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Old 09-10-2007, 07:33 PM   #1
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Hey, I found this picture and was wondering if anyone else has put on an aftermarket spoiler onto their BD Legacy. I was just talking to a guy with an STI and he was talking about how much more stable it was at speed whith the STI wing than with the WRX wing.

I doubt that I would put one on mine, unless it really made the car handle better and didn't look to stupid. I am more curious than anything.

If anyone has pictures or knows what wings would fit, I would be curious to know and see pictures.


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Old 09-10-2007, 07:49 PM   #2
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well it would be more stable at high speed because it raises the aerodynamic surface at the top. if you've ever looked at professional drag cars, you might notice that a lot of the guys that run hatchbacks (Civics mainly) run long, flat wings on top of the hatch. this is because that prevents the air from dropping suddenly at the hatch line, which causes all kinds of stability problems at high speed when that air hits the hatch lid below. same basic concept with sedans and coupes, and one major reason why those roofline spoilers that you see on the new STis were invented (though the STi was not the first car to recieve something like that).

the problem is that those wings tend to be kinda heavy (not all are, i think the OEM version 5 and 6 wings are actually kinda light considering how big they are), and so they weigh you down in the rear.

me personally, i really like that look for the BD, but just remember that it's not really functional until you hit about 75 mph
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:49 PM   #3
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It's ugly (IMO). Maybe something smaller though. It looks like the Evo's.
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:12 PM   #4
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I was originally looking for one of those of my car aswell. I have decided it isn't worth puting that one the car. It looks so out of place on it. Factory spoiler is the way to go.

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Old 09-10-2007, 09:26 PM   #5
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What I don't like is that the factory spoiler does NOTHING. Factory rice. I would like to get something that is functional, and I don't like the look of going wingless.

I have found info from wind tunnel tests that say that the STI wings start being functional around 62mph, and at 83mph measured 46lbs of downforce. That isn't bad, but that is on an impreza body. I don't know how much different it would be on a Legacy. I just can't find any information on what would fit, or if you can make whatever fits on an Impreza fit on a Legacy. Or if anyone had any pictures of an STI or simmilar on a Legacy.
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:34 AM   #6
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The bolt patterns and spacing are completely different on the GC Impreza, BD Legacy, and GD Impreza. If you want to fit an Impreza spoiler on your Legacy trunk you'd need to get a spoiler-less trunk lid and drill the holes.

I picked up a spoiler-less trunk lid earlier this year but haven't done anything with it yet. For street use I'd like something that's lower profile and less boy-racer-ish looking - see this thread for some things I've played with. Depending on how long I keep the car and what I do with it I might end up using one trunk lid to mount a more aggressive/big wing for open track use.

Edit: I'd probably be happy just to find one of the low profile factory BD wings. It's the same arch style as the stock 2.5GT wing, but isn't as tall. I've only seen a couple of pics, but I know they existed - maybe only on the '95/96 years? I'm not really sure. It might not even be a factory part, actually.

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Old 09-11-2007, 02:27 AM   #7
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i think i just threw up in my mouth.... just a little bit, but its still puke in my mouth..
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:56 AM   #8
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Heres a couple after market wings.









And to answer Pat the 95-96 have a stock lower profile wing.

I have the same wing on my car 95 leggy got it through the dealership color matched. Don't know how much was though it was 4 years ago or so when I got it.


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Old 09-11-2007, 08:47 AM   #9
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that last one looks like it took its wheels from a benz
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Old 09-11-2007, 11:51 AM   #10
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Thanks for the info. So far I haven't seen anything that I like on the Legacy. I wish I could see a picture of an STI wing on, but I doubt I would like that anyways. Especially if it is going to take getting another trunk and all, I am just better off with stock.

Oh well, it was worth asking.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:08 PM   #11
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Mmmmm... Me want flared fenders and quarters. I would love to fit some bigger rubber on this car. And that color is awesome!

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And to answer Pat the 95-96 have a stock lower profile wing.
Interesting. I tried looking up spoilers on a couple of the online parts sites and they only come up with "GT style spoiler", which I'm assuming is the higher one I've already got. Actually, seeing that picture I'm not sure the difference is all that great, so I'm not sure it would be worth it for me.

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Old 09-11-2007, 12:23 PM   #12
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How about the stock 02-03 WRX wing?
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:48 PM   #13
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Mmmmm... Me want flared fenders and quarters. I would love to fit some bigger rubber on this car. And that color is awesome!



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I agree. I wonder how much something like this costs. I thought about asking some body shops, but I'm afraid of getting bent over the counter.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:09 PM   #14
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The big problem is the rear doors. Any flaring you do the rear wheel well is going to overlap into the door, which complicates the issue greatly. It would definitely be major $$$ to do any substantial flaring.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:22 PM   #15
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The big problem is the rear doors. Any flaring you do the rear wheel well is going to overlap into the door, which complicates the issue greatly. It would definitely be major $$$ to do any substantial flaring.
Yes, I probably will ask though one of these days, because the biggest advantage after doing such major work, is you could go to a much wider wheel/tire package.

The problem is finding a reputable shop.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:57 AM   #16
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:45 PM   #17
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What I don't like is that the factory spoiler does NOTHING. Factory rice...
No. The small factory wings are there to help break up body lines and make the car's visual flow more appealing. Rice would be something that seems over-the-yop or out of place, like putting a huge drag car wing on a civic. Now, I'm not saying the cars look bad without a wing, but I'd hardly call it rice just because it doesn't do anything for stability...




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Yes, I probably will ask though one of these days, because the biggest advantage after doing such major work, is you could go to a much wider wheel/tire package.

The problem is finding a reputable shop.
You are right that a reputabe shop NEEDS to do such critical body work. But they'd also need to know how to beef up your suspension, too. If you start going with wider and heavier wheels/tires, you will be putting more stress on your hubs, bearings, etc. Now, if you just add an inch of flare and push the wheels out a tiny bit, no real harm done. But anything agressive will require a bit more thought.

But I agree in general... A bit of a fender flare on the legacy models would look nice!!!


And to the original question that started this thread... A big wing can look good on the back of a legacy, but it will feel totally out of place if you don't make other things bigger/more aggressive looking too. You'll need bigger wheels, a more aggressive front end, and a few other mods for a big wing to feel right on the car. That's why it seems to fit that purple-blue car, but not most of the other examples.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:56 PM   #18
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No. The small factory wings are there to help break up body lines and make the car's visual flow more appealing. Rice would be something that seems over-the-yop or out of place, like putting a huge drag car wing on a civic. Now, I'm not saying the cars look bad without a wing, but I'd hardly call it rice just because it doesn't do anything for stability...
That is where we differ. I would call it rice because it doesn't do anything for stability, and that is the point of having a spoiler (unless it is rice). I am sure the guys with the "over the top" and out of place wings are thinking that it just makes the car's visual flow more appealing. I think that they are both rice.

I still haven't seen anything that I like on the Legacy. Even the purple one, the wing looked out of place to me.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:27 PM   #19
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The legacy is electronically governed at speeds that make such huge after-market wings useless.

If you want to go for big-wing style, keep a wing that looks somewhat like the sti. The first one was big, but fit the lines of the car pretty well, the rest just looked off.
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:06 PM   #20
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The legacy is electronically governed at speeds that make such huge after-market wings useless.
As stated above, wind tunnel tests that say that the STI wings start being functional around 62mph, and at 83mph measured 46lbs of downforce.

Not sure about your legacy, but mine goes that fast. Not to mention that many of our Legacies aren't electronically governed. Mine isn't and it has gone well into the 140 range (closed course, professional driver, yada yada).

BTW, I have decided to keep my car looking as much like a sleeper as possible. From looking at the car, Brembos are about the only thing that could tip someone off that there might be something more than they originally thought. Any money spent on a spoiler, could be better spent on a tune, tires, or meth injection.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:46 PM   #21
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Some BD/BKs were governed, some weren't. 112 mph seems to be the key figure. I'd sure like to have some downforce above 90mph which is where a majority of well designed wings will start helping. As stated, the STi wing does work at highway speeds, if only a little.
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