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Old 11-19-2007, 05:00 AM   #1
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I was wondering if anyone from the forums ever convertered there 5x100 to 5x114 by swapping the hubs. If any of you have do i need anything else besides the hubs or do i need the A Arm also from a STI, or is it the same as the wrx. thanks
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:06 PM   #2
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:39 PM   #3
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Not sure what year/model car you're coming from, but i have an 04 STi, and here it is:

Its quite simple.
Step 1: contact 6gunracing (.com)
Step 2: order a full kit to suit what your car needs (you can get 05 STi knuckles for the front in 5x114.3 that are machined to retain whatever stock strut you use, i.e. 02+ wrx struts)
Step 3: Install new front knuckles. Quite easy. (remove old, install ABS ring, install knuckle) Then install new 5x114.3 rear hubs in your old knuckles.
Done. Enjoy the wonders of a whole new world of wheel fitment.

Of course a cheaper way i suppose would be to have your existing (or a used cheap set) hubs redrilled in 5x114.3 pattern and then reinstall. But hey, might as well get all new bearings and such while you're at it right (first method)?

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Old 11-19-2007, 02:17 PM   #4
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I have a 05 wrx. I just wanna change the bolt pattern. What do you mean by knuckles? I am not good with these stuff haha
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:19 PM   #5
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And remember, you'll need new rotors too.

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Not sure what year/model car you're coming from, but i have an 04 STi, and here it is:

Its quite simple.
Step 1: contact 6gunracing (.com)
Step 2: order a full kit to suit what your car needs (you can get 05 STi knuckles for the front in 5x114.3 that are machined to retain whatever stock strut you use, i.e. 02+ wrx struts)
Step 3: Install new front knuckles. Quite easy. (remove old, install ABS ring, install knuckle) Then install new 5x114.3 rear hubs in your old knuckles.
Done. Enjoy the wonders of a whole new world of wheel fitment.

Of course a cheaper way i suppose would be to have your existing (or a used cheap set) hubs redrilled in 5x114.3 pattern and then reinstall. But hey, might as well get all new bearings and such while you're at it right (first method)?
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:20 PM   #6
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If you don't know, it's probably not something you want to try. It's a pretty complex job.

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I have a 05 wrx. I just wanna change the bolt pattern. What do you mean by knuckles? I am not good with these stuff haha
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:38 PM   #7
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I wasnt going to do the conversion. Someone else was, but i found out i need a different rear dif so thats a bigger dent in the $$$
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:40 PM   #8
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Just to know, what's the upside to converting?
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:44 PM   #9
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easier for me to find rims, thats my thing. lol
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:47 PM   #10
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I'd convert to 5x100 (from 5x114.3) for the same reason!
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:08 PM   #11
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I'd convert to 5x100 (from 5x114.3) for the same reason!
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Old 11-19-2007, 04:20 PM   #12
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you might need another differential/axles, depends on how you do it. and of course, you'll need new rotors irregardless.

since you have a 05 wrx with 5x100, you could buy a spare set of knuckles (the entire unit that the axle passes through, holds the hub and bearing, and the brakes attach to) or remove yours, then have the hub (where the studs pass through) redrilled for 5x114.3 bolt circle then press your studs back in. that would be acceptable on the front, and on the rear you'd have to have your hub redrilled, if possible, to a 5x114.3 pattern and move the studs, or else swap to a different axle/differential setup to utilize R180 axles and hubs (as mentioned above and below by other posters). Lastly you'll have to see if there a a rotor out there that will match your WRX size, and uses 5x114.3 (anyone know of an oem one?), or else have your existing ones redrilled too.

You could see if 6gun could do a run for ya of std. WRX hubs redrilled with the 5x114.3 bolt circle and then just have all your hubs and bearings swapped at once. Again, still have to locate/redrill rotors. Cost would be those 4 hubs, plus 4 bearings and seals, plus rotors. Not 100% sure if the WRX hubs are capable of this, but i would imagine if 5x114.3 hubs can be redrilled to 5x100, then the opposite can be done.

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Old 11-19-2007, 07:33 PM   #13
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wrong^ stop spreading incorrect info in this thread. Im currently doing this swap. He WILL need a complete 06 sti rear. It has a 3.54 ring. You cant just swap the hub in the rear. The axles from the r160 are completely different. You are right about the front, you need 05+ sti front knuckles and front shocks or new collars for your coilovers. You will also need the abs rings adapters from 6gun. I recomend getting sti front axles also as they arent the crappy tripod style. Since you have a 05 you have male-male axles. Then of course you need wheels. I dont think ive missed anything.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:53 PM   #14
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i'm not completely incorrect. don't assume yours is the only way.

first of all, he doesn't need new shocks in the front. 6gun offers knuckles machined down to accept 02+wrx width struts. i know. i have them. (I still run D-specs.)

2nd. if you need new axles in the rear to use STi hubs w/ 5x114.3, then he could simply take my 2nd suggestion, which is to have some WRX hubs redrilled for 5x114.3 bolt circle and move the studs. assuming there is enuf room on the hub (only moving the bolt circle 7mm out, i'll bet its doable), then this would only necessitate removing and reinstalling the hubs from the knuckle, no more difficult than replacing a wheel bearing. all you're really doing is changing the bolt pattern on your hubs.

(did fix my incorrect info above, however, thanks for correcting me)
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:34 PM   #15
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no problem, I wouldnt try your way in the rear though. Too many things to "modify" By swapping the complete rear, hell now have a well proportioned brake system, a r180 rear diff, and it bolts right up. I know 6gun sells modded knuckles but you can get takeoffs for fairly cheap compared to $11??.00 for 6guns. All the parts for mine is right at 2900 shipped + wheels...but I ordered early 04 sti front axles, aluminum lca, brembos w/o the front rotors. I also have to order new endlinks, but stock ones and a stock rear sway came with mine. Mine is an upgraded swap, not all stock. Ill have 6500 invested not including my own time. It took me about 3 hours to strip my car down, rear and front. btw almost 3k of my swap is wheels.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:22 AM   #16
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I was wondering if anyone from the forums ever convertered there 5x100 to 5x114 by swapping the hubs. If any of you have do i need anything else besides the hubs or do i need the A Arm also from a STI, or is it the same as the wrx. thanks

There are more wheel designs available for 5x100 than 5x114. Stick with what you got, the amount of problems that may occur after you completed the swap will certainly dent your wallet. Try subydude.com or fastwrx.com.
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There are more wheel designs available for 5x100 than 5x114. Stick with what you got, the amount of problems that may occur after you completed the swap will certainly dent your wallet. Try subydude.com or fastwrx.com.
The 5x100 selection gets pretty thin when you try to find anything 9" or wider.
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There are more wheel designs available for 5x100 than 5x114. Stick with what you got, the amount of problems that may occur after you completed the swap will certainly dent your wallet. Try subydude.com or fastwrx.com.
So what problems do you think will occur after replacing stock parts with stock parts? And youll have to show me proof on "more" wheels designs for the 5x100 unless their for a scion tc or a neon
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:45 AM   #19
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yeah, i'll agree readily there. there are far more fitments and offset ranges avail in 5x114.3 anyday than 5x100. 5x100 is almost a dead bolt pattern. 5x114.3 is what most japanese 5-bolt uses are moving to almost exclusively. And of course its well used by US manufacteurs as well.

It would be nice if imprezas had gone to that instead of 5x100 from the beginning. I have tons of cars that use 5x114.3, and tons of wheels. hunting down 5x100 for the 6 subarus i've owned sux.
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:27 AM   #20
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Threadjack: Anybody have any drawings of WRX and STi hubs? I'd kind of like to see what the differences are in regards to dimensions.
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