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Old 10-08-2007, 04:51 PM   #76
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wil ther b a 22b there? that and tarzan combind would be godly... skuba is 1 of my fav tarzan is and so is 199x scubie. dam i wish i cud c that! jun=best tuner grp eva! sry bout gramr. postd on psp.








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Old 10-08-2007, 10:21 PM   #77
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Why all the hood scoops if everyone is running Front Mount IC's ? I would think a gapping hole is just going to introduce drag at speed?
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:29 PM   #78
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Most of those are intended to let heat out of the engine comp. Ever seen a ALMS car? Most of them even have those slots on top of the fenders.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:06 PM   #79
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I think whoever wins is going to go over to japan and lay the smack down. Not even kidding. Im pretty confident that at this point, the american way of modding Japanese cars has surpassed the japanese tuners. I whole heartedly believe this. The aftermarket parts industry in america alone DWARFS the volume in japan. Without america's market many of those "crazy japanese tuning shops" wouldnt even exist anymore. On top of that we have all these huge forums for information sharing, a SLEW of great vendors, a ton of of people getting out there building race cars, show cars, hardcore street cars they just cant touch its volume.

im very excited to see how this ends up playing out

but we def got somthing to be proud of, and nothing to be scared of

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Old 10-09-2007, 01:10 PM   #80
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I think whoever wins is going to go over to japan and lay the smack down. Not even kidding. Im pretty confident that at this point, the american way of modding Japanese cars has surpassed the japanese tuners. I whole heartedly believe this. The aftermarket parts industry in america alone DWARFS the volume in japan. Without america's market many of those "crazy japanese tuning shops" wouldnt even exist anymore. On top of that we have all these huge forums for information sharing, a SLEW of great vendors, a ton of of people getting out there building race cars, show cars, hardcore street cars they just cant touch its volume.

im very excited to see how this ends up playing out

but we def got somthing to be proud of, and nothing to be scared of

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Well put. I can't wait for this!
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:30 PM   #81
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I think whoever wins is going to go over to japan and lay the smack down. Not even kidding. Im pretty confident that at this point, the american way of modding Japanese cars has surpassed the japanese tuners. I whole heartedly believe this. The aftermarket parts industry in america alone DWARFS the volume in japan. Without america's market many of those "crazy japanese tuning shops" wouldnt even exist anymore. On top of that we have all these huge forums for information sharing, a SLEW of great vendors, a ton of of people getting out there building race cars, show cars, hardcore street cars they just cant touch its volume.

im very excited to see how this ends up playing out

but we def got somthing to be proud of, and nothing to be scared of

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I've been living in japan for for years and I think that I'm pro-japan,but in the other hand I just couldn't agree more with what you are saying!! unfortunately your statement is very true!!
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:33 PM   #82
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Why all the hood scoops if everyone is running Front Mount IC's ? I would think a gapping hole is just going to introduce drag at speed?
Some people put oil and or transmission coolers behind the scoop. Def still serves a functional purpose in that scenario.

Even if you aren't running that part, the cooling of the engine bay might outweigh the downside of drag creation at speed. Depends alot on the track I would think.
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:31 PM   #83
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man, looks like we should build a time attack Subaru doesn't it.

I wish Mitsu would do something like this. I would LOVE to take our time attack EVO to Japan to mix it up with the locals.

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Old 10-09-2007, 02:43 PM   #84
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man, looks like we should build a time attack Subaru doesn't it.

I wish Mitsu would do something like this. I would LOVE to take our time attack EVO to Japan to mix it up with the locals.

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they do have a mitsu vs subaru event!!
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:57 PM   #85
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http://www.superstreetonline.com/fea...m_vs_usdm.html

Eric Hsu might finnaly be proven right

"The fact of the matter is that Americans have more ingenuity and it's easier to race in America. Because of this and the American do-it-yourself mentality, you have a superior general knowledge base of racing and racecar parts which are simply more affordable and accessible. However, when it comes to tuning, I would have to say on the whole JDM tuners are better than American tuners. There are some serious hack shops in the US and I'm definitely not proud of that. I will say USA all the way when you talk the best USDM vs. the best JDM tuners.

A perfect example of JDM vs. USDM tuning: our daily driven 580whp R34 GT-R that came out to a Time Attack a couple years ago. We were 0.1 seconds slower than the Signal R34 GT-R with 750whp, full cage, no interior and a sequential transmission. Both cars were driven by Tarzan so you can't say it was a driver issue. That's when I first learned that JDM tuning is just hype. Look at all the Spoon cars that come to the states-a f*@$ing joke."

-Eric Hsu taken fromt he above article.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:06 PM   #86
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they do have a mitsu vs subaru event!!

really? details? You have sparked our interest.

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Old 10-10-2007, 12:27 AM   #87
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http://www.importtuner.com/events/07...eza/index.html
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Old 10-10-2007, 07:12 PM   #88
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So which cars finished in the top 3 at both events held and are now eligible for Tsukuba. Virginia and Miller motorsport?
Good question. The strange thing is, I think this contest was just recently announced, but the Miller Motorsports event was back in April! The VIR event was just recently, and unfortunately I couldn't make it. Official results aren't posted yet but I'd speculate that TopSpeed was the fastest Subaru at the event. Regardless of what the rules say, I think this is going to be a winner take all, Fastest Subaru at Laguna Seca event, scenario. Maybe they are going to have some kind of runoff of the fastest Subarus to hype it up. That's all I can figure. The rules are vague.
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Old 10-10-2007, 07:36 PM   #89
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i gotta say im rooting for element tuning all the way....plus i can say i know the guy and that makes me even more of a fan
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Old 10-10-2007, 07:36 PM   #90
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really? details? You have sparked our interest.

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its called 5 laps at tsukuba.. every year they have the top subaru's vs. the top mitsu's... and time attacks for each car as well.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:31 PM   #91
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Hi, I think I might have time to go, but Laguna Seca's site doesn't have this on their event schedule. What's admission price? I have to ask first since everything up there is so overpriced. If I go I'l bring the camcorder for sure!

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Old 10-11-2007, 01:38 PM   #92
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Hi, I think I might have time to go, but Laguna Seca's site doesn't have this on their event schedule. What's admission price? I have to ask first since everything up there is so overpriced. If I go I'l bring the camcorder for sure!

Here's the event info. Admission should be $20.

http://redlinetimeattack.com/index-6laguna07.htm
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Old 10-11-2007, 02:01 PM   #93
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awsome, thanks.

So who here from SoCal is going... besides me!
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i think they need to allow all subarus dispite the class that they're registered in be a part of the challenge. What if a street car just comes out and has fast enough times to compete with the unlimited cars? IMO, the cars should not be limited to a class, it should just be the fastest subies that qualifies...
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:55 PM   #95
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What company makes that body kit (if comes as a body kit)!???

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Old 10-17-2007, 05:10 PM   #97
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i think they need to allow all subarus dispite the class that they're registered in be a part of the challenge. What if a street car just comes out and has fast enough times to compete with the unlimited cars? IMO, the cars should not be limited to a class, it should just be the fastest subies that qualifies...
you gonna be running that weekend henry?
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Old 10-17-2007, 06:04 PM   #98
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i think they need to allow all subarus dispite the class that they're registered in be a part of the challenge. What if a street car just comes out and has fast enough times to compete with the unlimited cars? IMO, the cars should not be limited to a class, it should just be the fastest subies that qualifies...
There is no possible way a street car will be anywhere near the unlimited times so it doesn't matter. You would need an incredible amount of HP just to overcome the fact the unlimited cars run on slicks and street cars are limited to street tires. So it is really a non issue.
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Agreed. Even with the HP required to keep up, you would have some serious traction issues and trouble putting the power to the ground on street tires. I don't think any street class cars will keep up with the unlimited class cars. They never do if you keep track of event results or attend events. Just doesn't happen.
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you gonna be running that weekend henry?
Yes i will be attending that event. I will not miss this chance to perhaps show ppl that you CAN setup a street car to go up against the golith cars of the unlimited class.

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There is no possible way a street car will be anywhere near the unlimited times so it doesn't matter. You would need an incredible amount of HP just to overcome the fact the unlimited cars run on slicks and street cars are limited to street tires. So it is really a non issue.
well, to compete in street class, you DO have to run street tires, but that doesnt mean you cant change out your tires for the Unlimited class. I do have to admit that it's a very ambitious goal, but still possible to try.

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Agreed. Even with the HP required to keep up, you would have some serious traction issues and trouble putting the power to the ground on street tires. I don't think any street class cars will keep up with the unlimited class cars. They never do if you keep track of event results or attend events. Just doesn't happen.
you both have a really good point, but... take a look at this...

Results from April Redline time attack at buttonwillow:

Unlimited Class AWD:

1 Place 1:50.383 Brian Lock GST Motorsports Impreza L
2nd Place 1:51.697 Gean Sigal The Speed Gallery 996 Turbo
3rd Place 1:53.818 Russ Warr Crawford Performance Subaru STI

Street Class AWD:

1st Place 1:58.452 Nils Leufven GSC/Robispec Evo
2nd Place 2:02.887 Jean Meynet Harmon Motive Subar
3rd Place 2:05.343 Frank Lin Mach III WRX

Look at the first place winner in the STREET class. That was done with about 400whp and with some Potenza RE-01R. So to place 3rd, he only needs to shave off less than 5 seconds... it's something i think that's do-able with some racing slicks that the unlimited class runs and some adjustments to the suspension. again, i'm not saying that it's easy, i'm just saying that they should not rule out the possibility that a street class car just MAY be fast enough with the right driver (of course) to perhaps compete with the top dogs.
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