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Old 01-15-2002, 03:10 PM   #1
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Question 2nd to 1st gear down shift?

Ok trying to find the truth on this. I know that my WRX will give me fits trying to shift from 2nd to 1st unless I'm almost at a complete stop. The car only has 1200 miles so i really don't push the issue. I've read some posts on this but I'm trying to gather as much info as possible on the car. Is this normal and will the syncros break in after so many miles? What is normal break in for these cars. I'm new to the whole turbo scene but have done the following. Took it easy on the throttle for the first 1000 miles. Now I've started to raise the tack past 4000 rpm. I haven't been totally aggresive but have done some almost wide open throttle with long gaps of normal driving. Took it on the highway and did some 40 mile 80 mph trips. So far the cars runs great and i can feel it getting stronger. The gas milage is not great but i didn't buy it for that. also there is a fair amount of pull when breaking. funny thing is it will pull both to the right and the left. I also have had a minor adjustment to the allignment throught the dealer but it seems like the steering wheel is still not centered. I've checked air pressure for all 4 tires. Any suggestions are appreciated.
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Old 01-15-2002, 03:14 PM   #2
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the 1st gear downshift issue:

THIS IS NORMAL!!! I don't know why everyone makes a big issue out of it!!! My WRX does it, my old S2000 did it, my old Civic Si did it, my brothers Civic EX does it, my friends 2.5RS does it, my friends WRX does it.....
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Old 01-15-2002, 03:17 PM   #3
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I don't want to be like everyone else

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Old 01-15-2002, 03:33 PM   #4
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Master the art of the DOUBLE CLUTCH. I did and I will never go back.

Makes the car much more fun to down shift.

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Old 01-15-2002, 04:25 PM   #5
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time for a stupid question. When you say double clutch it you do this by pushing the clutch in and backing it off till it starts to slip into gear and then push it back in so it goes all the way in gear?

I know I'm still a dumb newbie.
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Old 01-15-2002, 04:34 PM   #6
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I would like to know why some do and some don't. Actually I really don't care because mine doesn't........ so nevermind.
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Old 01-15-2002, 05:01 PM   #7
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Mine used to not go into 1st, now I can drop to 1st at 15mph with a blip on the gas.
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Old 01-15-2002, 05:12 PM   #8
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I don't really see a reason why you would need to drop into first for anything... Unless you really need to stop fast or something, but then it isn't even good to do that. Gerry
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Old 01-15-2002, 05:19 PM   #9
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time for a stupid question. When you say double clutch it you do this by pushing the clutch in and backing it off till it starts to slip into gear and then push it back in so it goes all the way in gear?

I know I'm still a dumb newbie.
Double clutching is when you take it out of gear and let out the clutch in neutral, blip the gas, then depress the clutch and stick it in the next gear.
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Old 01-15-2002, 05:29 PM   #10
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That seems like it would take forever if you were racing etc... what are all the advantages of double clutching aside from being nice to your tranny?
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Old 01-15-2002, 05:47 PM   #11
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Default double clutching

You will be much easier on the syncros in the tranny, as you mentioned.

You will also probably learn to heel and toe brake in the process of learning to double clutch. You will become much more aware of engine rpm.

Because your more aware of engine rpm you are less likely to buzz the engine by a poorly chosen down shift.

Just be careful, in the beginning, you are _more_ likely to buzz the engine, because you will be able to stick it in a lower gear at higher road speeds than the tranny will normally allow.

Eventually you will be able (once you learn the required RPM) to shift with out the clutch. This comes in real handy if you ever have clutch linkage problems or totally fry a syncro so your transmission becomes a "crash box"

Besides it looks like you know what your doing

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Old 01-15-2002, 06:34 PM   #12
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Tallguy, Please give us more detailed info. I know that in my car, I can shift into first at 20mph. It takes time, but eventually after a couple seconds it will go in. No noises, just resistance, then 'pop' into gear. Note:It is much harder when the car is cold, I haven't really tried it then. My car has ~10,000 miles, and I first tried around 5,000 when I first foticed a thread about this.

When you say near zero, give a reading from the speedo, like ten mph, or 'the needle is on the post'. Define 'giving me fits'; is it grinding noises, or just won't happen?

as for not going into first, it isn't normal, but it is a function of transmission quality/design. I drove a BMW 325 that could fall into fisrt gear with virtually no effort. This was concerning, as I was going about 30, and dropping into first would have been bad.

As for the pulls on breaking, since it is on both sides, I would say it is the roads. The Impreza is fairly sensitive in the steering. If you get it consistently to one side, then it switches the next day, then it might be a loose bolt somewhere.
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Old 01-15-2002, 06:53 PM   #13
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Ok what I'm talking about is resistance. There is alot more reisistance than what I like or am used too when downshifting to 1st. the only time it feels like I'm not forcing it into gear is when I'm rolling at around 1 to 8 mph. I haven't performed any kind of power shifting or clutch drops and don't intend too. I've done enough reading to know what that can lead too. I'm sure through time the syncros will wear and become easier to shift but I'm wondering if that was normal. There is NO nosie or clunking in the trans but like i said i really haven't forced the issue as the car only has 1200 miles. I've read the posts about blown gears and transmissions and am trying to aviod that situation at all cost Warranty or not.
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Old 01-15-2002, 06:55 PM   #14
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Default big gap on 1-2 shift

Its mostly a function of the wide gap on the 1-2 gear ratios. With a closer gear spacing you wouldn't notice it.


I have a description of the process in this thread.

http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthr...hreadid=134917

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Old 01-15-2002, 08:53 PM   #15
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I'm guess I'm lucky, mine shifts into first just fine.
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Old 01-15-2002, 09:03 PM   #16
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I don't really see a reason why you would need to drop into first for anything... Unless you really need to stop fast or something, but then it isn't even good to do that. Gerry
how abt in stop and go traffic (New york city).. abt to come to a complete stop and then the light changes or the car ahead of u starts moving? Stepping on second wud make the car shudder.

Another thing I've noticed abt the wrx is the throttle response is very slow

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Old 01-15-2002, 09:04 PM   #17
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That seems like it would take forever if you were racing etc... what are all the advantages of double clutching aside from being nice to your tranny?
When you used to it, you can do it very fast, a lot of people in rallying are doing it, it only take half a second max to do it.
You have to do it when using a dog box and with your current gear box, it will save your syncros.
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