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Old 08-24-2007, 01:28 PM   #1
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So I live in southern Pennsylvania and sometimes we get some hella bad winters between Ice and snow. Last year my Impreza was damn near stuck with all year\season tires so this year im planing to invest in some nice snow\ice tires.

I've had the Blizzak WS-50's before on my 03 Spec-V they did a AMAZING job and would consider them again but I wan't hands down, the most aggressive tires imaginable.

Stud vs studless any recomendations are welcome.

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Old 08-24-2007, 02:08 PM   #2
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I have Toyo Garit HT's (predecessor to the Garit KX's). On ice they are unbelievably good. On snow they are at least as good as the Hakka2's I had previously (Hakka's suck on ice without studs). On dry pavement they are equal to a mediocre touring tire. If it's bad weather safety and performance you want you should consider them. That or studded Hakka's.

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Old 08-24-2007, 03:49 PM   #3
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I have the same Toyo Garits and they are amazing on snow! The one part about them that I wasn't too impressed with is their grip in the rain. Felt like they hydroplaned pretty easily.
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Old 08-25-2007, 06:03 PM   #4
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I was thinking about the Pirelli Winter Carving, good ice\snow traction and studed.

Thoughts?

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Old 08-25-2007, 11:15 PM   #5
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The problem I find with winter tires is the speed ratings SUCK... I lilve in ohio and so yeah we get snow but not as bad as other places...

In the winter I run KUMHO KW17's in a 225/45/17 and they work great and they have a decent speed rating too they're good to 120MPH, versus other H rated winter tires...
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:54 AM   #6
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The Nokian RSi pretty much sits on top of the list of studless winter car tires. There are 3-4 others that are pretty comparable. Its awesome grip in the snow/ice coupled with very good, for a winter tire, dry performance and cornering make it hard to beat.

I am interested to see how the new bridgestone ws-60 performs. I have had ws-50s the last 2 winters and have been very happy with them, especially in deep snow where I think they probably out perform the RSi.

I think it would pretty hard to beat a set of studded Hakka 4 if you can go studded. But as far as studs go, I think its overkill unless you in an area where you are driving on ice all the time.

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Old 08-26-2007, 02:01 PM   #7
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I've always wanted a set of Greendiamond tires. These things look sick. They have small "green diamond" grains imbedded into the rubber. Like having studded tires without the studs.

No personal experience with these tires, but they may be an option for you.
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Old 08-26-2007, 04:41 PM   #8
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If you're looking for a snow tire with a higher speed rating, check out Michelin Pilot Alpin---it's a studless snow, but my friends run them up here in Maine & love them. (I believe theirs has a "H" performance rating.) They can get a bit pricey, though ($100 each or more). The Bridgestone Revo's are a good one, too; and should be less money than the Michelin's.
If you're looking at a studable snow, the Bridgestone Winterforce is a good choice (real aggressive treadpattern), & not too expensive.
Hope that's some help, if any...
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Old 08-27-2007, 08:48 AM   #9
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We now carry the Vredestein Wintrac Extreme.

This winter tire comes with a speed rating of V or H depending on size.

Most Scooby fitments are a V rated tire.

Please feel free to contact us with any questions.

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Old 08-27-2007, 09:59 AM   #10
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I've always wanted a set of Greendiamond tires. These things look sick. They have small "green diamond" grains imbedded into the rubber. Like having studded tires without the studs.

No personal experience with these tires, but they may be an option for you.
The Greendiamond, Toyo Garit KX's and Observes, Nokian RSI's and Bridgestone REVO 1's all use similar imbedded grains, and it does work great in ice, and when combined with a good snow tread any of these tires will kick ass on snow and ice in winter. The downside of imbedded grain tires is they tend to be very hard, which diminishes their performance on tarmac somewhat.

If you're concerned about speed ratings the Toyo Garit KX's are H-rated (one of the reasons I bought the HT's).
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:53 PM   #11
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I have never heard that the RSi had embedded grains.......
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:00 PM   #12
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blizzack lm-25s are very good in rain and snow, and have a high speed rating and directional performance oriented tread on them. they pretty much kick ass IMO. im going to run them agian this winter.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:25 PM   #13
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I have never heard that the RSi had embedded grains.......
I might be wrong about the RSi's - I was going from memory and I can't see anything on their website about it.
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:30 AM   #14
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I love my Dunlop winter sport 3D's. H rating
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:00 PM   #15
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<-- will also likely be getting the 3D's. Want Nokians, but $180+ per tire is just a lot.
Have had cheap mastercrafts, studded which were a B- for me.
Had studded hakkapellitta 1's, A- only because of how harsh & loud they were on the not-snow.
Tried the AS approach with Kumho ASX one winter.....nope, C- they were equally mediocre at everything.
Had Pirelli Winter carvings, unstudded did darn well B+ only because for the price, you can do better.

<----Lives in and around Tahoe/Truckee/Reno
Usually lots of snow and winter conditions.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:27 PM   #16
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I go a 1K miles a week and live in NE PA and go through the Poconos at 430 AM in really deep snow.The LM25 always ran good,plus I have taken them up to 140 several times with no problems.
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