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Old 09-19-2007, 02:50 PM   #1
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Default What FAQ's do we need in here?

The brake one is okay, and the swaybar one is pretty okay. S-techs thread is as good as it needs to be

The RCE thread about parts fitment is quite good.

There have got to be others. Off the top of my head, "Help, my ABS light is on!" - seem to be seeing that a lot lately.

There's the ever popular "what springs should I buy" question. That may be a a bit controversial but I would think, at worst, we could come up with a list of candidates, and certainly a list of "for the love of god don't buy [x]" springs.

I'm more than happy to write stuff, but any feedback from folks as far as what needs to be written would be helpful The offseason is coming up... yay spare time!

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Old 09-19-2007, 03:14 PM   #2
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Yeah, for a Strut/Springs FAQ it would be really good to pair up what spring works with what strut as well.
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:20 PM   #3
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A spring spreadsheet that is continually upgraded with spring rates and lowering amounts would be nice.
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:33 PM   #4
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A spring spreadsheet that is continually upgraded with spring rates and lowering amounts would be nice.
+1. That would be very helpful.
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:34 PM   #5
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"I'm going for an alignment - what should I ask for?"
With subtopics based on type of driving, common parts that increase/decrease different measurements, and some Q&A on "here are my alignment numbers - is my alignment guy any good?"
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:36 PM   #6
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struts/spring info:
What springs are too heavy for which struts
common combos - their handling characteristics and visual appearance
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:43 PM   #7
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Yeah, for a Strut/Springs FAQ it would be really good to pair up what spring works with what strut as well.
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A spring spreadsheet that is continually upgraded with spring rates and lowering amounts would be nice.
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struts/spring info:
What springs are too heavy for which struts
common combos - their handling characteristics and visual appearance
I think we can combine these three ideas.

Something like this:
-Springs designed for stock WRX/2.5i shocks
-Springs designed for stock STi shocks
-Springs designed for aftermarket shocks (safe to group all of these together?)
-Coilover springs (Eibach, Swift, Hyperco etc) and some stats on how far they travel before coilbind and the like (stretch has done a lot of work on this)

So a paragraph might look like this:

Springs for stock WRX struts

* Prodrive: Spring rates x front, y rear ; lowers -1 front, -1 rear
* Tanabe: Spring rates x front, y rear ; lowers -1 front, -1 rear

Springs considered harmful for stock WRX struts:

* Cobb: (stats)
* Tein: (stats)

Springs we don't know much about:

* [x] (stats)



So maybe we could group every known spring into one of those main categories (which shock they are intended for) and then into a sub category (known OK, known bad, unknown).

I don't want to editorialize too much on the springs if possible - that starts getting dicey at some point. I guess we could collect "parts review" threads. In other words, I don't want to say spring X handles well, or has bad ride quality, or whatever. Listing the rates and the heights should accomplish that in a somewhat objective way. We could distinguish the track-intended springs (i.e. STi Tarmacs) but there aren't that many of those.

I also don't want to make any subjective statements about "visual appearance" - that is for Member's Car Gallery - this is the suspension tech forum.


That would cover springs. There would have to be a separate section for shocks, with a brief note about how the 05+ STi's are special.


This is starting to take shape I think...

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Old 09-19-2007, 03:56 PM   #8
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combined with the RCE thread (which I think is boss), the above would be a HUGE help to the novice fella.

Good ideas y'all
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Old 09-19-2007, 04:13 PM   #9
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Oh yeah. The springs/shocks list should have part numbers since there are a lot of different versions of the same thing (i.e. prodrive springs)

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Old 09-19-2007, 05:02 PM   #10
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Hmmm, yeah, spring faq would be good. There are spreadsheets out there, but they're pretty old and not always accurate. The S-tech thread should probably stay separate to stand out more though.

I like the coilover faq idea, it could stay pretty simple and still be useful.

Why you should be considering coilovers, what you should look for in a coilover, what's available, price range, etc.
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Old 09-19-2007, 06:05 PM   #11
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Noises.... Noises that make people paranoid...

"What is the cause of this noise" FAQ is a must!!!

Clanking when going over speed bumps - check this
Noise when turn - check this

When I had clanking noise due to the fact that my endlink was loose, I would find hundreds of them... it would be nice to have them all in one place
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:05 PM   #12
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That layout would work well for spring rates, shocks they're designed for and f/r drop.

Also, I agree that you could easily combine the aftermarket shocks into a single group as there aren't that many out there.
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:30 PM   #13
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well, given that it's in brakes/steering/suspension here we go:

Brakes:
basics of how they work
basics of how pads work and general what compounds do what, why, and intended use
basics of rotors
basic general pad (floating and fixed) and shoe changing
discussion of how a MC works
discussion on how a booster works
discussion on properly bleeding brakes
discussion on fluid and what does what
then we get into upgrades
brake bias
brake torque
heat capacity
cooling
big brake kits

Steering:
basics of how it works
basics of inner tie rod
basics of outter tie rod
basics of ackerman angles
basics of how a steering rack works
basics of how a steering pump works
bump steer (could be in suspension)
then we get into upgrades
cooler
quick rack
steering wheel upgrades (wheel diameter, quick release)

Suspension (this is the big one):
Basics of springs
Basics of dampers
Understanding of the relationship of both
top hats
alignments
coilovers
coilovers/dampers advanced - how they work, the guts of them
spring/strut combos
list of common springs w/ rates and drop
discussion of common pitfalls (too much drop, too much rate)
anti-rollbars
discussion of common pitfalss (too small, too big)
accessory hardware (endlinks, ALK, camber bolts, CC plates)
Lateral links
trailing arms
control ams
adjustable of the three above
stiffer bushings
weight transfer
corner weighting/balancing (maybe spanning alignment and coilovers)
there is a TON more that can be added.

I ran across a site long ago (I think it was a Mazda site) that had a wikipedia section for all the stuff like this. I think that would be something great to have/set up for us. If not off nasioc I can certainly see what it would take to build one and host if off the TiC site.
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:04 PM   #14
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I have way more bandwidth than I know what to do with and my host has an auto wiki installer/setter upper thing if anyone would like to try it out.
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Old 09-19-2007, 09:18 PM   #15
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Can we get a coilover care sticky or something similar as it seems to be a question people ask?
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:40 PM   #16
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Mental note: Add Eibachs to the "not recommended" list
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1324868
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Old 09-20-2007, 10:57 PM   #17
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The fact that STi struts clunk, greasing them helps a lot, and how to do it.

A lot of old threads on this, but the questions are coming back.

(Thanks for the first help posters...)
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Old 09-25-2007, 03:03 PM   #18
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Another one: need an FAQ about swapping Brembos onto a WRX.
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:36 PM   #19
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The fact that STi struts clunk, greasing them helps a lot, and how to do it.

A lot of old threads on this, but the questions are coming back.

(Thanks for the first help posters...)
This is what I was thinking. Maybe a definitive STi strut swap/compatibility/will they work for me/care and maintenance FAQ.

With the number of STi suspensions out there for the taking, it would be helpful for people to have a place to go to see if they want to go that route...

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Old 09-25-2007, 05:37 PM   #20
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Oh yeah, and I need to add the "which STi struts do you have" thread to the sticky.
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:39 PM   #21
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didn't someone make up an X Y Z thread about struts, springs and tophat fitment?
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:30 PM   #22
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Another one: need an FAQ about swapping Brembos onto a WRX.
Yeah, especially since with the 06+ STi rear fitment is much easier than before.
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:33 PM   #23
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I just browsed through the sticky, so I could have missed it, but I didnt see a pad FAQ. Whenever I lurk in this forum, I tend to see lots of questions like "Which pads..." or "hAlp, my brakes have teh squeak!".

What would be nice is for someone with experience on pads to rate them on:
1. Noise
2. Dust
3. Performance
4. Longevity

Just my 2c.
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Old 10-17-2007, 06:19 PM   #24
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STi strut faq
-which ones do I have (Everyone with STi suspension takeoffs please read. (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page) )
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ruts+dots+spec
-why do they clunk
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ighlight=strut
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...9&postcount=11
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...clunk+stiction
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...55&postcount=3
-how do I make them not clunk
--above
-what springs can they handle
-discussion of them already being on the bumpstops

Scoobymods mega-list
-how to bleed brakes
-how to install a suspension
-how to do swaybars

etc etc

Just writing some stuff down before I forget it

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A camber plate thread:
what they do
what's available
camber vs camber/caster
effect on ride height
cost


Also I'm still willing to make a wiki so a people can start writing stuff in a moderately organized fashion.

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