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Old 11-08-2007, 03:32 PM   #1
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I have been searching NASIOC for a while now and have been seeing mixed results on this. I was wanting to purchase some Falken Rt-615s, or perhaps some Hankook Rs2s, but I really don't want to be buying new tires ever year. I am looking for a tire that will do well at an occasional autocross, but won't disintigrate at a rediculous rate, cost being a bit of an issue. Size 225/45/17 or 235/40/17 btw. Thanks.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:36 PM   #2
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RS2's are good.

Michelins are good.

Bridgestone RE050's are good
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:37 PM   #3
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:49 PM   #4
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RS2's are good.

Michelins are good.

Bridgestone RE050's are good
Michelins, RE050's are a bit pricey.

I was thinking about the Falken 452s.

Both the Rt-615s and the Rs2's have a treadwear of 200.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:01 PM   #5
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I thought the 452's were a good daily driver but for auto-x, not impressed at all!

I ran the RS'2 for my daily driver last year and 8 auto-x events and they held up quite well considering they were about half way through their life when I got them.

Still not sure about next years season. Always seemed that I was trying to catch up with the guys running the 615's but by the end of the year I was right with them or just ahead of them. Based on the comments about how the 615's wear, I may go with the RS2's again. They feel a bit soft while racing but roll is minimal and they are very predictable.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:16 PM   #6
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WOW, didn't realize the Rs2's lasted that long. I guess I shouldn't pay so close attention to the treadwear rating. I only plan on autocrossing maybe 5 or six times a year.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:28 PM   #7
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RS2's for sure. Mine lasted a quite a while and were very streetable.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:48 PM   #8
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Hmm, the Rs2's might be what I'm looking for, plus they are 2 pounds lighter than the Falkens, not that it makes any huge difference or anything. Thanks for the input everyone!
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:00 PM   #9
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+1 on the R-S2's

I got 8201 miles out of my last set.

which included well over 200 autoX runs at 25 or so events.

seriously, I had like 57 runs through the month of october alone, and bought the tires in May..
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Don't put too much stock in the treadwear rating, it's just a number, and it's assigned by the tire manufacturer who is using extrapolated data. The tires are only run for 7200 miles before that treadware rating is "calculated". The likelihood of every tire manufacturer setting that rating using the same amount of precision or leniency when doing their calculations is pretty much nil.
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:27 PM   #11
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Yeah, I was told different tires wear at much different rates than their rating says. Seems like the Rt-615's hold true to their rating, though. Oh well.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:21 PM   #12
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I'll give a nod to the RE01R for what I've seen from them so far, although, they're not a step down from the RT-615. Wear has shown to be quite good actually, ran it for only 3 months so far plus a test and tune day with a good 30 auto-x laps. Wear has been quite minimal and even. For a tread rating of 140, I would normally expect greater wear, but it's definately not just melting away. For daily use and the occational auto-x, I could see a couple years easy from them. A full auto-x schedule plus a couple/few T&T days would probably work them down in one but you're talking a couple hundred auto-x laps.
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Old 11-10-2007, 12:03 PM   #13
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Hankook K104. Cheap, good in wet, good grip--but not 615 grip.
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kumho ecsta spt. ECSTAS , treadwear 320, 80-something dollars a piece off of tirerack.com. I had the old model ecsta 711 on my wagon when I bought it in 225/50/16. I could not break these tires loose in dry without e-braking . Also check out how the spt's stack up against 40 other popular choices in the same category... some of which im sure were previously mentioned here...
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...d00000ds....

this one has GREAT potential

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....odel=HTR+Z+III


...and the hankook z212's were ok.....they lacked in several ways and mine were DONE at ~18k miles

I now have Federal 595RS's that I like a LOT better than the z212
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nitto invos. I just put 245/40/17s on 17x8 treadwear of 200 and Ive never had a tire hook up like this. 255/40/18 on an evo 235/40/17 rt615s on my sti nothing is like these for wet/ dry grip.
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I have been searching NASIOC for a while now and have been seeing mixed results on this. I was wanting to purchase some Falken Rt-615s, or perhaps some Hankook Rs2s, but I really don't want to be buying new tires ever year. I am looking for a tire that will do well at an occasional autocross, but won't disintigrate at a rediculous rate, cost being a bit of an issue. Size 225/45/17 or 235/40/17 btw. Thanks.
^ 615s and Rs2s have very similar treadwear ratings to the INVO (in the 200s). He said money was partly an issue and he doesnt want to be buying new tires each year. At about $130 a piece, i would hope they handle well in all conditions. For that price you can get KDW's and pretty much own those invos, but again not what the thread is about... "One step below the RT-615s"
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