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Old 09-26-2007, 11:23 PM   #1
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Hi all, kicking around the idea of doing the electrical wiring on a swap car. Mainly wrx conversions in legacys. The idea i have is offering a service that takes 2 car harnesses and makes one with a swap in mind.
I've done one on my legacy sti swap so i have a good ideal of what all it takes not to mention a lot of factory service manuals for resources.

Anyway, what i'm wondering is what would all of you that are considering a swap think a service like this would be worth? I would have to have both harnesses sent to me then send the finished one back. That could add up to at least a 100 bucks in shipping.
I've seen many people do this type of stuff for honda, toyotas and a lot of different cars. Prices range pretty wide though!
So let's hear some ideas.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:36 PM   #2
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Seriously, regardless of me being interested in your harness
650 dollars is pretty fair as long as you have what it takes down pat. The hardest part of a wrx/legacy swap is the wiring and 650 is alot for a harness but definitely worth the trouble
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:09 AM   #3
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im about to pay 1k for rallispec to do it, but they are supposed to have a quick turnaround
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:44 AM   #4
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I'm charging 650 for my harness, but i'm also parting out my car and don't have a use for it either. That's the entire car harness though with the materials included.
What i'm thinking is the person supplies me with their car harness and a wrx harness and i mend the two together and make things work.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:57 AM   #5
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like i said i think it all depends on whether you can guarantee your work and the turnaround time....im going to rallispec so that it can be done quick, and if something goes wrong they will be the first people i call. Those are all things you need to consider before you price it out.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:06 AM   #6
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Good point. It would of course be gauranteed to work. I just wonder if it would be worth it to play technical support munkey for all of the other problems that arise when doing a swap. I would bet a lot of the blame would come back on the guy that did the wiring if the thing didn't fire over the first time they turned the key.
Not to mention having to answer a ton of question from people just kicking tires and wanting free info. But all good stuff, keep it comming.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:24 AM   #7
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if you would do it for 650. Then i would have you just do mine with abs instead of buying yours. Hell, id send it too you in a heartbeat for that much...
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:31 AM   #8
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Is rallispec's harness including the wrx harness, relays and controllers or just the work to merge the two together?

The ABS system is pretty much a stand alone system in the subarus. It has its own harness and there are only a couple of wires that really need to be hooked up and a couple of grounds. You could always buy my harness and then makes it work with your car.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:10 PM   #9
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Sounds like a great plan..........

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Old 09-27-2007, 12:30 PM   #10
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I think that's all in the eyes of the beholder and everybody is entitled to their own opion. Yes, swaps can suck. They can be expensive and they can turn into a huge nightmare!
I've been through several. My latest a complete jdm version 8 sti engine/trans/brakes/suspension was expensive. Think over 15k just in parts. With my time into it, i could've and probably should've just bought a brand new sti. But, i also only paid 25 bucks a month in insurance. Licensing was cheap and was a super sweat sleeper.
So all in all it comes down to what you really want. I know one guy that has over 70k into wrx and i doubt that car will ever be "Done". So with a simple comparison my car was cheap ( and not to mention it beat the 70k wrx until he dumped another 10k into it!).

My goal is to take some of the head ache out of the process. Most people that are on this site seem like they have an interest in wrenching on their cars. Subarus for the most part are fairly easy cars to work on. So really i'm trying to see if there's a real need or want for this kind of service and if it would even be worth my time.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:34 PM   #11
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Sorry....I removed it as not to hijack your thread man.....Me no thinky welll in morning...lol
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:55 PM   #12
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No, i think you should've kept that all in there as i'm doing this to get a real word idea instead of just being off in my own little turbo land world.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:57 PM   #13
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rallispec is 1k just for the work....im providing both harnesses.....that is their pricing on the wiring for my 97 lgt and an 02 jdm sti harness fyi
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:02 PM   #14
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Wow! That is money for sure.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:10 PM   #15
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yes sir....but im just looking for it to get done quick and have someone to bitch at if it doesnt work
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:28 PM   #16
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I think eastcoast swappers does it for 800 or 900.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:29 PM   #17
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ECS charges $900 for the labor as well. The wiring is the biggest hassle in swapping any subaru. It's even harder on the Legacy because few people do it, so someone who can specialize in these cars and back it up would be a lifesaver in the eyes of many.

I had a JDM v8 STi swap that I was looking into locally; the wiring was just the hard part as not even ECS says they're willing to delve into merging a JDM STi and BE harness together (i.e. it wouldn't be worth it for them to do it for $900).
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:00 PM   #18
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i havent heard too many good things about ECS harnesses, thats why i went to rallispec
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:00 AM   #19
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i havent heard too many good things about ECS harnesses, thats why i went to rallispec
really? i've heard just the opposite.. guess we get are info from different places
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a few people that ive spoken w/ who got their harnesses from ECS have had problems...thats enough for me to wnat to try a different company
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:39 AM   #21
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a quick question, if i wanted to merge, lets say a 02-04 wrx harness for my97 gt, would i need to get the same engineharness or can i get one from a 2.2L? i also noticed that the speedo is also different? would it matter? thx

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p.s i would do 650 for the harness, that's about a couple hundred cheaper then ecs or rallispec. also good that your online alot so you can help if there's any problems along the way, if any.
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:38 AM   #22
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The speedometer is only different because it's an older model, not because it's a 2.2L engine. I'd guess the difference is sorted out in the guage unit itself. But I haven't tried swapping to the 120mph speedometer, so I have no idea.
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Old 09-28-2007, 01:45 PM   #23
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You might be able to make a 2.2 harness work, but it would be way too much work and really not worth the time as you would have to add relays, controllers and all sorts or new plugs to make it work.
For what it's worth go with the engine harness that is suppose to run the engine and you'll have fewer problems in the end.
Most of the speedometers are compatible. There is a mechanical sending unit and a electronic one. All you have to do is pull one and add the other.
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