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Old 09-15-2007, 09:42 PM   #76
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well, got the 6-spd in today with a few set backs. I realized that the drivetrain that was shipped to me (was a nightmare getting the seller to hold up to what he agreed to; once again nasioc private seller) didn't include the tranny crossmember, as agreed. So, I should say the 6-spd is almost in...

everything else is ready to be buttoned up and is just waiting for the crossmember
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:41 PM   #77
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:02 PM   #78
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just waiting on the last pieces to come in (bearings and studs). Decided to test out ACL h-series with a calico coating
finishing up the drivetrain install this afternoon as well as getting rid of my tan interior, going grey...already shaved 20lbs from my dash swap.
Still need to test my AEM as I just finished doing all the updates on it. Hoping it isn't fried and that updates were the only issue with it.
Have a massive check list to do for the car, the business and the move...so
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:51 PM   #79
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Isn't it amazing all the things that get in the way when you are trying to get something done...
Reminds me of what John Lennon once said...
"Life is what happens while you are making other plans..."

I can completely relate to what he said, and what he meant by it....
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:37 PM   #80
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Awesome to see some progress on your beast project!!!

Dominic - how's it going? Is KAS a shop you started or teamed up with? Wish it was over here! haha
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Old 09-18-2007, 10:57 PM   #81
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Awesome to see some progress on your beast project!!!

Dominic - how's it going? Is KAS a shop you started or teamed up with? Wish it was over here! haha
don't you worry jon...he'll be coming back to town as my car will be on a dom tune...
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:01 PM   #82
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Isn't it amazing all the things that get in the way when you are trying to get something done...
Reminds me of what John Lennon once said...
"Life is what happens while you are making other plans..."

I can completely relate to what he said, and what he meant by it....
yeah...its really putting a cramp on getting things done...still going to MAKE myself be at least "phase 1" before I move.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:12 PM   #83
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yeah...its really putting a cramp on getting things done...still going to MAKE myself be at least "phase 1" before I move.
I know how that goes... Don't stress yourself... It will all come together in time...

I have been playing with the heads and the molds I made for over a year now, and I am still not done yet...

Here are 2 pictures I took of my heads recently... As you can see, they have come a long way... The exhaust seats are cut out a tad now as well...

The chambers are not done yet... I found a little more room for improvement in them...



The intake ports are about maxed out... And they sonic check fine...
If you look at the reflection on the left intake port, you can see the dogleg that is in them now...
(Think mirrored Big Block Chevy Oval dog leg ports, thats what they remind me of... And flow better to boot... )


If you have any questions about them, you can pm me...
I don't want to hog up your thread...

Did you get all of the drive train in yet???
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:37 PM   #84
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drivetrain has been another headache as I have to get a new tranny crossmember (I have the old one) and the tranny mount I recieved was a mispackage part from the factory...so...more bashing of head against a wall
I'm not too worried as at this point I think I'm going to do the complete 42R build from scratch. Put's less stress on getting things done in time...I'm still shooting for 550 whp on our mustang with a 35R on this build(should be low 10's high 9's in this car). Besides, it will still be my DD for a bit.
Maybe I'll do USCC with the car or something as I build the monster motor drag motor. I will have lots of time to spend on the flowbench for the next motor as compared to the time I have now...also I'll have an engine dyno to develope the engine on. Changing cams and cam timing will have never been sooo easy. Intake and exhaust manifold testing will be easier to do too. tweaking runner length lengths...oh, how I look forward to it...I figure I'll need a little more than 1300 bhp on the SF-902 to crack 1000 at the ground on most dynos...trying to make 1000whp on our mustang would take abot 1450 and a GT45R

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Old 09-20-2007, 11:23 PM   #85
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drivetrain has been another headache as I have to get a new tranny crossmember (I have the old one) and the tranny mount I recieved was a mispackage part from the factory...so...more bashing of head against a wall
I'm not too worried as at this point I think I'm going to do the complete 42R build from scratch. Put's less stress on getting things done in time...I'm still shooting for 550 whp on our mustang with a 35R on this build(should be low 10's high 9's in this car). Besides, it will still be my DD for a bit.
Maybe I'll do USCC with the car or something as I build the monster motor drag motor. I will have lots of time to spend on the flowbench for the next motor as compared to the time I have now...also I'll have an engine dyno to develope the engine on. Changing cams and cam timing will have never been sooo easy. Intake and exhaust manifold testing will be easier to do too. tweaking runner length lengths...oh, how I look forward to it...I figure I'll need a little more than 1300 bhp on the SF-902 to crack 1000 at the ground on most dynos...trying to make 1000whp on our mustang would take abot 1450 and a GT45R
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:51 PM   #86
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ok, well now I'm really debating on testing the OBX adjustable cam gears that everyone seems to be afraid of testing...I would buy the juns but for $1200 I can design my own and have them cnc'ed myself. So on what little amount of my budget is left, I can't reason the juns...
I have also selected a new set of cams to run as I know the cosworth's would suck on my setup...so I'm selling them...didn't to ruin brand new AVCS cams and have a horrible torque curve.
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Old 09-21-2007, 08:47 PM   #87
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I have debated going with the obx ones just for the exhaust cams... Not a bad deal for 400~ for a full set of them...
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Old 09-21-2007, 08:50 PM   #88
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Link to set for sale right now....

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Old 09-22-2007, 01:21 AM   #89
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already found the same ebay set...they are always on there...anyhow, for the drag motor or until I get Hydra, I'd be on all four...once off, I'd be on just exhuast as the intake will have AVCS
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Old 09-23-2007, 02:34 PM   #90
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Nıce buıld Mıcah! Please emaıl me pıcs and detaıls as I can only surf when I fınd ınternet cafes lıke thıs one ın Istanbul.

Dom´s here....I´m tellın´ Hope all ıs well wıth you. Wısh you and Mıcah could have seen the Subarus ın Greece. THOSE boys are doıng crap wıth the 2.0L closed deck motor that would make Amercıans poop theır pants! Every buılt motor overseas ıs 2.0L and they have forsaken everything else.
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:20 PM   #91
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You better have taken some pics of those cars for me...well, I'd rather see video. Sounds to me like some of those overseas boys need some sleeved shortblocks or some EJ257 cases
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:35 PM   #92
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Homemade Wrx I think what Shurdavid meant on the seats was he only cut the hard seat out on the inside to the circumference of the inside of their respective seat size. He didn't mean he removed the hardened seats. Even briggs lawn mowers have hardened seats. I have one thats so loose it rotates in the head but it still runs. I didn't see where he clarified this after your reply about pounding the aluminium out.My son and I were looking at a set of extra sti heads and there is a pretty good lip where the casting does not go out flush with the bottom of the seat in the port. The only way to fix this would be to grind or cut the seat out to match or fill the aluminium in out to flush with the seat I.D. I've never tried an epoxy on aluminium heads for a filler. If anyone has experience with this I would like to hear about it. Or remove the seat, weld the aluminium up and cut it back to flush with the seat and remachine the seat pocket.I think I will just cut it out to smooth it out even if it means it will be larger in this area at least it will be smooth without a lip.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:45 PM   #93
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There are a few ways to get the seat out...
I use an old valve, turn it down so it will slide up into the seat, weld it to the seat, then drive it out with the stem from the other side...
You can also just weld a bead around the inside of the seat, then it will shrink and fall out when it cools...
Replace the guide, then the seat, then machine the seat...
The new seat should have an interference fit of about .005"...
And you are right about my seats, they are still in there...
I think what Homemade WRX was referring to was pushing the seat up into the port because there is very little supporting it on the top side now...
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charlie, at first I thought he was saying he wasn't running a hardened seat...hence the comment that you drew attention to...I went back and looked at the pics and noticed the seats installed. I will be doing similar work on my second set of heads...the first ones are pretty done now short of some time on the serdi and then final flow matching on the bench.
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:20 PM   #95
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well, I'm taking a small break from finishing up the 6-spd install...
note to all early impreza (95 and eariler): you need the newer tranny crossmember and tranny mounts...this alone has given me a great idea for a hardened tranny mount/crossmember that will shave a good chunk of weight too...but that'll be a winter project.
Also, the 6-spd tranny ever so slightly pushed the engine further forward in the engine bay. I know because after the intsall, my 1/4" gap between fans and pulleys narrowed to an 1/8" gap.
One last headache is the same douche who sold me the drivetrain may have dropped a cir-clip in the tranny. I'm getting this info from the persone who bought the rest of the car. He told me that only one of the stubs still had its cir-clip. So, here's to hoping that I don't have a cir-clip in the tranny. Already tried using a magnet to no prevail.

I am also now heavily debating on getting rid of my AC for the 35R set up and doing a little bit of radiator relocating. I'll have this decided before the new motor goes in. ABS will also be coming out along with the rest of the airbag wiring and controller.

P.S. the wrx powersteering mount doesn't fit in my chassis either due to the old ABS actuators that take one of the bolt mount holes.
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:21 AM   #96
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Nice build thread dude. Little did I know the kid from ODU i met at FSAE a couple years ago would build a monster.
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Old 09-30-2007, 09:24 AM   #97
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which school were you and what year? 4 years of competition make for meating lots of great people and great drinking buddies

As for the car, the 6-spd went for its maiden voyage last night...with the tranny barely touching the tunnel (on both sides) the whole car resonates with the engine...quite annoying for a non-racecar. That and every clunk, tick and wine in the drivetrain is amplified throughout the cabin as well...but she does some great axis spins.

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wow very nice build best of luck. Subscibed for updates =]
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One last headache is the same douche who sold me the drivetrain may have dropped a cir-clip in the tranny. I'm getting this info from the person who bought the rest of the car. He told me that only one of the stubs still had its cir-clip. So, here's to hoping that I don't have a cir-clip in the tranny. Already tried using a magnet to no prevail.

I am also now heavily debating on getting rid of my AC for the 35R set up and doing a little bit of radiator relocating. I'll have this decided before the new motor goes in. ABS will also be coming out along with the rest of the airbag wiring and controller.

P.S. the wrx power steering mount doesn't fit in my chassis either due to the old ABS actuators that take one of the bolt mount holes.

The Cir-clip that holds each axle in supposed to stay inside of the transmission, but sometimes it will come out on the end of the axle. Take a flash light and look inside of the transmission through the side and see if you can see the cir-clip on the inside of the transmission. If you can, great Nothing to worry about. Just make sure you get the axles back onto their respective sides.

Im not sure what bolt pattern you're using (which dictates what front axles you use) but if you're running the 5x100 pattern, instead of using the male axles (the late 04 and newer axles that have the stub shafts built onto the transmission side of the axle) I converted my 2005 transmission to use the female axles so I could use the bigger early 04 STI Front axles, and so far I have yet to break one.

The power steering reservoir will fit into the chassis using ABS. I have done this to about 15 cars (mine included). Just use about a 1/2" tall spacer with a hole big enough to fit a 12x1.25mm bolt through it. Remove the bolt closest to the firewall that holds the bumper beam to the car, and then drill a hole in the reservoir bracket so that you can fit the 12mm bolt through it (and still have clearance around everything) and then bolt it down If you need or want pics, I have several I can send.
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