's. I do have some auto-x experience, but no tracking under my belt. Look foward to it should be fun.
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That's what I was going to do, get a Home Depot brake duct kit, but maybe not. The only place the car is really lacking is in the power department. Stock 2.5 SOHC with no mods what so ever except a COBB catback. The suspension is pretty well sorted; coilovers, 22mm FSB, Adjustable RSB, endlinks all around, steering rack bushings, a lot of bracing, RT-615's w/ 17" BBS's. I do have some auto-x experience, but no tracking under my belt. Look foward to it should be fun.

A tip on the 615's. They will grease up a little when they get hot. Just keep that in mind. You'll feel it after a half-dozen laps or so, depending on the track. Don't lean on them too hard for too long and they recover just fine.
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This website has good tips for beginners and a tech check sheet.

http://www.speedventures.com
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Old 08-27-2007, 08:23 AM   #9
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yea, definitely keep yourself hydrated throughout the day. Also, some people when they get on the track for the first time are a bit timid, and some go all out. I was the latter So my advice would be take it easy for the first session, don't worry about getting passed and just learn the line and the braking points. Once you start to learn the line, hitting the apex, getting braking point you can start to go faster.

also this link has a lot of great info

http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Safet...rack#Harnesses
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if you have any doubts that your car cannot handle 30 minutes on the track full out then upgrade what you need to. Most people will only drive their cars really hard for a minute or so.

for my last track day in the 90 degree heat i had toyo RA1s on the car and had no tire issues.

fresh brake pads (hawk hp+), lines and fluid will make your day less scary

cooling system flush will keep you cool, and if you are tuned on the aggressive side a little race gas keeps the pings away.

dont try to win, just have fun

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Old 08-27-2007, 01:53 PM   #11
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Thanks for the tips everyone.

Good to know on the 615's. I thought I'd give 'em a try. I wanted a good everyday summer tire, but if I get more involved in this track day stuff I'll probably get a dedicated set of wheels and tires.
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Pass a Porsche or two, it'll make people look at your car funny.
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Ah, an autocrosser.

I have found personally that autocrossers make the best students. You should already understand a lot of car control characteristics and understand how to rotate the car and most importantly, how to recover from the car starting to over rotate. I shared my car with KC last year for one event and by the end of the day, he was taking 2a/2b at NHIS better than I do.

You have PLENTY of power. I ran a 2001 2.5RS for a couple of years and looking back, it was almost the best track car I ever had (only my E30 M3 was better). Nice balance, ability to push it to rotate or understeer, your brake upgrade will work fine with the car.

And although it was meant as a joke (virrdog), with enough experience, you'll be passing or hanging with Carreras. I did exactly that with my CRX at NHIS last week, playing with a Carrera 997 S.

Have fun!

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And although it was meant as a joke (virrdog), with enough experience, you'll be passing or hanging with Carreras. I did exactly that with my CRX at NHIS last week, playing with a Carrera 997 S.
Completely NOT a joke. I passed a 997 non-turbo with my 160 hp BC Turbo Legacy. Had a guy crawling under my car after the session to see what's up!

So, like I said, pass some Porsches!!
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Check to make sure you have plenty of life on your pads/rotors, and that they're in good shape. A brake flush is basically a must before heading out. You should be getting a tech inspection anyway depending on which club you are running with, so the shop doing the inspection should be going over things with you.

Also be sure to bring a torque wrench, tire pressure gauge, and two quarts of extra oil. Check tire pressures when you come in and torque lug nuts before going out each session. Drink water constantly and keep yourself well hydrated. Even if you're not that thirsty, just down some water; it will make a big difference come fourth or fifth session in the heat. By the time you feel thirsty, it is too late. And watch how much gas you have.

Good luck! Track days are extremely fun and you will have a great time.
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