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Old 10-10-2007, 08:11 PM   #1
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So on a whim, I decided to give the downpipe and catback exhaust a try. Before anyone yells HERETIC for putting a $400 turboback on a $36000 car, let me explain.

The exhaust is just a stainless steel tube. A tube. All it does it take the exhaust gases from point A, and dump them out at point B.

So what if I get something "cheap" and "low quality"? The absolute worst that would happen is if there is an exhaust leak or it starts to rust. Nothing life-threatening or safety threatening.

Having said that, I purchased a SR*S catback exhaust and a SR*S downpipe.

I placed the order by emailing ebaypart@yahoo.com - within an hour I got a reply from a person named "JOHN" and he gave me a custom quote for the downpipe and catback shipped to my address for $369.99

I should mention that I payed with Paypal so there is 100% protection ifor fraud. Everything went well, and within a week there was a large nameless brown box on my doorstep.

Inside, was the catback section (a midpipe and axleback) and a downpipe, as well as a few bags of bolts, nuts, gaskets, and other small items. No real packing materials like foam or packing peanuts, but then again we're shipping stainless steel tubes, the package is probably more of a danger to other packages than itself I should also mention that everything came without a scratch.

Now here comes the install. The downpipe was easy to install, but the holes for the turbo studs were a little off, so it required a little muscle to shove into place.

I was thinking at this point, its okay, for a $120 downpipe I can deal with a little BS.

However, when the downpipe was bolted in, I looked under the hood and noticed the AC hose was touching it. Wait, no not touching the downpipe, but the downpipe was mashing the AC hose into the firewall. Its not a fitment problem it was more of an interference problem. Had the AC hose not touched the downpipe, I would have to get a micrometer to measure the distance from the downpipe to the firewall. Not good. I don't have any intentions to burn the firewall or run without AC.

So the downpipe was a no-go. I put that away and sat on my butt while Gruppe-S overnighted me a Helix catted downpipe.

The catback portion was pretty good. Everything bolted up without a problem, and I was impressed with the construction for the price. Even the included gaskets sealed up without a problem. The only "problem" I ran into was the muffler heatshield came in contact with the axleback canister. I drove around with it touching for about a week waiting for kartboy extended hangers to arrive. When the hangers came in, I had to use 3 Kartboy hangers and 1 stock hanger to get everything mated up. Did anyone remove the heatshield for the axleback? Any cosmetic damage to the underside when it was taken off?

Sound: The exhaust is LOUD, DEEP and SMOOTH. LOUD as in my roommates can hear me driving into the apartment complex from the turn-off half a mile away. DEEP as in it regularly sets off car alarms and sounds more expensive than it really is, without any raspyness (though with the catless downpipe, there was more rasp than with the catted downpipe). SMOOTH as in velvety buttery smooth exhaust note.

The guy I bought the exhaust parts from was spectacular, and truely the exception in internet vendors. The entire way, he was polite and answered emails very quickly. When I told him the downpipe didn't fit, he offered to replace the downpipe for free. I told him I wanted an outright refund, and the next day FedEx was knocking on my door for a package pickup. I didn't have to pay shippping back. As soon as they got the downpipe, I got a $120 refund in Paypal. I was simply flat out amazed.

Cliffs:
Downpipe doesn't fit well, touches A/C hose

Catback is great, but axleback canister touches muffler heatshield.
Used Kartboy hangers, did anyone just take the heatshield out or modify it?

Customer service was flat out amazing. I didn't need to pay for shipping to send the downpipe back.

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Old 10-10-2007, 08:23 PM   #2
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i went with the full erz and sr*s setup to. im amazed at how it turned out. as far as the ac line? i just kinda moved it outta the way, no problems there. but i do need to purchase some extended hangars because my midpipe hits the car, it didnt do that when i just had the stock dp on. the only heatshield i took off was the one for the turbo, still havent put it back on. my intake temps are usualyl only 5-6 above ambient anyways..

bottom line: every car i get in the future, im gonna look for an ebay system like this (obviously doing research first)
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:37 PM   #3
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Most people just cut the ac hose.
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:17 AM   #4
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Most people just cut the ac hose.
that's what i did
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:28 AM   #5
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I purchased a SR*S catback exhaust and I love it. Sounds just like the SPT I had on the car, except a more rumble (without the included silencer) and it fit just fine with my curtis hitch using Kartboy extra long hangers.

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Old 10-11-2007, 11:30 AM   #6
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BTW, the SR*S is mated with the Injen catless DP on a STi 06.
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:24 PM   #7
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Red got any pics of it? I bought one, but I am still waiting due to fedex damaging the first one John at nissangtrpower from ebay sent. Just for a note for everyone, I didn't even know about it until I started wondering why it was a hair late, when I contacted him he replied asap and told me what happened, that they had already shipped another one out and that they were filing the insurance claim with fedex so that I wouldn't have to and supplied me with a tracking number for the new one. So awesome ebayer right there (no I am not affiliated). Anyways, if you have some pics of the S*RS that would be awesome.
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:31 AM   #8
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Just for a note for everyone, I didn't even know about it until I started wondering why it was a hair late, when I contacted him he replied asap and told me what happened, that they had already shipped another one out and that they were filing the insurance claim with fedex so that I wouldn't have to and supplied me with a tracking number for the new one. So awesome ebayer right there (no I am not affiliated). Anyways, if you have some pics of the S*RS that would be awesome.

Interesting...I got the exact same explanation when my catback exhaust arrived but the downpipe didn't. I got tracking numbers for the catback right after the purchase but none for the downpipe (separate purchase). I questioned it a few days later and then lo and behold I got tracking numbers for the downpipe with the damaged packaging story. I'm guessing they forgot to ship the downpipe since Fed-Ex would normally allow the package to go to destination and have the receiver file the claim. It would take some massive damage to the box for them to return to sender and even then I don't believe they would. Not a big deal but would have liked to have my downpipe arrive with the rest of it. I'd prefer to be told the truth if it were a shipping mistake and just overlooked...not like I'd roast him for it, the product is exactly as described and priced right. So now instead of installing the exhaust system this weekend as planned I get to wait another week.

And John (nissangtrpower on Ebay), if you're reading this, yes, I'm still going to leave you positive feedback.
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Old 10-30-2007, 06:34 PM   #9
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Update:

Got the downpipe in today and installed the exhaust system. Common fitment issues with the A/C hose (alread fried by the stock exhaust) and had to remove the rear air diffuser to make it fit...that was a bit annoying. I guess the only way around that is to get some longer exhaust hangers. Flashed to stage II and am quite pleased. Sounds great and definitely a noticeable power difference. Overall I'm happy but would vote the product an 8 of 10 due to fitment and shipping issue.

Bottom line...TBE shipped to my door for $386.21.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:06 AM   #10
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I have been looking on ebay for these brands and have only found a catback system for SR*S ($199.00 +$50.00 S/H) and a ERZ D.P.($100.00 +$40.00 S/H) Am I correct in assuming this is the setup that is bieng installed? I have found a few complete turbo back systems which also include the U.P. & D.P.($320 +$80.00 shipping), but do not have a visible company name. Considering my budget the claimed complete setup for under 4 bills sounds like the way to go, although I have heard no mention of the U.P. I figure that if the catback exhaust and the D.P. are 3" you would want a 3" U.P. as well? Lastly, I am undecided how many cats, if any, I want to delete and wonder how many variations for these brands there are? The turbo back syster i mentioned before appears to have all stock catted locations.
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I have been looking on ebay for these brands and have only found a catback system for SR*S ($199.00 +$50.00 S/H) and a ERZ D.P.($100.00 +$40.00 S/H) Am I correct in assuming this is the setup that is bieng installed? I have found a few complete turbo back systems which also include the U.P. & D.P.($320 +$80.00 shipping), but do not have a visible company name. Considering my budget the claimed complete setup for under 4 bills sounds like the way to go, although I have heard no mention of the U.P. I figure that if the catback exhaust and the D.P. are 3" you would want a 3" U.P. as well? Lastly, I am undecided how many cats, if any, I want to delete and wonder how many variations for these brands there are? The turbo back syster i mentioned before appears to have all stock catted locations.

You're correct...it's an SR*S and ERZ setup...mine had no cats. 3" piping. I didn't need the uppipe since I've got an STi. If you've found something that looks good on ebay but you're still not sure...ask the seller lots of questions. Good luck with your purchase!
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:46 AM   #12
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That Downpipe was $120? Hmm I just bought one and put it on with my BOrla XR-1 no problems. They told me that that ac hose IS a common thing that happens. But im still going to go switch to invidia v3
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i got my ER*Z downpipe modified a bit



i highly reccomend this
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:55 PM   #14
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I purchased a SR*S catback exhaust and I love it. Sounds just like the SPT I had on the car, except a more rumble (without the included silencer) and it fit just fine with my curtis hitch using Kartboy extra long hangers.

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Well exactly how much louder was it than your SPT? Just to get an idea.
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:36 PM   #15
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Well exactly how much louder was it than your SPT? Just to get an idea.
+1

I have the SPT catback with the ERZ DP and I was something a little different...
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anybody mate the srs catback to the stock cat? i'm having fitment / leak issues there. wondering if anyones having the same prob and how to handle that.
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anybody mate the srs catback to the stock cat? i'm having fitment / leak issues there. wondering if anyones having the same prob and how to handle that.
no issues.
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anybody mate the srs catback to the stock cat? i'm having fitment / leak issues there. wondering if anyones having the same prob and how to handle that.
I don't have this exhaust, but I know exactly the problem you are running into. I have run into this on Hondas (I like both, so shoot me)

The flange on the cat is a 2.5" doughnut flange, and on the CBE it is a 3" two hole flat flange.

There are several ways to correct this.
  • (expensive) Get a new 3" DP, that will have correct flange
  • (less expensive, but a waste of money if you will be replacing your DP at some point down the road) Have a muffler shop replace the cat flange
  • (cheap) Go to your friendly neighborhood parts store and see what they have in stock for doughnut gaskets. They can be made out of either a hard, dark grey/black carbon like material; or out of a steel mesh infused with an almost waxy type substance. You want the mesh one, in 2.75" if they have it, or a 3" would probably work too. Put that in, tighten the bolts as much as you can, and then run the car to warm up the exhaust. The gasket will soften up with the heat, and conform to the flanges. While everything is still hot (sorry, don't burn yourself), tighten the bolts again. Tighten them up again in a couple of days, and you should be golden.
  • (cheap cheap cheap, and straight up ghetto, but it works) Get 3-4 regular flat gaskets, and some Permatex copper (super high temp) RTV. Make a sandwich (off the car) out of the gaskets and permatex. Put some weight on it, and let it cure. Trim off the excess permatex, and install on the car, using more permatex. Don't start the car until the permatex has cured, or the gaskets/permatex will probably just blow out.
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hey bvukich thats some great advice!

Although I dont plan on going stage 2 anytime soon, i do want to include it as a possibility in the future. with that being said, i would need to go with one of the cheaper alternativesfor now.
I dont like the idea of crushing a donut gasket in there where it doesnt fit naturally.. i think i will go with 3 flat flange gaskets sandwiched together and see what happens. thanks for the great reply!
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Can anyone chime in with regards to how these compare in fitment and quality to the SSAC TBE ?
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hey bvukich thats some great advice!

Although I dont plan on going stage 2 anytime soon...
That's the same boat I'm in. After reading this thread, and the one on clubwrx, I just bought this exhaust off ebay about 10 minutes ago. But I don't have the money for the helix catted DP I want right now, but will in a few months.
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That's the same boat I'm in. After reading this thread, and the one on clubwrx, I just bought this exhaust off ebay about 10 minutes ago. But I don't have the money for the helix catted DP I want right now, but will in a few months.

if you got it from nissangtrpower, he's pretty good about customer service. you should tell him that youre concerned about leak / fitment issues, and ask him to send you extra gaskets. also dont forget to request the exhaust with the silencer removed.
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does it not have the holes drilled for the silencer?
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yea it does but i hear its a p.i.t.a to take it off. just skip the hassle and have them remove it for you
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yea it does but i hear its a p.i.t.a to take it off. just skip the hassle and have them remove it for you
ive had 2 of the catbacks, just use a pair of pliers and tug. its not tough at all
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