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Old 01-21-2002, 05:14 AM   #1
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Default new 3.0-litre Legacy sedan launched

As the title says, the Legacy B4 RS30 has been launched in Japan.

Basic info and pic. here: www.apexjapan.com

And yes, it's shameless self-promotion! Well, I know you guys in particular would be interested, because this is very likely to make it to the states/overseas.

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Old 01-21-2002, 09:25 AM   #2
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Starting at 2.75 Million Yen.

I know the conversion is pretty close... but can you imagine carrying around a couple hundred dollars worth of yen?
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Old 01-21-2002, 10:30 AM   #3
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Still just an automatic. Blech!! That doesn't bode well for Subaru ever creating a 3.0GT with a 5-speed here in the US if they didn't even do it in the home market.

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Old 01-21-2002, 10:34 AM   #4
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I'm with you, Patrick. Not only does it have the heavy H6, but it also has the intrusive traction/yaw system that makes the new Outback so unpleasant to drive for enthusiasts (who probably wouldn't be in an OB anyhow...sorry Marc, there are exceptions

I'm still hoping the turbo word is genuine. That would get a manual for sure, since it would undoubtedly be based on the WRX driveline.

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Old 01-21-2002, 11:13 AM   #5
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2,750,000.00 JPY = 20,747.28 USD

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Old 01-21-2002, 12:15 PM   #6
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Yeah, it looks a bit weak for a B4. I mean, shouldn't it have a stick (at least as an option, if not by default) and all sorts of other goodies?

I don't think any enthusiast would want the advanced computer controlled "VDC" AWD system, hopefully you can turn it off via a button on the dash like in the new outbacks. I still wouldn't want to pay for the system though, since I would never use it.

I think they should have stuck a twin turbo on the H4 and given it plenty of hood scoops.
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Old 01-21-2002, 12:50 PM   #7
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sorry guys but this doesnt do anything for me, bla bla bla auto only..... unwanted traction control, man Im afraid that when I get my next car im going to have to switch back over to a Z especially if they release a turbo which is very likely before subaru releases a high performance legacy (if ever) in the states. I cant believe they gave that the B4 badge.
Oh well
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Old 01-21-2002, 02:58 PM   #8
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I didn't realize that the VDC was now defeatable. Subaru must have gotten enough complaints/brickbats for the system's intrusiveness to do something about it. Pretty cool.

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Old 01-21-2002, 03:40 PM   #9
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[attention SOA] no interest in this one [/attention SOA]
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Old 01-21-2002, 11:16 PM   #10
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Well, I'm a stick man myself, but Subaru released it with an automatic because 75% of all B4 owners in Japan buy automatics. And their chief gripe has been lack of low-down torque. For them, the 3.0 is godsend.

I don't know if Subaru will release a 3.0 with a stick, but if they do, they may do it like Toyota has. The IS300 in the states comes with a stick option, while the Japanese version does not, auto only. Just keep plugging away at SOA, let them know what you want!

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Old 01-21-2002, 11:23 PM   #11
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has anyone figured out how to twin turbo an H6 yet? imagine that!

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Old 01-22-2002, 11:50 AM   #12
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still.... a 3.0 Legacy? sheeeeeit!
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Old 01-23-2002, 02:47 AM   #13
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Yeah, and it drives very nicely!

There may be howls about the auto etc, but most people are not the enthusiasts on here. As Paul says, there is the potential for a manual, just like they are working on a 5sp. auto. All good things take time.

Yes, the H6 is only a touch longer than the EJ20 - it is also lighter, and yes, when the time comes a turbo is likely to appear (this is Subaru of course! ).

FYI - Subaru was very interested in the 2.5 TT done by a tuning house for the autosalon. The thing is a fair monster!!

Cheers.
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Old 01-24-2002, 01:06 AM   #14
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Type Horizontally opposed high-output 6-cylinder with die cast aluminum-alloy block and aluminum-alloy cylinder heads.
Displacement 3.0 liters (183 cubic inches)
Horsepower 212 @ 6000 rpm
Torque (lb.-ft.) 210 @ 4400 rpm
Valvetrain 24-valve with dual overhead camshaft design (DOHC).
Fuel System Sequential multiport fuel injection with dual spray injectors.
Ignition System Direct ignition system; platinum-tipped spark plugs
Engine Management ECM Engine Control Module manages fuel injection and ignition systems and features learning, self-diagnosis, limp-home and antiknock capabilities.
Fuel Tank Capacity 16.9 gallons
2002 EPA Mileage Estimates
(mpg, city/highway) 20/26

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Body Construction Unibody construction with front and rear crumple zones. 77% of body sheet metal is two-sided galvanized.
Suspension Fully independent, heavy-duty raised type with coil springs. Front: lower L-arms with liquid-filled rear bushings and stabilizer bar. Rear: multi-link with stabilizer bar.
Steering Rack-and-pinion with engine-speed-sensing variable power assist.
Turning Circle, curb-to-curb 36.7 feet
Wheels 16-inch aluminum-alloy
Tires 225/60R16 97H M+S all season radials with raised white letters.
Brakes Power-assisted with dual diagonal hydraulic circuits and 4-channel/4-sensor Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS). Front: 11.4-inch ventilated discs with twin-piston calipers. Rear: 11.3-inch discs.

Drivetrain
Automatic Transmission 4-speed electronically controlled automatic with overdrive. This transmission has an automatic power mode that engages with rapid use of the accelerator pedal.
All-Wheel Drive (AWD) Full-time AWD system automatically distributes power between front and rear wheels based on traction needs. Outback H6-3.0 Sedan models have an electronically managed continuously variable transfer clutch and limited-slip rear differential.

Dimensions (Inches unless otherwise noted)
Wheelbase/Length 104.3/184.4
Width/Height 68.7/58.3
Track: front/rear 57.9/57.7
Minimum Road Clearance (at curb weight) 7.9
Headroom: front/rear 38.1/36.6
Legroom: front/rear 43.3/34.2
Shoulder room: front/rear 53.9/53.6
Curb Weight (lbs.) 3610
EPA Interior Volume (cubic feet) 91.4
EPA Trunk Volume (cu. ft.) 12.4
Towing Capacity (pounds)**(Class One) 2000
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Old 01-24-2002, 01:18 PM   #15
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Turboooo! Gimme turbo on it
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Old 01-24-2002, 03:36 PM   #16
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(mpg, city/highway) 20/26

Hmmmmmm....... worth it for the long commuter?
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