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Old 11-22-2007, 08:38 PM   #1
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I have Prodrive P1's on my Wagon and currently running 225 Pirelli PZero Neros but they are needing replaced. I never liked them much because the way the flat spot overnight during cool temperatures. Also, I hope to get Prodrive springs this spring so I think I might need a 215 tire.

So, anyone have a recommendation for an all season tire for my needs?
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Old 11-22-2007, 09:24 PM   #2
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general exclaim uhp?
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:36 AM   #3
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yerrow, I don't understand your question.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:23 PM   #4
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On my wagon I am running rota p1s 18x8 with kuhmo escata asx all season tires 225/40/18 on swift springs and love them so far . I had minor rubbage on buig bumps in parking lots, nothing from regular driving. I only took a rubber mallet and a heat gun and banged the rear fender lip in to fix the problem. You should be fine running the same tires with a drop depending on your offset. Mine is 48mm. Hope that helps a bit.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:19 PM   #5
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yerrow, I don't understand your question.
the exclaim uhp was my suggestion. while its considered a "ultra high performance" tire, it has doesn't have the large tread blocks most tires in its class does. so they say it actually performs well in m/s/sluch conditions
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:37 PM   #6
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the exclaim uhp was my suggestion. while its considered a "ultra high performance" tire, it has doesn't have the large tread blocks most tires in its class does. so they say it actually performs well in m/s/sluch conditions

I thought it was severe broken English asking how much how much HP I run

Thanks for the suggestion, I will look them up.

I still cannot believe I thought that
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:43 PM   #7
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I'm not certain of the offset, I purchased them from South Coast Subaru and they were for my model year. I still have the invoice from a few years ago but it doesn't give any details. Doing searches from other sites I believe they might be 7.5" with 53mm offset. Does that sound reasonable?
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:01 AM   #8
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With 7.5 wide and 53 offset you should be just fine to run 225's , but I could be wrong. The offset should be stamped on the inside of the rim.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:20 AM   #9
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Now that you mention it, I do recall seeing the number stamped on them. I will look tomorrow and find out for sure. I would love to be able to run 225's with Prodrive springs without modifications. The number of tires available in 215/18" are pretty slim.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:40 PM   #10
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Update;
Checking my offset was the best thing I have done... maybe ever. Today I pulled off one wheel to find the offset. When I turned the tire around I could not believe my eyes. The tread was separating from the sidewall. There are a few massive tears down to the cords and in one area (about 12" long) even the cables are complete broke in two. This tire was ready to go at any moment! Odd thing is, as I swapped tires back to my stockers the once I checked was the only one in that condition. Had I checked any of the other tires, I would have been driving on the old 18's tomorrow.

Oh, the offset is 53.
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Old 11-26-2007, 09:21 PM   #11
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If they are 53 then you should be fine to runn the 225's. Mine are 48 and barley rub. I had 43 before and they rubbed like a SOB. So they should be fine, you might have to do the rubber mallet but I dont think you will.
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:07 PM   #12
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Excellent! Thanks for the reply.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:17 AM   #13
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go with 225s, and for all season tires? if you got the money get a set of Pilot sport A/S.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:47 AM   #14
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The Pilot Sports are more than I can justify at this time. I would like to keep it about $140 and under per tire.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:24 PM   #15
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What kind of all-season are you looking at? More snow-oriented, more dry oriented, comfort, etc?

I had Continental ContiExtremes and they were the best balance between ride, dry grip, steering response, wet stability, and predictability in lose conditions (snow, gravel - not as much grip as more snow oriented A/S though I think) that I ever had out of any tire. Basically, it didn't wow me in any particular category but it was a very good all-rounder. Extremely quiet on the highway too.
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Old 11-27-2007, 08:16 PM   #16
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Importance first being listed most important.

1 - Dry performance
2 - Wet performance
3 - Wear
4 - Noise
5 - Snow
6- Comfort

I might drive in light snow/slush conditions but if things get too bad we have another ride we can use. Right now I'm sort of considering the Goodyear Eagle F1 All Season but I will look more into the ContiExtreme Contacts, General Exclaim, and Kuhmo Escata Asx.
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