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Old 11-07-2007, 10:22 AM   #1
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Hello, which tire would be better for winter, the blizzak LM 25 or the Hakkaplita rsi? Thanks
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Old 11-07-2007, 10:54 AM   #2
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I have the Blizzacks and I love them. Alot of other guys on here have the Blizzacks also
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:45 AM   #3
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Blizzak's are the best tire for the money IMO. I've run them for 2 winters now on the WRX, and couldn't be happier...previously had them on my Sentra with the same result. Main difference is the compound, I believe the Hak's have a rough (almost like sandpaper) compound that allows for more ice traction.

Both are fantastic tires, but Hak's tend to be a little more expensive. Blizzak's can be purchased for barely over $400 for all 4.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:55 AM   #4
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I run Blizzaks on my A6 Avant ...
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:05 PM   #5
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I just picked up a set of the RSis for my wagon. No snow up here yet, so I can't offer a review yet.

You do need to consider what your typical driving conditions are during the winter. I thought the Blizzaks were designed more for ice traction (ie: they use a really soft rubber), whereas the Nokians were designed for more snow and cold temps. The RSis don't use typical soft rubber that will wear crazy fast, they use rape seed oil (no joke) to allow the rubber to be flexible even at very low temperatures. Plus they have sipes that run all the way down to the tire casing, to allow for consistent performance even if they are worn.

Either way, I'm sure you'll be happy. Winter tires plus four wheel drive = fun in the snow.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:02 PM   #6
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Hakka's rule. Most people don't really know about them so don't be surprised if you get some resistance. I am going with Hakka 4s or 5s.
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:39 AM   #7
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Are you set on just those two or are you open to other suggestions?

I ran the Nokian WRs for over 1 year. Really great winter tire. Especially if you live in PA. I'm doing some research now on other tires and am impressed with some of the alternatives.

On my Miata, I finally put Dunlop Graspic D2s on them last winter. WOW! What a huge difference. It was a great winter tire. However, it really sacrificed the Miata's at-limit handling. I had to ease up my driving in the winter (which was a smart thing anyways). But, I definitely look forward to putting on winter tires, even if there's going to be a few warmer days where the tires will suck (as far the mushy feel you get w/ a winter tire).
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Old 11-08-2007, 01:58 PM   #8
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I've run both the Nokian NRW's and RSi's on my Wagon. The RSi's were a definite step up in winter performance over the NRW's, but they can be noisy. Everyone who rode in my car swore I had bad wheel bearings. They didn't believe it was the tires until they rode in it with my summer tires back on.

In general, Nokians are over rated. Neither of the sets that I had lived up to the glowing reviews given in these forums. I'm not saying they are bad, I just don't think they are the pick of the litter.

Yes the do wear well, but tread depth isn't everything. All tire compounds harden with age. What's the point of still having tread left if the tire is 5 years old? A second set of the less expensive Dunlops or Blizzaks will perform better at 2-2.5 years of age than any single set of the Nokians at 4-5 years of age. Twice the wear does not justify twice the price, in my opinion. Fresher is better :-)

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You are right Scottie, but some people drive their cars alot, and thus even if I get 50000kms out of a winter tire, it won't last more than 2 winters. Whereas if I put on Blizzaks I would need new ones every year.

(disclaimer: I have never owned Blizzaks, I was simply refering to really soft ice tires)

Just for a different opinion, what do you feel are the gold standard in winter tires? If you didn't like the RSis maybe you could recommend a different winter for silverwrx2002.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:11 PM   #10
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This will be my third winter on LM25s and I cant wait for the snow to fly.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:26 PM   #11
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Just for a different opinion, what do you feel are the gold standard in winter tires? If you didn't like the RSis maybe you could recommend a different winter for silverwrx2002.
I didn't say I didn't like the RSi's. I just said the Nokians I have run did not live up to all the praise I've read and heard. Especially considering price. No winter tire is perfect, if it were it cost $160-$180 a piece in the 205/55R16 size.

Can't comment on "the gold standard" as I have never driven on them all back to back. Which is why it surprises me when people proclaim a certain winter tire as the best. How do they know for sure?
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