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Old 10-24-2007, 04:28 PM   #1
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Okay. I already read (skimmed) the FAQ and didn't find any quick answers to my questions.

I work at a Ford dealership and someone just traded a 97 Legacy L (I think) w/ 5 speed and 140k miles. They are the first owner and have ALL the records from each maintenance done at the Suby dealer....

I can buy this car for $2200-2300. Should I buy this car with the intentions of keeping it a year (or after ski season) and flipping it.

Is there anything I should look for? Does it have the Boxer engine? Can I bolt of any WRX parts such as exhaust, springs, etc.?

Any quick information would be helpful.

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Old 10-24-2007, 04:48 PM   #2
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To answer your questions in the order they were asked:

I don't know, not really, yes, it depends but mostly yes.
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:09 PM   #3
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Thanks...quick answers to quick questions! I appreciate it....

Does anyone have any idea of what this car is worth...private seller...I've got a black book, but if this car is as nice as it has been described-the book won't apply.

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Old 10-24-2007, 06:02 PM   #4
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Is it a sedan or wagon? If a wagon, private seller would at maximum get double what you are going to buy it for. I'm having the hardest time finding an L with under 150k in good shape for under $3500. Sedan may be slightly less.
So, I'd say you'd break even maybe even make a profit if you keep the miles low and keep up with the maintenance.

If you have all records, see when the timing belt was replaced, and visually check the boots of the CV axles for tears. Be sure brakes are in working order.

Every Subaru has the boxer opposed 4 or 6 engine.

You can't directly bolt on WRX engine parts, different series engine, but with minor modification, exhausts will work and some suspension upgrades will work as well, but you will see there is some aftermarket for suspension for the Legacy.
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:57 PM   #5
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Thanks man...and its actually a 98...we'll see when it gets here tomorrow. The lady that drove this car was a wife of a professor here in town. I can't wait to see this car tomorrow. Timing belt was done at 120k.

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Old 10-24-2007, 10:19 PM   #6
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Every Subaru has the boxer opposed 4 or 6 engine.
Wrong.
The first Subarus imported by Malcom Briklin into the US in the late 1960ies, had 2 cylinder motors (basically not much more than a motorcycle engine). Then in the late 1980ies through early 1990ies, Subaru sold the "Subaru Justy" which featured a transverse (sideways) in-line 3-cylinder 1200 CC motor (I believe manufactured by Suzuki).

EDIT: I think this is the same motor that was in the early "GEO Metro" sold by General Motors, as well as in the "Suzuki Swift".
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:49 AM   #7
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Yeah and there are those Kei cars that Subaru produces in Japan that I don't think have boxer engines either - but those aren't imported to the US. But yeah, it is rather amazing how for those 2 minor exceptions mentioned, for the US market Subaru has done a better job of even Porsche in being boxer-only.
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:16 PM   #8
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Check and see if/ when the Head Gaskets were replaced. It should be a 2.5L being a 98 and they are notorious for H/G failures.
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:41 PM   #9
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Check and see if/ when the Head Gaskets were replaced. It should be a 2.5L being a 98 and they are notorious for H/G failures.
Sorry to keep correcting you here Calgearhead... but I believe you are wrong again.

The original poster stated that the car was a "97 Legacy L (I think) w/ 5 speed and 140k miles". However even if it was a 1998 Legacy L, it is worth stating that the 2.2 Litre motor was used in all Legacy L models prior to Model year 2000 (in the USA and Canada). While it is indeed true that the EJ22 2.2 liter motor does from time to time also experience some small percentage of head gasket failures, the number of failures with this engine is actually rather small, and it is not at all notorious for head gasket failures.

The early 2.5 liter motor used mostly in the Legacy GT, and Outbacks models were the ones to experience the higher than normal rate of head gasket failures.
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Old 10-25-2007, 10:11 PM   #10
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Sorry to keep correcting you here Calgearhead... but I believe you are wrong again.

The original poster stated that the car was a "97 Legacy L (I think) w/ 5 speed and 140k miles". However even if it was a 1998 Legacy L, it is worth stating that the 2.2 Litre motor was used in all Legacy L models prior to Model year 2000 (in the USA and Canada). While it is indeed true that the EJ22 2.2 liter motor does from time to time also experience some small percentage of head gasket failures, the number of failures with this engine is actually rather small, and it is not at all notorious for head gasket failures.

The early 2.5 liter motor used mostly in the Legacy GT, and Outbacks models were the ones to experience the higher than normal rate of head gasket failures.
Cool, I did not know that. Thanks for the information.
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:16 AM   #11
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So here is the long and the short of it...

I can buy this car for $2468 out the door. The car needs two little places on the front and rear bumper sprayed (probably too deep to buff). After that, this car is a 9.7 out of 10 for a car of this age and miles.

Those who know the prices on these cars....do you think I can drive this car for 3-5 mos. and make a thousand or two dollars? Assuming no large maintenance issues? The previous owner was meticulous in his maintenance of the vehicle-it was his wifes car.

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Old 10-26-2007, 01:07 PM   #12
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You could probably make a grand, but two might be hard. It is an L, after all. I'd prefer the gt or the outback. However, you won't LOSE money, so I'd say "do it".
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:08 PM   #13
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You won't lose money. Just don't put $ in modifications into it if you intend to sell it later--it'll be worth less.

Also, getting more than a thousand in profit would be ripping someone off soemthing fierce. Similar to what I did to my dealer when I got my current car.
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