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Old 12-03-2007, 12:31 AM   #101
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definitely one of the best threads i've come across
i too am a young teenager (19) but i drove a 105hp corolla for 3 years before i got my wrx (u can't kill urself in that thing even if u wanted to hah)
but i see so many kids trying to race me on the streets all the time.
i don't feel like i have much to prove to them. i love my car. i think its fast. i dont really care if anyone else does.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:51 AM   #102
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Sticky!!!!
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:11 AM   #103
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Awesome thread. I make 320whp on my FXT and its more than enough. STICKY for sure
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Old 12-03-2007, 07:16 AM   #104
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If I had 400 awhp, I would continuously soil myself and the seat cleaning bills would be prohibitive. .
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:18 AM   #105
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Kudos to the OP for a great thread. I'd like to think it would make a difference but having been around the import "mod" scene since the early nineties, it's like trying to drain the ocean with a 5 gallon bucket.

The competitive nature of young males sometimes makes for rash decisions that lack common sense. Let's face it, unless someone is participating in organized racing having a heavily modified 400+hp STi as a DD is just silly.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:49 AM   #106
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Great thread! It's like the doom and gloom we've posted in our tuning guide.

http://www.pandlmotorsports.com/cari...ourvehicle.pdf <-- for those who hadn't read it.

I make an unbelievably poor salesman because I'm so honest with people about the realistic longevity and costs involved.

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Old 12-03-2007, 02:39 PM   #107
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The competitive nature of young males sometimes makes for rash decisions that lack common sense. Let's face it, unless someone is participating in organized racing having a heavily modified 400+hp STi as a DD is just silly.
.....there are an unlimited number of 'silly' people out there.....FAR fewer capitalizing on, and even encouraging it

....and laughing their ****ing asses off at them...all the way to the bank with all the silly fools loot in tow.....

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Old 12-03-2007, 05:30 PM   #108
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a 295whp subaru still scares the **** out of me at times, more than enough power for me..but it's all in personal taste. The internet bench wars have done wonders for these "400, 500whp"ers that have never driven 250whp for that matter.

Thanks for the writeup, it is a good contribution
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Old 12-03-2007, 05:33 PM   #109
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I remember what it was like to be a 16-20 year old guy. The number one thing in my life was scoring with the ladies. Nice wheels, nice sound system, a COMFY car that is clean and in great shape will get you a LOT farther than a hard riding, noisey "race car". Spend it on a nice stereo. MB Quarts and Zapco amps with an alpine head unit is an amazing thing to behold.
Is she on the fence about getting naked? Her favorite song at just the right volume level, with INSANELY high quality sound is a panty peeler.
Glad I have a g/f over 5 years lol...haven't spent a lick on the stereo But I do keep the car clean
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Old 12-03-2007, 05:45 PM   #110
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What a horrible sound, he blew up his motor racing an M3 that wasn't racing him. Too funny!
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:32 PM   #111
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Soriry to change subject but I'm having trouble navigating the site. I want to either sell my car in the classified or find a transmission for it, please help.
Paul try these:

Private for sale classified forum -- http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9

Drive train sub forum in classified -- http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=151
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Old 12-05-2007, 12:14 AM   #112
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I make an unbelievably poor salesman because I'm so honest with people about the realistic longevity and costs involved.

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Yeah I have talked a couple customers out of a sale too
Luckily I usually convince them to spend the money on something else, then I sell that to them.
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:02 AM   #113
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ppl want 500whp most probably because they watch too much youtube and see all the car hitting 5xx or 6xx whp, lol

I am @ ap stage 2 and the power is much more than enough for a daily drive already

I would love to try a 400+whp daily driver though, give me an Enzo please
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Old 12-05-2007, 10:55 AM   #114
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I would support this as being a sticky too. Far too often people only consider the amount of power a car makes when evaluating its performance. My car is making right at 305 whp and 340 wtq. This is PLENTY of power on the street (really can't use it all) and PLENTY on the track (road course, not 1/4 mile). Maybe take all the money you were going to spend on bigger turbos, injectors, FMIC, pistons, etc. etc and put it into a quality suspension setup (Tein need not apply), some good tires (no r-comps until you get some experience), and some track time. I guarantee you will have more fun with your car every day, not just when you are the track. You will also be a better driver and you will know the limits of your car. Furthermore, as long as you take meticulous care of your car, you won't suffer the reliability issues of a 400whp.

CN: Throw the money at suspension, tires, and track time!!

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Old 12-05-2007, 01:20 PM   #115
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wow, dave.

you have come so far!

the only thing i have to add is that folks don't seem to respect the journey anymore.

what i mean by that is you should ENJOY the modding process... it's not all about the "destination" of having a really fast car.

taking little steps towards your goal after working diligently is ultimately so much more rewarding than blowing your load right up front. anybody can toss stupid amounts of money at any problem and solve it with a "sledgehammer" approach, but only the dedicated and ingenious solve things cheaply yet with elegance.
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Old 12-05-2007, 03:20 PM   #116
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I would support this as being a sticky too. Far too often people only consider the amount of power a car makes when evaluating its performance. My car is making right at 305 whp and 340 wtq. This is PLENTY of power on the street (really can't use it all) and PLENTY on the track (road course, not 1/4 mile). Maybe take all the money you were going to spend on bigger turbos, injectors, FMIC, pistons, etc. etc and put it into a quality suspension setup (Tein need not apply), some good tires (no r-comps until you get some experience), and some track time. I guarantee you will have more fun with your car every day, not just when you are the track. You will also be a better driver and you will know the limits of your car. Furthermore, as long as you take meticulous care of your car, you won't suffer the reliability issues of a 400whp car.

CN: Throw the money at suspension, tires, and track time!!

-Rob

So if you don't think Tein makes a decent suspension what would recomend I get. I'm only asking cuz I'm trying to upgrade my suspension (Coilovers/swaybars) send me a pm or something
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Old 12-05-2007, 03:41 PM   #117
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good write up, but will noobs be able to find it... I mean will the *...400whp"* show up when they search for *400whp* due the the exclamation mark?
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:05 PM   #118
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great thread...

i agree with this a 100% Both about the financial thing and the driving aspect of it. Now i have only been driving for 2 years and i don't see myself as a great driver or anything ( skill wise) but i consider myself better than the average. ( not a compliment since the average Us citizen is prolly as smart as a 3 year old)

With driving i believe the idea of gradually improving is great. I myself started off with a 96 integra with a 140hp at the crank. Did some mods and 1.5 years later sold it. Then bought a 99GSX (200hpish), but it was a money dump and i sold it. Then i bought the closest thing to a "sports car" out of all my cars. Turbo Mr2... I loved that car and learned a lot from. The car was not ideal for Chicago winters so i sold it. And now i picked up my wrx wagon a month ago. Yes i do feel the need to start modding it. But i am doing it slowly. In the spring i will take a "leap" in hp when i upgrade turbos. Not trying to get anything crazy just to about 280whp.

The financial aspect of paying off a car before modding it, i agree to an extend. I can see people that want to mod it before the own the car. However, i myself can't ever do that. Ever since i was 13(caddying) i started working so i could buy my first car. After buying my Integra i started to also deliver when i didn't caddy. Bassicly with all my cars i would work for them and learn the value of a dollar. When it came time to buy my subie i paid for it all on the spot... I just cant stand being in debt to someone... I know it will have to happen someday, when buying a house or something. But at this stage in my life i rather not.

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Old 12-05-2007, 04:53 PM   #119
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good write up, but will noobs be able to find it... I mean will the *...400whp"* show up when they search for *400whp* due the the exclamation mark?
you are the lazy , yes it shows up without the ! mark.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:57 PM   #120
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Very good write up!
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Old 12-05-2007, 05:12 PM   #121
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wow, dave.

you have come so far!

the only thing i have to add is that folks don't seem to respect the journey anymore.

what i mean by that is you should ENJOY the modding process... it's not all about the "destination" of having a really fast car.

taking little steps towards your goal after working diligently is ultimately so much more rewarding than blowing your load right up front. anybody can toss stupid amounts of money at any problem and solve it with a "sledgehammer" approach, but only the dedicated and ingenious solve things cheaply yet with elegance.


Amen brother!

5 engines, 3 transmissions, 2 rear ends, 2 center differentials, 9 turbos, 3 sets of injectors, 3 EMS, and about $70k+ later, I finally accomplished everything I wanted to do with the car (which by todays standards is a joke), that was to simply have a no nonsense 12 second car. Without drama, without issue, etc.

I put it in drive, and it runs mid 12's at 112MPH traps.

Funnny, how now-a-days, people take for granted how simple it is to call Protorque and order up the torque converter model I originally tested. Or IPT, and get what they need after guys like myself, Kha0s, PadreWRX, etc cut our teeth on helping them make, or order up a UTEC which Phil/Nathan/myself tested and helped refine before coming to market.

... and now, I'm like "now what?"

Put it back to stock after almost 6 years, and give it to the wife as a daily driver for her and the kids.

Yeah... today I could build my wagon as it sits for less then $15k. But I'd never trade the experience!

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Old 12-05-2007, 11:32 PM   #122
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interesting write-up, and subsequent thread following. i hope it inspires the readers to question their ambitions on an honest/realistic level.
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Old 12-05-2007, 11:35 PM   #123
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interesting write-up, and subsequent thread following. i hope it inspires the readers to question their ambitions on an honest/realistic level.
....d000000000000000000000000000000d.....


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Old 12-05-2007, 11:40 PM   #125
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....ya 'aint been around here long, have ya ???
obviously i dont have a bazillion posts like some *ahem, you*

and what does that have to do with the hope that at least some ppl could learn a few things from this thread.
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