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Old 01-24-2002, 11:18 AM   #1
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At any rate, I'm posting here to avoid shipping. After a few days, I'll post in the Private Classifieds.

Here's the deal: DMS Golds, with the fancy breathers from the 50mm Giants (regular Golds don't have this). It seemed to make them smoother on the road, since the air from the shaft motion now has somewhere to go.

They come with 180/180 springs, with a set of 225s thrown into the deal. They're about a year old, so they aren't pretty, but they work beautifully. They will fit any Scooby around, except the 2K+ Legacies. With tools, etc.

$1100 without the STi tops, which I'm keeping.

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Old 01-24-2002, 11:39 AM   #2
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Kevin.
If you can wait a couple of days for me to get my tax returns back, you've got 'em sold!
Also, if you keep your tops, where can I get a set?
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Old 01-24-2002, 11:43 AM   #3
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I'm gonna cry, I just saved about that much in my "spend it on the car" fund but had to blow it on my stupid insurance deductable from the break-in

$1100 with or without the tops is... it's just crazy... I want DMS sooo bad... oh well, just have to keep saving.

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Old 01-24-2002, 11:44 AM   #4
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Dammit...why am I broke right now...oh wait, that's all the time.

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Old 01-24-2002, 12:37 PM   #5
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They'd be $1300 with the tops, but the tops fit the WRX or 95-99 Legacy models.

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Old 01-24-2002, 05:25 PM   #6
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ARGH!!! Lack of job means no toys. I guess I'll put myself next inline, Kevin. If TC falls thru, I will be able to come up with the money once I shake my couch upside down.

Seriously, I'm going on an interview tomorrow. If I get it, I'll definitely want to be next in-line.

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Old 01-24-2002, 05:57 PM   #7
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Kevin,

Do you want cash or is a check OK?

Seriously though, will these fit on a 2001 RS? If they will fit the RS, I will buy them from you. Are you going to be at any of the ice races soon? you can email me via the button and we can discuss when/where to make the transaction. I am in Milwaukee, but make it down evey once in a while for meets.

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Old 01-24-2002, 06:00 PM   #8
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Oops,

Heh heh, didn't see your offer Todd.

If its a race, I already have the money, and a full tank of gas.

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Old 01-24-2002, 09:46 PM   #9
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Kevin you know,

I've ridden in your legacy but never in your wagon w/DMS. Maybe it's time for a test drive...
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Old 02-12-2002, 10:20 PM   #10
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Sorry to resurect this thread, but... Are these sold?

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Old 02-13-2002, 07:22 AM   #11
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No, these are no longer for sale.
Kevin decided to just be a big tease and keep 'em!

For some reason, Dave at DMS talked Kevin out of buying the 50's.
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Old 02-13-2002, 10:29 AM   #12
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smart move.
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Old 02-13-2002, 07:25 PM   #13
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Quote:
Originally posted by tcs007
No, these are no longer for sale.
Kevin decided to just be a big tease and keep 'em!

For some reason, Dave at DMS talked Kevin out of buying the 50's.
Hmmm... Guess I'll just hafta pick up new ones then!

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Old 02-14-2002, 02:26 PM   #14
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Yoshi,

Where is Aurora are you? I just moved there by Eola and Liberty st.

Hi neighbor.

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Old 02-14-2002, 04:37 PM   #15
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Dave,

That is a little too close to me. I don't remember approving that

Kevin has decided to keep his DMS - at least for today. Check back again tomorrow

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Old 02-14-2002, 07:22 PM   #16
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Quote:
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Yoshi,

Where is Aurora are you? I just moved there by Eola and Liberty st.

Hi neighbor.

David
No kidding? I live over near Eola and McCoy! Just down the street! Welcome to the neighborhood!

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Old 02-14-2002, 09:00 PM   #17
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rao...don't make me drive over there and switch some of the wiring harness labels on that project of yours.

I'm keeping those things, though I might try 225/225 springs just for the sake of experimentation. I still lust after 50s, but I acknowledge that they would be overkill for my needs.

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Old 02-14-2002, 09:27 PM   #18
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I acknowledge that they would be overkill for my needs.
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Old 03-06-2002, 09:21 AM   #19
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I'm sticking with the original order of interest, so those who wanted 'em, you know who you are. PM or email me. They're coming off the car as soon as I get those SPT springs from dwx.

Oh, they have the gold camber washers (-.75), and both types of spring seat (normal and angled) for the rears, with both tools (collars and adjusters) also.

What comes after the SPT spring/stock strut experiment? I dunno. Maybe 50s, maybe Tein Type Wagons, maybe M2 Golds...

The mind boggles in one man's quest to try EVERY bloody suspension setup on a car.

Anyhow, it's the original deal, $1100 without tops, with 225 springs tossed in... Hey, I'll even WASH 'em for youse!

Kevin

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Old 03-06-2002, 09:54 AM   #20
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err... if you're just experimenting why sell the Golds now unless you HATE them?

I know you don't hate them, but it would be ironic if you decided after several sets of buying and selling that you liked the original Golds the best and paid MSRP for another set to replace the ones you sold.

Anyway, there's some zen for you. This obviously isn't about needing the money from selling the Golds.
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Old 03-06-2002, 10:33 AM   #21
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No, Colin, they still work very well. Part of it is that I'm just getting older, and every time I have to go under the car to change damping, my abused 40-year-old body complains. Like the Cobb cat-back I just sold. Nothing wrong with it, it's just me.

But yes, the sale will fund further experiments (why have it come out of my pocket if it doesn't have to? I've got a month in the south of France to pay for! ). It will probably come to pass that these will be the best suspension, performance-wise, that I have ever used. They certainly are to date. But I don't KNOW that, and my nigh-endless quest for hard, objective data breeds a need to absolutely know. I thought that the Tein HAs were the best thing since sliced bread, until the DMS.

There are things that I know, like that JDM spring rates are too much for these weary old bones, so that rules out trying things like Cuscos, Tein HA and similar setups. Ditto for H&R, and the Bilsteins. Again, those spring rates are too high, especially from a linear spring.

I guess that I just like fooling around with the one thing that I really can't screw up, my suspension. It won't blow up, or fall off the car if properly installed. But this is similar to my guitar hobby, where until I settled on what I wanted, I was selling a Les Paul to get an SG, selling that to get a Gretsch, selling that to get something else. What's funny is that I started out with a Tele, and ended up with TWO Teles!

Anyhow...

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Old 03-06-2002, 10:42 AM   #22
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Here I was trying to keep my suspension setup under 1K, researching the pros and cons of adjustable KYB struts and different spring combos, and you go throwing your Golds away for 1,100...
Sooooo tempting, I've always wanted golds but I found a compromise I could live with and pay for in the KYBs. Now this... grrrrr. Is it true prices are starting to come down for the Golds in general? Kevin, I hold you responsible for turning me into a suspension whore.
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Old 03-06-2002, 11:03 AM   #23
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Kevin,

If you are just "experimenting", why not keep your DMS until your experiment with the SPT/stock struts is completed. This way you are not jumping the gun if you find the SPT/stock combo satisfactory or not. Plus, I'm sure the SPT springs cost won't kill you.

It seems like you were always messing around with the settings on your DMS. Was there any settings that worked well and you were satisfied with? I would imagine once that "perfect" setting was found, you wouldn't really need to mess around with the DMS anymore and be done with it(unless you are racing).
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Old 03-06-2002, 11:28 AM   #24
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Cuz springs aren't the only thing I'm buying, I think (more on that later). I believe in letting hobbies pay for themselves.

If I don't like the SPT/stock strut combo, I'll just put the stock springs back on and try something else. I suppose in a year or so, I'll be done, possibly back where I am, but who knows?

Oh, yes. Actually, I was playing with spring rates more than damping rates. IMHO, anything in the range of 12-18 clicks from full hard was perfect for the 180/180 springs. Harder than 10 clicks, and you started getting overdamped. Softer than 20 clicks from full hard, unless you're driving mom around, and it was too soft for my tastes. Very plush, but too much so for me, though it still handled pretty well at 5 clicks from full soft.

But then you want them softer for snow, and softer with snow tires, then firmer for the 17" package. Firmer still for track days, somewhere in the middle for other things. Sometimes you just feel like taking the car out for a late-night flog, and you want 'em nice and stiff for serious corner-bombing.

See what I mean? If you weren't a tinkerer, you could just set them at 15 clicks from full hard and leave 'em, forever. But I'm a fiddler.

Kevin

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Old 03-06-2002, 04:58 PM   #25
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This is a semi old post.. So have you sold these yet or not?



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