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Old 09-09-2007, 02:25 PM   #1
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Default New, brighter, headlights?

I was hoping to get new headlights because my current ones are very, lacking. What would be involved in getting (not that ricey blue) brighter headlights and fogs?

Would I have to wire in fuses or anything (sorry, I'm not very electrically literate).


Does anyone have any recommendations for headlights and fogs for my car?


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Old 09-09-2007, 08:20 PM   #2
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I would try Slyvania Silverstar bulb replacements. I've heard good things about them. This would be a direct replacement without any modifications. You can find them at most auto parts stores, and even wall mart.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:35 PM   #3
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I have PIAA bulbs on my car. It lights up the road pretty good.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:36 PM   #4
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I have the Silvania Silver Stars and they still lack brightness on dark roads, but are better than stocks. I aimed my lights up a little bit so I can see farther down the road w/o my brights on. I'm going to be saving up for some JDMs and PIAA fogs as well as driving lights after I get the mechanicals out of the way. But yeah, JDMs FTW. They are pricey but WELL worth it from what I've seen. You can even get JDM Fogs occasionally off e bay.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:40 PM   #5
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:58 PM   #6
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I have the Silvania Silver Stars and they still lack brightness on dark roads, but are better than stocks. I aimed my lights up a little bit so I can see farther down the road w/o my brights on. I'm going to be saving up for some JDMs and PIAA fogs as well as driving lights after I get the mechanicals out of the way. But yeah, JDMs FTW. They are pricey but WELL worth it from what I've seen. You can even get JDM Fogs occasionally off e bay.
How much are JDM's and where can I get them?



Do the Silvania Silver Stars also come in a fog light replacement? I can't have mismatching lights
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Old 09-09-2007, 10:24 PM   #7
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Get Osram silverstars, much brighter than the sylvanias and better color (no white) All SS's are available in the H3 bulb I think...

Upgrade your wiring harness too.

When all else fails...




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Old 09-09-2007, 10:39 PM   #8
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Are those the Osram Silverstars on that silver (the one with all the lights) car's main headlights?
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:32 PM   #9
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JDMs are found mostly on e bay and occasionally on sl-i.net. They run anywhere from $150 to $350 shipped to your door, just depends on where they are shipping from and condition.
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Old 09-09-2007, 11:49 PM   #10
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Are those the Osram Silverstars on that silver (the one with all the lights) car's main headlights?
No, those are HID's. The lower driving lights in the center are osram silverstars. All of my lights are running off of 12g harnesses so they're a little brighter than what you would see with stock harnesses (even the stock fogs)
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:18 AM   #11
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get HIDs.....says the guy with the car at the far right in that picture, and hella yellowstar in teh foglights.

P.S. hey ben, who said you could use my pics without permission hmmmm? j/k

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Old 09-10-2007, 12:37 AM   #12
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get HIDs.....says the guy with the car at the far right in that picture, and hella yellowstar in teh foglights.

P.S. hey ben, who said you could use my pics without permission hmmmm? j/k
Oh snap! Copyright infringement!
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:47 PM   #13
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You can shine up the lens with a Permatex kit. That should help.
I don't think the Osram Silverstars are available for the 9007 bulbs. New relays would help get the most out of what you have. The real problem is the weak reflector design.
The stock fogs are useless and not worth fiddling with. Just clean them up for the bling factor.
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:03 PM   #14
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What's the difference between the JDM and USDM head light assemblies?
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Old 09-11-2007, 09:37 PM   #15
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The JDM are projector low beams. The unit is one piece with the corner light included and there is a city light that most people don't use. You need to rewire the harness a little. The JDM pattern is not dot legal and is set up for righthand drive. You can adjust the aim to compensate, but some folks are against it.
I have them and they are better than the US and look JDM tite yo.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:41 PM   #16
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I bought a set of Sylvania Xtravisions for my TS and Outback. The light seems to be brighter with a little less orange and they are cheaper than Silverstars. I bought a set of Silverstars in H3 for my foglights--which I don't use that often--and they only lasted about 6 months.

Osrams are excellent too, but can be hard to find. My last set came from Ebay and cost about $35, however that was for H1 bulbs.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:43 PM   #17
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sylvania silverstars are nice...but they seem to burn out really fast. ive had the same set of ebay "so-called 8000k" for about 9-10 months now and they are way brighter than the crap stock bulbs. and yes, the usdm reflector design blows. except the HID's.
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:51 PM   #18
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Isn't there a lighting FAQ somewhere?

Anyways, since you have a 97, your car should have the plastic fluted headlights. They are probably hazed over. First step is to clean them.

-Wet sand them with fine grit sandpaper, start with 800 and finish with 1500 for best results.

- Then use a plastic cleaner compound.

-Then use some sort of UV protectant. You can wax them, spray on something like 303 UV protectant, these are all temporary, and will need repeated applications. Or you can clear coat them, but you'll need to finely sand and polish the clearcoat to remove the "orangepeel" which will destroy your beam pattern.

Then, you should order QUALITY high performance bulbs. Avoid any bulb that claims anything about HID, 4000K+ colour temp, extreme wattages etc. And avoid Sylvania Silverstars. Yes they are crap.

You can buy Sylvania Xtravsions local. They are about the best you can buy at auto stores in the US.

For better choices, go to www.powerbulbs.com. They carry for the most part high quality bulbs and ship to the US for free.

I believe your car uses H4 bulbs (please check). I suggest either the OSRAM silverstars (+50%), Philips Vision Plus (+50%), or Philips Xtreme Power (+80%).

Then if you are still not satisfied, you can upgrade your headlight harness. But start with those.

Also, please avoid JDM headlights and HID conversions at all costs. Of course you will be able to see better with these things, but the extreme glare directed toward oncoming traffic is unacceptable. Please consider other peoples safety. You can see the ridiculous amount of glare coming from that Legacy at the far right a couple posts up.

And also make sure your headlights are aimed correctly. You can do this easily by parking in front of a wall on a level surface. Adjustments are made at the back of the headlight by turning a small screw or bolt (usually philips/8mm head).

Good luck.
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