Something is going very wrong (07 Sti)

[Blueghost6789]

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[raholek]

I read everyone flamin on you: but what was it?

Besides, I thought these cars were built for rally racing. Although, abuse will break anything if you work at it . My dealers act like if you shift your car at six grand you will destroy it. Maybe the stock computers should limit your car to five grand. Or maybe SOA should just sell these cars with no warranty.
That would save them the time of denying every warranty
problem .

[imprezivSTi04]

i would be pretty interested in knowing what happened too...maybe an engine mount...but that dosent explain the car not going anywhere...i dont know about the 07's...but ive seen a few of the 04 STi's pop rear axles out but not break them .... ive beaten my 04 like a redheaded stepchild, revlimiter bouncing and side stepping the clutch, awd doughnuts, yanking the handbrake at 50 and sliding on the blacktop, missed flatfoot shifts, and etc etc...they were built to drive... so i say drive it like you want. you said youve played the game before...so me or anyone else telling you that you better stop that or youre gonna break something is just a huge waste of space on this forum ...so have fun!

[dans06limited]

Good luck with the car man best of luck.... It seems to me maybe your beatin on it too much

[k mier]

Originally Posted by n2oiroc

once in a while something weird happens. if it felt like a axle went, but he looks and its fine and doesnt see anything wrong, its natural to try again. some of you guys sound like the vette guys. never using it for its intended purpose, just paper racing and polishing it while wearing a sti hat.

um...no...it's not natural to just keep trying...unless you are trying to tear it up. If that would have happened to me, a phone call would have been made, thirty minutes later the car would have been loaded on a trailer and towed home, it would then be dissected in hopes of finding the problem. I work too darn hard for what little money I make and refuse to just throw it away.

It's been to the drag strip prob seventy five times in the last two years plus one entire day on a road course. No, I do not have an STI hat.

[n2oiroc]

Originally Posted by k mier

um...no...it's not natural to just keep trying...unless you are trying to tear it up. If that would have happened to me, a phone call would have been made, thirty minutes later the car would have been loaded on a trailer and towed home, it would then be dissected in hopes of finding the problem. I work too darn hard for what little money I make and refuse to just throw it away.

It's been to the drag strip prob seventy five times in the last two years plus one entire day on a road course. No, I do not have an STI hat.

if i towed my sti home everytime it acted funny or made a funny noise, it would spend more time on the trailer than it does on the road.

[k mier]

Originally Posted by n2oiroc

if i towed my sti home everytime it acted funny or made a funny noise, it would spend more time on the trailer than it does on the road.

I take it you're being sarcastic cause a loud boom and revs w/no forward motion while in gear are way more than, "acting funny".

[n2oiroc]

Originally Posted by k mier

I take it you're being sarcastic cause a loud boom and revs w/no forward motion while in gear are way more than, "acting funny".

i wasnt being sarcastic, but that is a little beyond what noises mine makes. i still think it was just boost cut.

[k mier]

Hit fuel cut from over boosting, didn't make any kind of noise though and only in the higher gears. Car simply shut off for a split second and lit the flashing cruise light.

He said the car traveled about a foot then boom it went no where, that means he was still in first, mine will not build boost to max before hitting the rev limiter in first, in fact prob only hits twelve or so psi. Also he says nothing about a flashing cruise. IMO, that rules out over boosting.

[KrazyKarl]

Have you made any progress figuring this out? I've been following the thread and i'd like to know what it is in case I run into it.

[STi Mikey]

Wow, havnt been here since the day i made the thread. Lotta azz holes in this section. Just to clear up with the people who are blaming the driver and being tools about it. If you read carefully, this is my second STi. The first STi I owned was traded in in near flawless condition at approx 65k. I drove that car much harder and for 61k miles more. That car always saw side stepping at the track and when spirited driving was a must. The only defects which WERE covered by the dealer (5yr/60k) were a bad fourth and fifth gear synchro, somewhat common to the MY 04 STi. That stock clutch took 50k of abuse by the way, before it started to slip in the tall gears.

Sorry guys, when I spend 35k on a car, i spend it to have as much fun as I can, and not care about breaking anything. As long as I do not crash, i dont care if i blow the motor, or break the tranny. Thats why I keep close to stock trim. I spend 30min on a saturday taking the exhaust off, I go to my buddy over at Subaru, they fix it. Plain and simple. If I bought these cars to worry about snapping something, I would accept the fact that I was a pus y and would have spent half on a brand new civic.

To the few of you that have been reasonable, it seems as if changing the diff fluid has made a difference. Last night I launched the car on the road twice, some wheelspin, very little hop, and the car was gone.

I also want to clerify one thing, I owned my previous 04 STi for the better of two years. I was used to how I drove that car, and how that car responded. It may be fair to say that some cars certainly respond differently to similar driving.

[STi Mikey]

Originally Posted by KrazyKarl

Have you made any progress figuring this out? I've been following the thread and i'd like to know what it is in case I run into it.

Karl,

even though this rarely happens, i would suggest changing all stock fluids as soon as you get the chance. I was talking to a suby tech the other day and he reminded me that the factory fluids are real crap, especially for suby's performance inspired cas. Also, if your still on the factory tune, get flashed by the dealer or get a protune.

[l0pl0p]

I keep thinking glazed clutch... But the bang?

Any shavings come out with the fluid?

[STi Mikey]

Originally Posted by l0pl0p

I keep thinking glazed clutch... But the bang?

Any shavings come out with the fluid?

No shavingss with the fluid. In another month or so Im going back to the track. If this problem pops up again, im bringing it into subaru to have it analyzed. I am very appreciative for having met a steller tech who knows the STi drivetrain in and out. About the clutch, i think there is a strong possibilty you may be right. I would, however, be very surprised. One of my suby buddies bought an 06 sti, brand new. He was HORRIBLE on the clutch and loved side stepping on the stock re07's. His clutch was heavily worn by 22k miles but still drove.

And about the bang, it happened so quick. I think that may have been the usual diff bang while trying to come out of the box hard. On the highway, I was blasting some rock to wake me up on my morning commute so not sure if it made the same noise. All I know is, when you downshift form 6th to third in these cars you get thrown the hell back. I was anticipating this forceful affect, but the car went nowhere.

[STi Mikey]

Originally Posted by saab-on-the-cobb

Good GOD! This post deserves a sticky for "world's biggest putz."

6000+ rpm launch? YGTBFKM!

It's a wonder you did not put a rod through the block already.

And then you drop from 6 to 3rd on the hwy? Holy smoked tranny, Batman.

Did the "rev maching" = 6500rpm?

You know, these cars redline @ ~ 7k...


Also, I am not sure if you know this, but our engine blocks are approx. the size of a home stereo receiver. Not a huge motor.





Something's wrong, allright!

IN FACT: MODERATORS: How about changing the title of this thread to EXCLUDE "07 STI." It is not the '07 car's fault. This seems like it just miiiight be "operator error."
--sotc

Right here, another idiot who does not know how to read, or just doesnt know his tranny.

3rd gear @ 65 mph = beginning of powerband

[saab-on-the-cobb]

Originally Posted by STi Mikey

Next run, launch a little higher (6k slip, matching increase of throttle with decrease in clutch to the best of my ability). Right here, another idiot who does not know how to read, or just doesnt know his tranny.

3rd gear @ 65 mph = beginning of powerband

HUH?


I won't get in a pissing match with someone who's already soaked his own pants.

Run along, Junior.

I was an "idiot" long before you were a twitch in your mama's coot.

You drive like a friggin' moron, and wonder what's wrong with your car?

It's the singer, not the song.

So just go change your username, and come back as someone who knows WTF he's talking about.



I would give you a free short block if you had the sack to call me an idiot to my face.

SOTC

[STi Mikey]

Originally Posted by saab-on-the-cobb

HUH?


I won't get in a pissing match with someone who's already soaked his own pants.

Run along, Junior.

I was an "idiot" long before you were a twitch in your mama's coot.

You drive like a friggin' moron, and wonder what's wrong with your car?

It's the singer, not the song.

So just go change your username, and come back as someone who knows WTF he's talking about.



I would give you a free short block if you had the sack to call me an idiot to my face.

SOTC

Ok, Dad. Maybe the "idiot" thing was a bit harsh. But you dont have to get so defensive over not knowing your own gearing ratio's. Why dont you read the original post. Ive been driving these cars for a few years now, the same way if not even harder, as I have mentioned. I have had very few problems but have never had this happen on my own or any other Sti that buddies own.

Its only ashame we didnt live closer Saab. Your right, I wouldnt have the balls to talk shid to you, as my profession requires a clean record. However, I would just love to get you at a track day or autocross event. Now that my previous problem is not hindering my performance, I would throw any amount of money down that I would win.

But since you were doing this while I was still a sperm, well then you could double my baby cash (I'm right out of college) and kill me in the turns

Well, we'll never get a chance at this, but I really just wouldnt see any closed auto event in your favor.

Oh, and another side note. I wouldnt need your shortblock. I get those for free. And outside of the suby 5yr/60k, they only cost me peanuts through my father's shop.

[nhat]

Originally Posted by STi Mikey

Oh, and another side note. I wouldnt need your shortblock. I get those for free. And outside of the suby 5yr/60k, they only cost me peanuts through my father's shop.

unless SOA says it's from abuse...which means you'd be SOL

see what i did???

[downsti]

sounds pretty story. mike

back when i had my 04 STi.
when i launched i heard this loud ass bang semilar to what you describe and the car didnt move and it took me off first gear. i could never figure it out what was it, i tryed to recreate it but i couldnt, it happend when i atleast expect it to happen. it basicly throws me off my first gear to nuetral. and car dont move with a very very loud bang.



do you launch on different DCCD setting?

so when you heard this loud bang did it take you off gear?

[subaru222]

poor STI...4th gear ok not 3....

[STi Mikey]

Originally Posted by downsti

sounds pretty story. mike

back when i had my 04 STi.
when i launched i heard this loud ass bang semilar to what you describe and the car didnt move and it took me off first gear. i could never figure it out what was it, i tryed to recreate it but i couldnt, it happend when i atleast expect it to happen. it basicly throws me off my first gear to nuetral. and car dont move with a very very loud bang.



do you launch on different DCCD setting?

so when you heard this loud bang did it take you off gear?

No keep it in auto. But yeah, the same thing that was happening to you is happening to me (except the the shifter does not move to the neutral position). But it hasnt happened since last week. My launches on the street are crisp and clean.

On another note, some guys on this forum are ripping me apart for shifting from 6th to 3rd at 65 mph. You happen to be one of the best if not the best driver on these forums, at least in the drag. So, if a 400whp camaro rolls up to you on the high way, your doing about 65, if not a mile an hour or 2 lower. Are you going to shift into 3rd, or 4th? I know our gearing in third is a little different, but what do you think.

Either Im very wrong about third, or alot of these Sti guys REALLY do not know their own trannies.

[downsti]

Originally Posted by STi Mikey

No keep it in auto. But yeah, the same thing that was happening to you is happening to me (except the the shifter does not move to the neutral position). But it hasnt happened since last week. My launches on the street are crisp and clean.

On another note, some guys on this forum are ripping me apart for shifting from 6th to 3rd at 65 mph. You happen to be one of the best if not the best driver on these forums, at least in the drag. So, if a 400whp camaro rolls up to you on the high way, your doing about 65, if not a mile an hour or 2 lower. Are you going to shift into 3rd, or 4th? I know our gearing in third is a little different, but what do you think.

Either Im very wrong about third, or alot of these Sti guys REALLY do not know their own trannies.

nah i know enought to help me out on drag and roll racing
yea alot of people dont know much how our tranny or our car works..
hmm if your goin 60 - 65mph 5500 - 6000rpm. the ideal gear should be 3rd and for 40mph ideal gear is 2nd 5500 - 6000rpm , from a roll is different racing than drag racing. have you heard of the term called " brake boost " . alot of people claim that its easy to do and they know how to do it, but really brake boost gives turbo cars advantage from a roll agiasnt supercharged to N/A cars.

i shouldnt be telling cuz my friends dont want me revealing some " secrets " to my drive hahaha. but i dont care
if your racing from a roll with stock turbo with high torque. on 040506 sti
i start at 4th gear on 60 - 65 roll about 3900 -4000rpm and for 40mph roll i start at 3rd gear at 3400 - 3500rpm. yes thats correct 40mph roll at 3400 - 3500 rpm hahaha

this is me brake boosting from 60mph i was in 4th gear a t 3900 - 4000rpm agaisnt my buddys 440whp gto (12.4 at116mph) i was on race gas (11sec set up)
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...44001d5b95.htm

heres another example on this video all i on my 91 with NO ewg (old setup)
agaisnt my buddys talon he makes about 380whp at the time and runs 11.8 - 11.9 consinstantly on the track
brake boosting from 40mph on 3rd 3400 - 3500rpm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H4UbB8uKq8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On4dkFYx_Dg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DqKISMaxHE

anyways i shouldnt be talking about street racing here.. but yea

stimikey is right

the ideal gear for 60 - 65mph should be 3rd gear.. if not brake boosting
for 40mph roll 2nd gear is the ideal gear if not brake boosting

and i can vouch for sti mikey
i read most of his post, about his sti
he knows what his doin
so poeple get off his back

[k mier]

Confused...if third is turning 6k at 65 why wouldn't you want to shift to fourth? On a pretty much stock sti things are over with by ~6k and a shift will be required almost as soon as you get into that gear. Why not fourth, it's still in the meat of the power and you have much further to pull before a shift is needed? 6k seems more like the end of the power not the beginning.

[l0pl0p]

Originally Posted by STi Mikey

No shavingss with the fluid. In another month or so Im going back to the track. If this problem pops up again, im bringing it into subaru to have it analyzed. I am very appreciative for having met a steller tech who knows the STi drivetrain in and out. About the clutch, i think there is a strong possibilty you may be right. I would, however, be very surprised. One of my suby buddies bought an 06 sti, brand new. He was HORRIBLE on the clutch and loved side stepping on the stock re07's. His clutch was heavily worn by 22k miles but still drove.

And about the bang, it happened so quick. I think that may have been the usual diff bang while trying to come out of the box hard. On the highway, I was blasting some rock to wake me up on my morning commute so not sure if it made the same noise. All I know is, when you downshift form 6th to third in these cars you get thrown the hell back. I was anticipating this forceful affect, but the car went nowhere.

Maybe cracked pressure plate? Or cracked clutch disc. I'm really thinking this is related to a broken part somewhere in the clutch. Either of the previous could cause some odd noises, although I am not certain if they would only show up in hard driving.

Doesn't 3rd run out around 85 in an 07? Doesn't seem like a bad gear choice. 4th gear at 65 wouldn't even have our '07's out of CL, would it?

I don't drag, so that's really not my forte. But I'm really not sure why folks have their panties so in a bunch about dropping to 3rd on the highway. Perhaps 4th is a better choice, but he's not talking overreving here...

[STi Mikey]

Originally Posted by k mier

Confused...if third is turning 6k at 65 why wouldn't you want to shift to fourth? On a pretty much stock sti things are over with by ~6k and a shift will be required almost as soon as you get into that gear. Why not fourth, it's still in the meat of the power and you have much further to pull before a shift is needed? 6k seems more like the end of the power not the beginning.

Your right k, for your sti. The 07 is a tad bit longer in the 07. 3rd revs out to just about the 85 mark. And about the sti's running out up top.... This is tru, however on my everyday pump gas tune my car only falls off about 7 hp. My racegas tune, thats a different story. It falls from 330 to 300 at reline.