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Old 09-29-2007, 12:04 AM   #1
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Default Best upgrade for '03-'04 BE Fogs?

Hey guys,

OK, so I'm sick of going by the book and having the dealer replace my short-lived fog light every time they blow. After doing a quick search, it looks like these aren't too difficult to replace on my own (correct?) So, that being said, what are my best options for upgrades? I don't care about the color - I just want to improve output, if possible, without melting wiring or the lense. I know Susquehana Motorsports and Daniel Stern has a ton of bulbs to choose from, but if you guys could help me pin down the best bang for the buck, it'd be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Old 09-29-2007, 01:06 AM   #2
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Hey guys,

OK, so I'm sick of going by the book and having the dealer replace my short-lived fog light every time they blow. After doing a quick search, it looks like these aren't too difficult to replace on my own (correct?) So, that being said, what are my best options for upgrades? I don't care about the color - I just want to improve output, if possible, without melting wiring or the lense. I know Susquehana Motorsports and Daniel Stern has a ton of bulbs to choose from, but if you guys could help me pin down the best bang for the buck, it'd be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Jeff
I piggybacked a 12g relay harness to them, and ran 30% bulbs. I also changed the aim to go up a little higher. Still not a lick of difference.

I didn't really want to try the 100w bulbs I had because the enclosure doesn't have air moving past it when driving (like my other lights) and the back is just plastic.

It's not really that worth it trying to make the things work IMO. The fault's in the lens and housing design I think.

You can change the bulbs by yourself though. Really easy; just bend the little plastic undertray out of the way (it's held on by 2 push-in clips - I've taken them on/off so many times I just use zipties), unplug the wires to the foglight and twist off the plastic cap. You can take out the bulbs after you move the little clip that secures it in the housing.

Maybe try some Philip H3's or generic H3 bulbs from the local autostore; they're cheap enough. I wouldn't try silverstars simply because they're $$ for what they are, and some people have bad experiences with them burning out too quickly.
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Old 09-29-2007, 10:01 AM   #3
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You can get some hella yellowstars. The easyest way to get to the fog lights bulbs is to take out the headlights (3 screws) and you will see the foglight cover underneath.
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Old 09-30-2007, 01:02 AM   #4
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I have 80k miles and about 6 years on my 2001 outback, and I haven't blown a foglight yet... and I leave them on 100% of the time. maybe I should just sell you my magic bulbs.
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Old 09-30-2007, 05:55 AM   #5
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I have 80k miles and about 6 years on my 2001 outback, and I haven't blown a foglight yet... and I leave them on 100% of the time. maybe I should just sell you my magic bulbs.
Do you notice them making a difference in light output?

Anyway, the Outbacks got bigger foglight housings. I think the small projector housings tend to hold the heat in better, thus contributing to the bulb burning out faster.
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:38 PM   #6
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You can get some hella yellowstars. The easyest way to get to the fog lights bulbs is to take out the headlights (3 screws) and you will see the foglight cover underneath.
Where's the best place to get these? Any "model" in particular to get? Going by rougeben's post, I'm guessing the projector fogs require H3 bulbs?

Thanks for the feedback.
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:54 PM   #7
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H3 from http://www.rallylights.com/hella/H3.asp ....55w is your stock wattage.
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Old 09-30-2007, 06:52 PM   #8
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I have 80k miles and about 6 years on my 2001 outback, and I haven't blown a foglight yet... and I leave them on 100% of the time. maybe I should just sell you my magic bulbs.
Yeah my 2000 with 107k the foglights are going strong and leave them on all the time as well.
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Old 10-02-2007, 04:43 PM   #9
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My 2000 GT HAS 230K and one fried light socket......I need an upgrade.
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