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Old 06-13-2012, 02:05 PM   #1
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Question Torque Pro Android App - Replace Gauges?

Hey guys,

Was looking through and really didn't find much on this..

For those who do not know what I'm talking about, Torque Pro app and a Bluetooth OBDII Adaptor can show you amazing things like your boost gauge, temperatures, MPG, RPM, as well as telling you error codes and many other things.

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I was wondering if anyone actually have used these to replace your boost gauge or any other gauges? I obviously know it won't be as accurate, but for those who just want to have a general idea of whats going on in their cars, is this a useful item?

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Old 06-13-2012, 03:04 PM   #2
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I'm curious as well. It's also my understanding that your should pay more (a lot more) for the BT OBDII unit if you want the best. The Obdlink unit is far faster, not flaky, and won't drain the battery if you want to run the Torque App often.

http://www.scantool.net/obdlink-mx.html
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Old 06-13-2012, 04:12 PM   #3
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I would never rely on an Android/iPhone app to accurately monitor the health of my motor.
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Old 06-13-2012, 04:57 PM   #4
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I'm curious as well. It's also my understanding that your should pay more (a lot more) for the BT OBDII unit if you want the best. The Obdlink unit is far faster, not flaky, and won't drain the battery if you want to run the Torque App often.

http://www.scantool.net/obdlink-mx.html

Haha.. yeah I don't really want the 'best' I just want something that's functional... I got the one I linked to. I should be getting it on Friday. I guess I'll tell you guys how it is... Oh and based on the 43 reviews, didn't seem like a bad choice.. we shall see.

Was hoping someone had been using this so I could get some feedback..
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I would never rely on an Android/iPhone app to accurately monitor the health of my motor.
This.
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Old 06-13-2012, 05:18 PM   #6
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I have it, and the linked BT adapter. Works great for reading codes. I've used it twice as an OBD code reader, once for a loose fuel cap on my WRX, and another time for a bad O2 sensor on a co-workers Toyota.

Gauges are cool, but they're pretty slow. As far as I understand, the adapter won't make a difference in the display speed, because it's all dependent on the OBDII baud rate, which is pretty low. To get better response you'd need to be polling the CANBUS instead. Therefore, for boost I would recommend to stay with the old-school turbo gauge. For other gauges which don't fluctuate much, this works great. I've even been thinking of using the HDMI out adapter for my phone to pipe the video into my NAV.
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Old 06-13-2012, 05:24 PM   #7
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I have it, and the linked BT adapter. Works great for reading codes. I've used it twice as an OBD code reader, once for a loose fuel cap on my WRX, and another time for a bad O2 sensor on a co-workers Toyota.

Gauges are cool, but they're pretty slow. As far as I understand, the adapter won't make a difference in the display speed, because it's all dependent on the OBDII baud rate, which is pretty low. To get better response you'd need to be polling the CANBUS instead. Therefore, for boost I would recommend to stay with the old-school turbo gauge. For other gauges which don't fluctuate much, this works great. I've even been thinking of using the HDMI out adapter for my phone to pipe the video into my NAV.

Thank you for some actual input! I'm not sure what OBDII baud rate is but I did a quick look into CANBUS and it seems pretty interesting stuff. I'll need to do a bit more digging.

I'm still going to give it a test run to see how it does.
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Old 06-13-2012, 05:45 PM   #8
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How does that compare to Innovate's OT-2?
http://www.ot-2.com/
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:41 PM   #9
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Haha well its 36x cheaper. It seems similar in terms of application wise... I have the Torque App installed but can't do much until I receive the adapter.
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I have a 2012 WRX and I use the torque App. Everything really seems to be SPOT ON with it. I believe the newer WRXs have a fast Baud rate and I don't see hardly any lag. I'd highly recommend it and I don't plan on buying gauges anytime soon with this installed.

The only minus is the HP and Torque readings seem to be a little off showing me with 223 horse and 240 torque with my stage 2 with TBE
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Old 06-14-2012, 10:26 AM   #11
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P.S. This is ALWAYS on in my car. I have a tablet set up to run everything in my car and I leave my OBDII bluetooth transmitter in there 24/7. Never had a problem with the batter and it always connects very quickly. I'm gonna make a video here soon and I'll post it.
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I've been running Torque on my first gen Motorola Droid for a while now (2 years maybe). I've compared the data to what streams across on my Cobb AP, and it looks the same (as it should, since it's getting the same data). It's a fun app, but I only play around with it occasionally. I don't leave my Cobb AP in the car, so it's nice to know if I ever need to clear a code, I can do it with my cell phone.


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I have a 2012 WRX and I use the torque App. Everything really seems to be SPOT ON with it. I believe the newer WRXs have a fast Baud rate and I don't see hardly any lag. I'd highly recommend it and I don't plan on buying gauges anytime soon with this installed.

The only minus is the HP and Torque readings seem to be a little off showing me with 223 horse and 240 torque with my stage 2 with TBE
The torque app only reads generic OBD2 information. The high speed CANBUS information on the newer WRXs isn't being picked up. I don't think the BT adapters even have connected pins for this serial line.

Try making a Tach gauge on Torque and watching it as you give the engine a little throttle. You'll see the lag.
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Try making a Tach gauge on Torque and watching it as you give the engine a little throttle. You'll see the lag.
Exactly. I got torque (and the Kiwi BT OBD2 adaptor) initially as a cheap way to datalog my track car (a '99 Miata) but after seeing how laggy the data refresh was on the phone I abandoned that idea. It's now used to diagnose check engine lights and as a toy when I get bored on my daily commute.
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Well there it is in 'action'

Sort of impossible to drive and record at the same time so yeah..

I think it works great and have no complaints with it.
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Old 06-19-2012, 12:42 PM   #16
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damn having gauges for around $30 is a steal!! i might be interested in buying this...anyone else have any experience with this?
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Thanks for posting. Have you been able to see peak boost? Did it seem accurate? I could care less if there is a little lag in the readings. It would just be nice to have some monitoring in place until I afford to get a boost gauge and oil pressure gauge (yes, I know this doesn't do OP).
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P.S. This is ALWAYS on in my car. I have a tablet set up to run everything in my car and I leave my OBDII bluetooth transmitter in there 24/7. Never had a problem with the batter and it always connects very quickly. I'm gonna make a video here soon and I'll post it.

which battery are you worried about having issues with the OBDII bluetooth connected? the subie or phone?
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Thanks for posting. Have you been able to see peak boost? Did it seem accurate? I could care less if there is a little lag in the readings. It would just be nice to have some monitoring in place until I afford to get a boost gauge and oil pressure gauge (yes, I know this doesn't do OP).

From what I can tell I believe it's accurate.

Going WOT you can really see the boost there or if your in 5th gear (WRX) and you floor it you'll see the boost there...

It works

I also have the OBDII adapter always plugged into my car... As for my phone.. as you can see its in a car dock which is always charging
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IIRC it's not reading boost directly, it's calculating from the stock narrowband AFR sensor. I don't know how accurate it is.
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I have and use the Torque app with the Elm 327 bluetooth OBDII adapter. Have used it for a while, and I think it works pretty good. I've done visual comparisons between the torque gauge readings - and my actual gauge readings ( boost, etc) and the readings are pretty damn close. I've logged with romraider - transferred the info onto virtual dyno - and the results are pretty close to the max torque and hp readings from the Torque app.

Have used it to read, and reset codes on my WRX - my daughter's Accent - my wife's Santa Fe, etc.

There is a full website available for the Torque App - updates are continual, and the author of the software is very customer focused.

Website is : http://torque-bhp.com/

I personally do not have anything negative to say about the app

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Even more great news!

Best $35 spent ever!
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I have and use the Torque app with the Elm 327 bluetooth OBDII adapter. Have used it for a while, and I think it works pretty good. I've done visual comparisons between the torque gauge readings - and my actual gauge readings ( boost, etc) and the readings are pretty damn close. I've logged with romraider - transferred the info onto virtual dyno - and the results are pretty close to the max torque and hp readings from the Torque app.

Have used it to read, and reset codes on my WRX - my daughter's Accent - my wife's Santa Fe, etc.

There is a full website available for the Torque App - updates are continual, and the author of the software is very customer focused.

Website is : http://torque-bhp.com/

I personally do not have anything negative to say about the app

Regards,

Thanks for the info, I've been tempted to log a pull with my Tactrix and then do the same pull while logging via Torque to see how they line up (too lazy though).

If I get some motivation I'm going to build an OBD splitter with a relay, because I'm paranoid that leaving the ELM plugged in will drain down the battery (the adapter stays on even when the car is switched off).
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FWIW - I pull the adaptor every time I turn the car off
Have no proof of any battery drain...
Just what I do

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Old 06-24-2012, 09:41 PM   #25
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I've been using the torque app and I love it and it's pretty cool but it is kind of slow no matter what phone I have used it on. started with a HTC Droid Eris up to my Galaxy Nexus . Also boost never seems very accurate , for awhile I thought I had a boost leak of some sort because it always seemed to be reading low then I installed an actual boost gauge and everything is good .
I will give one thing a pretty good rating as far as accuracy and it's AFR it's almost always in line with what my wide band says which I was surprised

I use it pretty regularly to monitor temperatures more then anything and clear codes when I rarely get them all in all best $30 I've spent
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