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Old 10-01-2007, 01:17 PM   #1
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Default Anybody NOT replace head unit?

Just curious if anyone has upgraded their stereo but not replaced the stock head unit?

I'm really concerned about drawing attention to an aftermarket setup by replacing the head unit, but was wondering what people's experiences are leaving it in and swapping out the speakers and a sub?

I don't listen to the radio (since I got the windows tinted I get a ton of static) and mainly use it for CD's burned from iTunes or the Aux iPod input. And I'm not sure if I believe in something like a Rockford 3sixty; not sure how it can take a lesser quality signal and make it better for that cost...

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Old 10-01-2007, 01:20 PM   #2
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One of the stickies or FAQ posts I just read recently had a section in it about the radio producing static after getting your windows tinted. Search in the Car Audio forum for "tint" or something similar and it should get that thread for you.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:27 PM   #3
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One of the stickies or FAQ posts I just read recently had a section in it about the radio producing static after getting your windows tinted. Search in the Car Audio forum for "tint" or something similar and it should get that thread for you.
Yea, I had no idea that the tint had caused it until I saw that thread. I'm not worried about fixing it, I can only take hearing Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake so many times
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:35 PM   #4
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I'm still running the stock radio and my windows are tinted 35% all the way around, and I have not noticed any difference in radio sound quality.

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Old 10-01-2007, 03:16 PM   #5
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if you run the stock head unit you will want to run something like an rf 3sixty.2 or jbl ms8 to get decent control and getting rid of the bass reducing circuit.
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:54 PM   #6
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Yea, I had no idea that the tint had caused it until I saw that thread. I'm not worried about fixing it, I can only take hearing Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake so many times
Don't lie...we know that's all you listen to.

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My windows are tinted 35% and I don't have any issues with regards to reception.

I myself plan on replacing the speakers and keeping the factory deck.
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Old 10-01-2007, 03:59 PM   #7
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Im running stock speakers on a JL 12w7 subwoofer and infinity speakers. The sub bangs pretty hard if I turn the gain up on the amp, but I feel like the bass reducing circuit on the stock headunit is really holding it back. Replacing the speakers didnt really help much since they are still running off the stock headunit
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:50 PM   #8
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I have static, but I also have 5% tint all around.
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:54 PM   #9
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I'm still running the stock radio and my windows are tinted 35% all the way around, and I have not noticed any difference in radio sound quality.

Completely depends on the type of tint used. Film based and ceramic based tint has little to no impact on the reception...metallic based tint on the other hand kills it.

Major issues with the stock radio. So so, electronics internally, horrible bass reduction EQ setup (you increase the volume it cuts down the signal in the low end), disks getting jammed up, occasional shutting off and well, it's stock

For the cost of getting an external DSP you can get yourself a very nice aftermarket unit that can do almost if not all of the same things but get rid of the terrible Auto EQ deal that the stocker has. Only way to truly remove it from the stock unit would be an external DSP that allows you to plot your EQ against volume so you can set it up to stay consistent. Unfortunately none of the ones out today allow that from what I've been able to find.
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:23 PM   #10
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I've experimented with using a stock head unit, but always broken down and stuck a pioneer Premier unit in it's place. Go to Crutchfield and they can hook you up with a dash kit, when you get it, put in your e-bay special HU (I got my $400 Premier unit for $190 shipped), then epoxy the mount in place (those little metal tabs are wimpy). For a finishing touch, I screw the HU into it's mount so the quick removal tools every thief carries won't do them any good. Finish the whole set out with a Viper SST one mile range security system and now your talking! (I'm currently running the Infinity Reference series components front and back with a 4-channel infinity reference series amp)
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:41 PM   #11
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ummm Impreza's are ISO DIN so why would you use a dash kit and epoxy anything? Unscrew old one...attach old brackets to new HU and you're done.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:30 PM   #12
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thats weird i have 2.5% tint all around and dont have any static. at least none i've ever noticed. hmmmm i might have to listen more carefully tomorrow
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:41 PM   #13
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again, completely based on the type of tint used. Why is that everyone misses that HUGE detail????
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:51 PM   #14
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thats weird i have 2.5% tint all around and dont have any static. at least none i've ever noticed. hmmmm i might have to listen more carefully tomorrow
....2.5% tint do you have to drive with your windows down at night?
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:59 PM   #15
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again, completely based on the type of tint used. Why is that everyone misses that HUGE detail????
It only matters on the back glass, since that's where the antenna is (04 and newer). You can put any type of tint you want on the side glass, but if you put a metallic tint on the back glass it will block out your AM reception. There should be no (or very little) problem with FM. On my WRX, I have metallic tint on the side and factory tint on the back (JDM dark tint) and have no problems. On my LGT I have metallic on all the glass. The FM is fine, but the AM is useless.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:12 AM   #16
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....2.5% tint do you have to drive with your windows down at night?
ehhhhh i have been driving with tint that dark for like 5 years now... my s10xtreme had it, then my silverado..

i have super sensitive eyes to sun light and have a doctors note for it, so if a cop pulls me over i show him that and im supposed to ok.. at first though i had to roll down the windows to back into parking spots cuz i couldnt see anything but now im so used to it. lol.

heres a 6pm picture of it


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again, completely based on the type of tint used. Why is that everyone misses that HUGE detail????
no i totally understand, thats the only reason i posted.. i have the gunmetal tint which they made me sign a waiver for saying i may lose radio connectivity and what not with it.....

then it wasnt dark enough and let too much light in so i doubled it :evil:
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:22 AM   #17
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Default Basic Upgrade with stock Head Unit (Radio)

If you want a stock stereo with upgraded sound there are several options. First an LOC (lin out converter) speakers wires in, power in (some models) RCA out. Hook up an amp for your mids and tweeters, another on for your subs, upgrade the speakers to handle the new power, and you got the first basic upgrade with a stock head unit. Second, you can add a sound processor. With the money, especially with a stock head unit, cleans up the sound!!!. Or you can get sound processors that allow high level inputs (speaker wire) in, then gives you RCA's out. Again, run to amp then new speakers.
The RF 3sixty is a basic sound processor. it takes the input signal, refines it (removes distortion and refurburation (can't spell-sound waves that are there but shouldn't be), and sends a cleaner signal to your amp.
Lastly, remember speakrs are important to. RMS power is the imporant numbers!!! Make sure the RMS rating f the speaker can handle the amp otherwise you are replacing them later on. And if you put that much money into your audio, don't skimp on speaker wire, its worth it to replace it if you are running more than 50 watts RMS (some say 75, but I personally go with 50). Foam baffles act like miny boxes ad keep the back of the speaker clean, my opinion... worth it. Well I could go on and on, but this should get you started.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:31 AM   #18
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i have alpine type-r components in front and alpine coax in the rear w/ stock head unit. sound like crap cause theyre not getting enough power but sound WAY better than stock speakers so im fine with it now
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Old 10-02-2007, 04:48 AM   #19
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changing your hu will change the sound quality the most.. upgrading speakers, adding amps and subs will only add sound, not improve it
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:04 AM   #20
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changing your hu will change the sound quality the most.. upgrading speakers, adding amps and subs will only add sound, not improve it

Why is it that the one time I really need to use the Picard pic I can't find the damn link

You sir, are SOOO incorrect in your post I don't even know where to start.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:10 PM   #21
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changing your hu will change the sound quality the most.. upgrading speakers, adding amps and subs will only add sound, not improve it
...so changing from coax to component wont make a difference? no thanks. i dont wanna believe you
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:42 PM   #22
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Thanks for the opinions everyone; sorry this turned into a tint thread

I planned to upgrade speakers and get amps, but it sounds like the factory head unit just isn't going to cut it.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:53 PM   #23
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Why is it that the one time I really need to use the Picard pic I can't find the damn link
I believe it's more of a Worfable comment:
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:38 PM   #24
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Dude, that's great
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:44 PM   #25
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You could just get a Nakamichi head unit.

They have a stealthy look with amazing sound quality.

The price isnt to hard on the wallet either.
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