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Old 08-13-2007, 12:25 PM   #1
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Anyone here know anything about washing machines? I have a plain jane Whirlpool model and yesterday the water pump seized then proceeded to blow a gasket and leak all over my house.

I got it all apart and figured it was an easy fix so I replaced the water pump today. Decided to run a small load to check for leaks. There appeared to be no leaks then there was a huge swish of water.

It appears that the water shutoff (or something else) is not working because it completely overfilled the basin. Finally all the water is up and I siphoned most of the water out of the basin.

Any ideas what may be wrong?

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Old 08-13-2007, 12:33 PM   #2
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You probably didnt connect or disturbed the water shutoff.
Why did you siphon it out? Didnt you just replace the pump?
Or the pump wasnt the problem and the water shutoff was?

How much did the water pump run you?

Need more details.

Considering its a plain jane its was probably worthwhile to just get a new one.
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:36 PM   #3
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water pump was $50 right down the street ($20ish on ebay)

How can I fix/where is the water shutoff?

Is it likely that something electrical could have fried when it leaked the first/second time? If something electrical is dead it really may be worth it just to replace. Only problem is that I may move in a month (or three, dunno) and don't feel like buying new appliances.
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:40 PM   #4
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You really should have done a bit more trouble shooting before you did the pump.

The watershutoff has to be some sort of float sensor or something because the level of water vary's between the cycles and the amount of clothes.
Ive never had to mess with the water shutoff so i dunno there. Just look it has to be electrical.

Im guessing that the shutoff stopped working and it overfilled and fried the pump?

Or you didnt connect the shutoff system to the switch or pump whoever its wired.

Could be many things.

They arent overly complicated but its hard when your not a washing machine repairman and doing it over the internet.
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:47 PM   #5
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Well I know the pump is what was leaking yesterday. Where the inner circle of plastic is some dark silver plastic blew out and caused a whole where all the water was flowing from.

Busted:


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Old 08-13-2007, 12:49 PM   #6
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http://ctct.essortment.com/washingmachine_rmao.htm

quick troubleshooting guide and howto info
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:58 PM   #7
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Well I just tried to run spin cycle and it pumped the remaining water out of the unit. I'm guessing that the water level switch went bad. Now I just have to find where it is on the unit
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:02 PM   #8
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Inside the switch panel, you'll find a folded sheet with a schematic.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:22 PM   #9
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Well I got the shell off (man that was much easier than how I did it yesterday)

I also found the schematic but I'm no engineer. I can see the Water Level switch (PN: 3366847 - http://cgi.ebay.com/Kenmore-whirlpoo...QQcmdZViewItem ) but I can't tell how it knows the water level. It has a hose that runs from the bottom of the basin up to it but it is way too high for any water to reach it (does it just read pressure)? Is there anyway to test the switch?
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:08 PM   #10
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Thanks for the help 02wrx and avk. Its working now... the diaphragm was busted on the water level switch. Odd that both that and the water pump would go at the same time.
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:16 PM   #11
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yw.

Ive had to fix a dryer solenoid and diagnose a lid switch on a washer. I had no clue how to do either but after stareing at it for a while i figured it out.
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:54 PM   #12
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Anyone here know anything about washing machines? I have a plain jane Whirlpool model and yesterday the water pump seized then proceeded to blow a gasket and leak all over my house.

I got it all apart and figured it was an easy fix so I replaced the water pump today. Decided to run a small load to check for leaks. There appeared to be no leaks then there was a huge swish of water.

It appears that the water shutoff (or something else) is not working because it completely overfilled the basin. Finally all the water is up and I siphoned most of the water out of the basin.

Any ideas what may be wrong?

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sell them and buy new ones !
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:09 PM   #13
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Keep in mind the point of diminishing returns as you keep digging and replacing stuff .... a new basic top loader that works well can be had for about $3-400 at Sears.
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Old 09-18-2007, 06:46 PM   #14
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bumping this....we are getting black grease stains on the laundry starting yesterday...it's a Maytag. Almost like the stuff in this pic:



Pitch it or start taking it apart? Other than crapping on the contents, it seems to work fine.
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:32 PM   #15
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Its probably the gear box. There is a seal that goes bad.
Not sure what it cost's to fix.
How old is your machine?


It could also be the bleach/fabric softener dispensers. After a while it builds up as a residue and will stain clothes.
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:50 PM   #16
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Keep in mind the point of diminishing returns as you keep digging and replacing stuff .... a new basic top loader that works well can be had for about $3-400 at Sears.
except that many of the newer machines won't last for 5 years, let alone the 35+ years my maytag has so far. it's an ugly color (harvest gold), loud, and i'm sure it uses too much water, but it works.
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:57 PM   #17
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PGT if you part on the bottom looks like that don't pinch it because when mine popped it started leaking.

That part ranges from $20 (internet) to $50 (what I paid local)
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except that many of the newer machines won't last for 5 years, let alone the 35+ years my maytag has so far. it's an ugly color (harvest gold), loud, and i'm sure it uses too much water, but it works.

If your thinking about a new machine vs. fixing your old one, ITS BROKEN. It does not work.
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:24 PM   #19
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Its probably the gear box. There is a seal that goes bad.
Not sure what it cost's to fix.
How old is your machine?


It could also be the bleach/fabric softener dispensers. After a while it builds up as a residue and will stain clothes.
it's original to the house which was built in '01 so six years old. It's a Maytag Performa (I think...I'll have to check the model).

It appears to be gearbox grease. I haven't torn it apart yet...wondering if it's worth doing that. Sounds like it might be.
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:42 PM   #20
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Well think of it this way. If you tear it apart and find out that it cost $20 to fix then +1. Or if you tear it apart and find out that it cost $100 to fix then +1 as well.

It cant hurt to see whats wrong with it and whether its worth fixing. Hell maybe the next time a washer breaks you will know what to do. Thats how i helped everyone in this thread by fixing my moms appliances.

If you have the money to burn then buy a new one and see if you can fix the old one. Then sell the old one if you fix it. Im sure you can get atleast $100 for it.
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well, I've got a two week old baby at home and she gets about five wardrobe changes a day if I let my wife have her way. Timeliness > DIY fix
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