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Old 10-01-2007, 10:48 AM   #1
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did my 2nd solo event this weekend. didn't know what class to put myself in, so i asked and got put into STU.. only there were a total of three people competing in that class, so it wasn't SO competitive.

however if i had put myself into STX, where there were tons more people, i wouldn't have had a chance because i get the impression that STX is a real money-pit of a class.

so i'm curious what kind of classes are good and competitive, but allow for minimal modifications to the car.. that is to say, what class focuses much more on the driver than on the car?

fwiw the wagon currently has: rear sway bar & mounts, coilover suspension, brake pad/rotor/line upgrade (stock calipers & rotor size though), ZERO engine/breathing/ECU mods.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:53 AM   #2
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STU is for the 2.5

STX is for the 2.0

you haven't seen money pit until you've run R compounds on a Subaru

your car is an STX car.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:54 AM   #3
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STU is for the 2.5

STX is for the 2.0
so why the hell did they put me in STU in the class with me was a BMW 328i and another WRX..
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:54 AM   #4
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You should be STX legal as you sit right now. Like GTF said, if you change the boost at all, you get kicked up to at least SM.

Get some 17" wheels with RE0R1s or 615s and get some seat time.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:55 AM   #5
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so why the hell did they put me in STU in the class with me was a BMW 328i and another WRX..
You can't expect them to know exactly what every car goes into. That's your job. 06-07 WRXs do have to run in STU.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:56 AM   #6
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You should be STX legal as you sit right now. Like GTF said, if you change the boost at all, you get kicked up to at least SM.

Get some 17" wheels with RE0R1s or 615s and get some seat time.
actually I like the gearing of running RS wheels and Shorty Azenis back in the day...
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:57 AM   #7
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actually I like the gearing of running RS wheels and Shorty Azenis back in the day...
Yep, that's not such a bad idea either. I just wouldn't want to have to shift to 3rd...depending how wide open the course was setup.

Alacricat...read this:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174189
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:59 AM   #8
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most courses up here in NE aren't fast enough to worry about 3rd gear, even if you ran small wheels. We don't have big open parking lots, for some reason. Maybe frost heaves...
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:59 AM   #9
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If you mess with the boost you'll be put into street prepared, not street modified.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:00 AM   #10
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If you mess with the boost you'll be put into street prepared, not street modified.
True.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:10 AM   #11
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whatever you do, dont go the motorsports thread and make sure you stay out of the massive sticky at the top and for the love of pete do not under any circumstances click on the autox rules thread.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:13 AM   #12
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Just go in fully stripped, R-tires, full suspension, engine swapped, and check off the stock class box on the card.

I have seen this happen before.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:17 AM   #13
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Someone in a mostly stock STI at the Subaru Challenge registered in E mod...that was interesting.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:19 AM   #14
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Someone in a mostly stock STI at the Subaru Challenge registered in E mod...that was interesting.
if it was gutted it's an E-mod car
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:21 AM   #15
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whatever you do, dont go the motorsports thread and make sure you stay out of the massive sticky at the top and for the love of pete do not under any circumstances click on the autox rules thread.
wasn't planning on it, but thanks.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:34 AM   #16
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Depends on the region, STU is just if not more competitive than STX in the DC region. You are STX and that is a good place to run.

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did my 2nd solo event this weekend. didn't know what class to put myself in, so i asked and got put into STU.. only there were a total of three people competing in that class, so it wasn't SO competitive.

however if i had put myself into STX, where there were tons more people, i wouldn't have had a chance because i get the impression that STX is a real money-pit of a class.

so i'm curious what kind of classes are good and competitive, but allow for minimal modifications to the car.. that is to say, what class focuses much more on the driver than on the car?

fwiw the wagon currently has: rear sway bar & mounts, coilover suspension, brake pad/rotor/line upgrade (stock calipers & rotor size though), ZERO engine/breathing/ECU mods.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:35 AM   #17
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did my 2nd solo event this weekend. didn't know what class to put myself in, so i asked and got put into STU.. only there were a total of three people competing in that class, so it wasn't SO competitive.

however if i had put myself into STX, where there were tons more people, i wouldn't have had a chance because i get the impression that STX is a real money-pit of a class.

so i'm curious what kind of classes are good and competitive, but allow for minimal modifications to the car.. that is to say, what class focuses much more on the driver than on the car?

fwiw the wagon currently has: rear sway bar & mounts, coilover suspension, brake pad/rotor/line upgrade (stock calipers & rotor size though), ZERO engine/breathing/ECU mods.
Personally, I think that you're in a class of your own.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:35 AM   #18
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i used to run STX when it was a new class. it was competetive then, and still is. Relatively wide range of cars too, which is kinda cool and kinda not cool at the same time.
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Just run ESP, that's where all the cool kids are at.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:42 AM   #20
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this has always confused me as well...especially when you are at the registration table and the people running the event are arguing what class you should be in...

Do the SCCA classifications differ from other motor sports groups ?
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this has always confused me as well...especially when you are at the registration table and the people running the event are arguing what class you should be in...

Do the SCCA classifications differ from other motor sports groups ?
yup...

bottom line.....find your stock class, then follow the path laid out in the rulebook based on your mods.....it's not very difficult...
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yup...

bottom line.....find your stock class, then follow the path laid out in the rulebook based on your mods.....it's not very difficult...
Hmmm...it's probably the lack of a rule book that is my issue...

I just like to drive fast...can I run in the "I don't care what class I am in just let me drive" group...
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Hmmm...it's probably the lack of a rule book that is my issue...

I just like to drive fast...can I run in the "I don't care what class I am in just let me drive" group...
that's where I run. This weekend I ended up in sts2 or something like that, I think.
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In what car? STS2 is a NASIOC moderator friendly class, generally.
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