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Old 10-08-2007, 08:41 PM   #1
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Unhappy Short Ram Intake Question?

What Brand Of Short Ram Intake Is Good For Keeping The Hot Air Out And Will Clear Front Mount Intercooler Piping?
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:20 PM   #2
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no short ram in itself is good at keeping hot air out. You'll probably have to either mod a commercially available heatshield, or fab your own.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:25 PM   #3
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short ram should be renamed hot air intake. Stick with the stock intake system.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:45 PM   #4
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K&N typhoon intake system comes with a heat shield as an option. Get it and it should block out most of the hot air.

As far as one with clearing the front mount piping...I don't know, however usually the front mounts require their own specific intakes, normally being cold air.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:49 PM   #5
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trying to figure out how he's planning on using the ' ram air effect' under a speed of 500mph??
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:04 AM   #6
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trying to figure out how he's planning on using the ' ram air effect' under a speed of 500mph??
You're confusing this with a ramjet. Totally different concepts.
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:12 AM   #7
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I'm confused as why people are telling him to keep the stocker if hes asking about a front mount....
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:24 PM   #8
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Old 10-09-2007, 12:52 PM   #9
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I'd have said ramjet if I meant ramjet.

this 'ram air effect' that people are so wanton to toss around like it's some magic power adder is just typical of how 'rice' and marketing have superceeded the laws of physics.. at 100mph,with the port in the very leading edge of the bumper, in clean air, with no bends in the CAI.. you get in the 10th of a psi range of an increase in pressure.. you'd be further ahead putting in one of those E-bay bilge fans they sell as ' superchargers '

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Old 10-12-2007, 10:23 PM   #10
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right now the car has an injen intake on it.it sucks alot of hot air but stays away from the fmic piping.what brand of intake are some of you running that clear the fmic piping and decrease hot air intake?
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nothing will decrease hot air intake if it doesn't have a heat shield around it. Best thing to do would be save yourself the $$ and fabricate your own custom heatshield that works around the IC piping.
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You're confusing this with a ramjet. Totally different concepts.
No, you have to be flying around 250kts (280mph?) to get any real compression effect, and even then it's not great until you pick up more speed. I'm a pilot and you aren't getting a "ram" effect at all if you aren't traveling at these speeds.

Your stock subie intake simply does a better job of getting colder air, and the commonly labled "short ram" intake "can" allow the engine to breathe better with possibly more airflow, but if it's significantly hotter air then there's no point, and under the hood of a subie there is some seriously hot air.
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:41 AM   #13
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will a spt intake with the heat shield clear fmic piping?
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:02 PM   #14
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will a spt intake with the heat shield clear fmic piping?
I was just going to mention that. Some have gotten the SPT to fit with the SSAC fmic, but i dont know if they were able to fit the heat shield as well.
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:52 PM   #15
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thanks.maybe i will try that or fabricate a shield
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:35 PM   #16
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doesnt matter if your sucking in hot or cold, its gonna get super heated by the turbo anyways and if you are running an FMIC then that should take care of your cooling concerns. I run a greddy Short ram and works perfect, clears my intercooler piping and have had no problems with MAF readings. If you want added cooling run some intercooler squirters or a N02 set-up.
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