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Old 10-15-2007, 04:10 PM   #1
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Default Fish or Hunt in NJ? Read this...

Firstly, I know this has nothing to do with Subaru's but thought I would spread the word. If the mod's choose to delete it then so be it.

Your freedom to hunt, fish, and trap in New Jersey may soon be taken away.

Some background:

The anti-fishing and anti-hunting activists, with the support of Assemblyman Panter, Assemblywoman Greenstein, and Senator Karcher, are responsible for introducing bills A-3275 and S-2041 respectively. These bills will drastically change the membership of the Fish and Game Council, the entity established to manage the hunting and fishing interests in New Jersey. A-3275 and S-2041 are targeted to change council membership from six sportsmen, three farmers, the Chairman of the Endangered and Non-game Species Advisory Committee, and public member - to seven political appointees recommended to the Governor.

Bills A-3275 and S-2041 would effectively destroy the Division of Fish and Wildlife, and would end scientific management of our wildlife assets while putting these natural resources under the auspices of the office of the Governor. Such a change is designed to allow the council to be stacked with anti-hunting and anti-fishing extremists.

Bill A-3275 directs the Fish and Game Council to investigate using expensive and unproven non-lethal alternatives for game management, eliminates any reference to use and development of fish and game resources for public recreation and food supply, and substitutes “wildlife” for existing statutory references to “game.”

Animal “rights” activists testifying in support of A-3275 derided hunting as a “15th century” means to wildlife management and proclaimed the bill - which relies heavily on non-lethal alternatives - as legislation for “21st century” wildlife management. They also expressed their desire to rid the Fish & Game Council of anyone with a “hunter driven background.” The council also regulates fresh water fishing. The animal rights people are coming after all anglers, hunters, and trappers. They will not be satisfied until the basic freedom to hunt, trap, and fish is removed from the state of New Jersey.

Such a change will have a devastating impact on wildlife management, New Jersey’s ecology, recreational opportunities for New Jersey residents, and New Jersey’s economy. Businesses such as sporting goods stores, taxidermists, bait shops, boat dealers, etc., and the enterprises that service these establishments, may see significant drops in sales - perhaps being forced to layoff employees or even close their businesses.

Please join in our efforts to derail bills A-3275 and S-2041 and to keep hunting, fishing, and trapping available to all of the people of New Jersey. Visit our website to learn more:
http://www.njoutdooralliance.org
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:47 PM   #2
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This hopefully will never happen, but i don't understand why these bills will take away the right to hunt and fish in NJ, it just seems that they are going to stop certain programs referring to wildlife management. I don't quite know what to think after reading this.
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:03 PM   #3
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This hopefully will never happen, but i don't understand why these bills will take away the right to hunt and fish in NJ, it just seems that they are going to stop certain programs referring to wildlife management. I don't quite know what to think after reading this.
A-3275 and S-2041 basically changes the membership of the current Fish and Game Council to political appointees. The Anti's can cherry pick the new council and push their agendas.

A-3275 eliminates any reference to use and development of fish and game resources for public recreation and food supply, and substitutes “wildlife” for existing statutory references to “game.”

Meaning Fish & Game resources would no longer be used for public recreation and food supply. References to "Game" would be changed to "wildlife". (Or for lack of better words no more recreational fishing or hunting)

No hunting...no need to call them "Game"

I don't hunt anymore but I do like to fish...It seems anymore people don't want to live in the land of the free. They would rather create laws and force other people to live based on their own personal beliefs

What's wrong with catching a few fish for dinner? But hey, it's okay to buy the frozen ones at the market or Mickey D's filet of fish?

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Old 10-15-2007, 11:27 PM   #4
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This is what I was afraid of. NJ already has a major deer problem, and to get a permit is next to impossible already. There is an over population of many animals because of those people. More reason to stay in CT with my family.

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Old 10-15-2007, 11:42 PM   #5
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these enviromentalists r getting ****ing crazy. they wonder y we have an overpopulation of deer and a rising accident rate because of it. now they want to make it higher. someone should shoot these people to make room for the extra deer. just my 2cents
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:34 PM   #6
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So this affects non-residents also then? No fish and game = no hunt/fish for anybody. Don't these people know where all the conservation money comes from???
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:10 AM   #7
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These nuts will "stop it nothing to save every last animal"

What about all of the bait & tackle stores in NJ?
What about the boating industry?
What about all the millions in revenue the state will lose?
Who will pay to maintain the wildlife refuges?

The scary part is, most people react by saying "that will never happen" but these bills have already passed the preliminary stage!

Makes you wonder what's next? will they attempt to teach carnivores to be herbivores? Oh no maybe plants should not be killed either what to do?
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:49 PM   #8
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most likely it won't pass there are still many stages before it even lands on the governors desk. remember the preliminary stage just means that it was thought up approved and put in writing. it still has to go through many stages and even voted on. and it still has to be approved by the governor which it probably won't. but never the less it shouldn't have even been thought up. these people are ****ing crazy.
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