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Old 10-29-2007, 01:22 AM   #1
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Default Snowboarding noobie .. Help!

Hey everyone, I was talking to some friends and they invited me and my gf to go with them for the winter. I was wondering if it would be better for me to go and just rent everything, or buy the gear. I know that the only way to determine this is by choosing to go once or to make this a seasonal thing.

I've never gone snowboarding before and I've always wanted to. I don't know if I'll keep going or not but .. I just would like your opinions.

Also, how much would it cost me to buy gear/rent gear? I was listening to the radio and there was an advertisement for cheap gear because it was all on sale and what not ..

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Old 10-29-2007, 01:32 AM   #2
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Rent, make sure you like it before spending a ton of money on gear. snowboarding is exspensive! If you want quality gear you are gonna be up around $1000. to rent a snowboard/bindings/boots it will probably be around $35. then just borrow some friends outerwear.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:37 AM   #3
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you probably wont have all that much fun the first couple times you go, but after you get better, it becomes a very addicting activity
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:37 AM   #4
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Rent, make sure you like it before spending a ton of money on gear. snowboarding is exspensive! If you want quality gear you are gonna be up around $1000. to rent a snowboard/bindings/boots it will probably be around $35. then just borrow some friends outerwear.
Ditto.

Definately rent. After the first 1/2 day, you might be ready to give it up. Ride, rent, learn, figure out if it's your winter sport or not...it's not for everyone. I like it more than skiing, 'cept for the clipping in/out which is a pain.

If you decide to buy, go to your nearest ski swap, saving TONS of cash. You might have to wait 'till next year, since they often occur in October. Be sure you know what to look for before you buy, or better yet, take along a knowledgeable friend.

Good luck, and keep your downhill edge UP!
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:40 AM   #5
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Would these gloves/Jacket be good? I was kind of planning to buy these anyways and was wondering if these would be good with for snowboarding .. If these are, I'll probably buy them because they are the deal sealers ..

I already have a North Face jacket as well ..

http://www.landsend.com/pp/Gloves~16...RCH=SRCH_00001

http://www.landsend.com/pp/Weatherfi...&origin=search
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:43 AM   #6
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I have barely used cheap board bindings/ boots pending what size you wear if you're interested!
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:48 AM   #7
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I dunno...I wouldn't go for those gloves...they're not a bad backup for the price, but keep this in mind for gloves.

1) Mittens are warmer, and snowboarders can get away with using them since they don't use poles.
2) PNW skiiing gloves should have a waterproof shell, like Gore-Tex.
3) Try to get gloves with a longer sleeve, this prevents snow from getting shoved into you glove, and helps keep your wrists warm.


On the jacket...it might be too thick if you're using a shell over it. I'd use the waterproof shell and then thin layer(s) of fleece and polyprop. shirt.

Just my 0.02. But if you in a crunch, definately get these if the alternative is being cold and only having expensive ski-resort clothes to choose from.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:55 AM   #8
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That lands end stuff doesn't look very waterproof, but it will work. I'm just thinking back to the days when I was learning, falling and getting snow up my jacket all the time. Theres nothing like being soaked on the hill, COLD lift ride back up. Oh and use a helmet too, they are comfy, warm and keep the brains inside.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:55 AM   #9
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sorry, those gloves and jackets are made for snow ball fights.
boraderline or snowboard connection in bellevue are prob the closest big shop by you, go in there and talk to one of the sale staff and have them hook you up with real gear.
if you decided that snowboarding is for you, then spend lots of time trying on all kinds of boots, boots will make or break your day.
"just got done working at the ski fever, had to talk to people all day about snowboarding stuff, LOL"
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:51 AM   #10
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Rent, make sure you like it before spending a ton of money on gear. snowboarding is exspensive! If you want quality gear you are gonna be up around $1000. to rent a snowboard/bindings/boots it will probably be around $35. then just borrow some friends outerwear.
Thritto (thats +1 ditto).

I rented my first time to see if I would like it, and on day two I spent lots of money on gear.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:42 AM   #11
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Rent the boots, board and bindings and buy some good pants, gloves and jacket. oh yeah rent a helmet if you can. If you like snowbaording looking into buying the stuff. When buying boots and binding are more important then the board.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:43 AM   #12
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Spend money on good gloves. You are gonna spend a lot of time on your butt and will be pushing yourself up a ton. Wet cold hands make for a very long day. Look into mitts like someone else suggested. Good pants would be good too, cause wet butt sucks donkey ballz.

Start working your triceps too cause they are gonna be sore from pushing yourself up all day.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:50 AM   #13
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if you can rent from a local shop before going to the slopes, do it.

this is going to sound funny. but if you strap everything on in your living room and rock back and forth from edge to edge, practicing your balance, it will go a long way. My second day of snowboarding I was landing 180's and doing grabs. This was thanks to my sister (a former snowboard instructor) who told me to do this very thing. Get to where you can balance yourself on your edges on the carpet for a few seconds at a time.

Then, be prepared to fall down A LOT. Sometimes it can be more frustrating than golf. Keep your knees bent, don't lock your elbows when going down, watch your wrists!

I wear a snowboarding helmet. 7 years of boarding and I still wear the helmet. One too many concussions from an improperly timed heel edge at high speed. Plus it keeps your ears warm and toasty.

Hope that helps some.

Most importantly, have fun.

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yeah living room practice is always good.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:39 AM   #15
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if you can rent from a local shop before going to the slopes, do it.

this is going to sound funny. but if you strap everything on in your living room and rock back and forth from edge to edge, practicing your balance, it will go a long way. My second day of snowboarding I was landing 180's and doing grabs. This was thanks to my sister (a former snowboard instructor) who told me to do this very thing. Get to where you can balance yourself on your edges on the carpet for a few seconds at a time.

Then, be prepared to fall down A LOT. Sometimes it can be more frustrating than golf. Keep your knees bent, don't lock your elbows when going down, watch your wrists!

I wear a snowboarding helmet. 7 years of boarding and I still wear the helmet. One too many concussions from an improperly timed heel edge at high speed. Plus it keeps your ears warm and toasty.

Hope that helps some.

Most importantly, have fun.

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I fell quite a bit when I was learning, but by the end of the day I could make it down the mountain ok without crashing. My wrist hurt for a few weeks afterward. My wrist still hurts occasionally and I wonder if I didn't do some permanent damage.

I'm thinking about picking up some wrist guards this year.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:53 AM   #16
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I dunno...I wouldn't go for those gloves...they're not a bad backup for the price, but keep this in mind for gloves.

1) Mittens are warmer, and snowboarders can get away with using them since they don't use poles.

Yeah, they may be warmer, but it sure sucks to mess around with your bindings wearing mittens. Also grab tricks can be harder with mittens.. just get a good pair of gloves. $40 will get you something decent.

2) PNW skiiing gloves should have a waterproof shell, like Gore-Tex.

Dont buy anything less than 10,000mm water-proof. our snow is wet and being wet = no fun!


3) Try to get gloves with a longer sleeve, this prevents snow from getting shoved into you glove, and helps keep your wrists warm.

And you can pretend its 1993 with those gauntlets!!! Most quality jackets will have wrist gaiters to keep the snow out. its prob harder to find a longer glove these days as that style is long dead.

when you do rent gear, try and rent from a smaller local shop. stay away from the large chain store as their rental fleet is crap! sure it might cost you a little more but its worth it for the time the shop will spend getting your setup right.


If you have any more questions feel free to ask, i've worked in the snow sports business for over 10yrs both at small shops and larger stores and prob know more about boots/bindings/boards and ourwear than i need to. I also used to instruct for 3 years
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:53 AM   #17
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the wrist gaurds are good if your going to start practicing things that may cause you to fall. I used them when i had a broken wrist and they saved me a few times even though it hurt like hell to get them on and off.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:16 PM   #18
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CN: Buy some cheap outerwear to get you through the season, do one day rentals your first 2-3 days and find a season rental if you like it after that, rent equipment BEFORE you go up to the mountain, NO STEP-INS!!!

re: outerwear, find something cheap and waterproof for your first time out. big 5? Sports Authority? If you don't like snowboarding, at least you'll have something for whenever it snows around here.

Rent equipment your first 2-3 days until you're sure you like it. If you do, go hit up a season rental. I think Sports Authority in Bellevue does this, but I'm not sure of the price. The reason I suggest this is because the equipment will be better than "On-Mountain" rental. But you won't be out a ton of money. It'll get you through the year and you'll figure out what you like and don't like about the equipment. That way you'll spend your money better next year on a setup you like at one of the ski/snowboard sales. This is what I did my first year of Snowboarding. My season rental board was too soft, my bindings pinched too much, my boots were lame. But I only spent $125 for the season and went up around 13 times. That was in the '98-'99 season. I also learned a lot more than my friends who bought high end equipment before their first day. Although I complained at the end of the season how bad my setup was, it was also a very forgiving setup that helped me earlier in the season. The stuff my friends were riding on was too advanced for them.

oh, I don't know if anyone mentioned but if you are able to rent before going up and the place is going to give you step in boots and bindings, PASS! The better option is strapping in. Sure you have to sit down every time you get off the lift, but so do just about all other snowboarders. A step-in setup is only good maybe for the first time you go. After that, forget about it. Step-in boots/bindings are like Potenza re-92s. You just don't want 'em. In fact, step-ins are so bad most companies only make them for mountain rentals, they don't dare sell them to the public.

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Wrist guards. Best thing I ever bought.

Also, as for the helmet comments earlier, I've seen studies that show that helmets are actually worse for your head if you have a lot of small, repeated falls. In the case of a big accident, you'll want to have helmet on.

I don't wear one, but I also keep myself out of any 'extreme' situations involving trees or very large jumps.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:33 PM   #20
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uh-oh, the helmet debate.

do you have links on these studies?

I wear one, I'm actually on my second one. My first one saved me a few times. It never broke, but I figured I should get a new one. One of my worst falls wasn't in an 'extreme' situation. I was on skis cruising a run, probably an intermediate level. I might have been going kinda fast, but at a speed I was comfortable with. There was a big block of snow in the middle of the run and right where I was headed. since I was on skis, I just opened my stance a little and the chunk passed between the skis. But when I was bring my skis together, something went wrong, I lost my balance and I tumbled and rolled for about 15-20 feet. There was one clear thought that ran through my head, "I just smacked the back of my head, its a good thing I'm wearing my helmet." That thought went through my head, honest. I usually get one good head impact a year. I'll take the helmet, thank you very much. Plus my new one has headphones built in. I don't think that's very safe, but still...

oh, to continue the story of my li'l tumble, after I came to a stop I checked to make sure all my limbs still worked and headed back up to my skis. On my way up, I was having trouble walking and noticed it felt a little drafty. I looked down and my pants had unsnapped and were about mid-thigh. The fall had literally knocked my pants off.

I bought a belt for snowboarding the next day.

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Wow!

Thanks a lot everyone for helpin a newbie out!

I have a Gortex jacket, will this be okay for an outerwear and just wear things inside like a couple shirts or/and sweaters?

CN: Go around small stores that do rental and rent boots and bindings separately, wrist guards, helmet

Any tips about what kinds of boards to use? Or are they practically all the same
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uh-oh, the helmet debate.

do you have links on these studies?
No, I saw it on Q13 news last season, but I can't find any links to it.

I'm not saying not to use one. I'm just saying I ride like a grandma, so I have a lot of little falls and never any hard ones.

When I get better, someday I imagine I'd probably get a helmet. Right now I still keep it to greens and maybe a blue if I'm feeling spicy.
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I'm a big helmet fan for a number of reasons: I've had some pretty bad spills that the helmet certainly helped with, if not outright kept me conscious. Two, the damned thing is strapped to my head so it never comes off, gets full of snow, and gives me a headache for the rest of the day. Finally, my goggles attach to the helmet, so they stay firmly on my face.

I agree with just smurfy about the gloves. Mittens are pretty much the superior hand covering, IMHO. They aren't that big of a deal to work bindings with, and I certainly like the longer gloves with a pull string at the top, and a tightening strap at the wrist, combined with a jacket that has a wrist gaiters. They are easy to find as they are still very very popular among snowmobilers, mountaineers, etc. I Would also suggest getting ones with removable fleece liner, makes dying much easier.
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Hey everyone, I was talking to some friends and they invited me and my gf to go with them for the winter. I was wondering if it would be better for me to go and just rent everything, or buy the gear. I know that the only way to determine this is by choosing to go once or to make this a seasonal thing.

I've never gone snowboarding before and I've always wanted to. I don't know if I'll keep going or not but .. I just would like your opinions.

Also, how much would it cost me to buy gear/rent gear? I was listening to the radio and there was an advertisement for cheap gear because it was all on sale and what not ..

Thanks for your replies!
Hey, Snoqualmie offers beginners classes. My wife took them and with in a couple of weeks she keeping up with me. I would suggest taking the classes. Gear wise, expect to pay around $800 for everything. Don't get a sweet board because your first year or so all you will do is tear it up and you wont be good enough to see or feel the results of a high end board.

I am up there every Saturday so if you want to meet up when the season gets up and running call me or email me.
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heh, there are a few people 'round here that enjoy snowboarding.

why haven't we done a meet and ride yet?

I recommend something flexible for beginners. Some of the people that have instructed may recommend something else. Just speaking from my experience. If you're renting, though, I don't know if there are many options to choose from.

I think the Gortex jacket will get you through the day. for underneath, take a trip to sports authority at southcenter and find some base layers there. Polyester stuff. I think you should be able to get tops and bottoms for ~$40. If you really want to save some dough, find it at an Army Surplus store. I got tops and bottoms for $20. They weren't very good, but it got me through a season. Throw on a t-shirt and a sweater over it and you're good. If you've got a fleece jacket that'll fit under the jacket, you could use that instead. Its always nice to unzip jackets while you're standing in the liftline. Helps you regulate your temperature.

re: your cliffnotes - you can rent them at the same shop (was confused by 'separately'), just don't rent them at the mountain if you can help it. AND NO STEP INS!!!

I sure hope winter gets here soon.

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