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Old 07-03-2013, 09:15 PM   #1101
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Stupid write up. Don't get butt hurt because everyone wants a fast car. First it starts with "ur car ain't sh*it unless youre making XX amount of whp, and then when ppl start seeing that as a standard, you bash them for wanting it. If anything ur the one to blame for making it sound like its a necessity to have that much power, and then providing it for them. Let ppl do what they want and worry about ur own car. I don't think that a teenager needs that much power under their control either, but that's the parents job, and not ours to tell them otherwise.
And another thing that bugs me about this, is that when that 17 year old kid that wants a rotated set-up, comes into your shop, and you are more than happy to sell it to them, who's the one at fault. You believe that its dangerous for everyone with inexperienced drivers on the road, yet ur the one that is providing them with that deadly weapon. Its hypocritical. But your shop needs the business so hey!
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:27 PM   #1102
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I remember when I got my 04, the first thing I looked into was getting 400 hp. I think people who just got their car need to feel what a stage 2 STi feels like. PLENTY of power and fun
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Old 07-09-2013, 07:24 PM   #1103
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400HP? shoot, i got super excited when i stepped on the gas pedal to get off the on ramp to pass a 18 wheeler driven by a German that wouldn't let me pass...heck even my kids were excited that it was faster than my BWM...lol...but thanks for the write up...makes it easier for me to make my choices...baby steps for me!!!
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:38 PM   #1104
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I put down 320whp and 377 wtq and I'm ready to move it up just a matter of affording built block, so my answer would be yes I want 400+whp!
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:23 PM   #1105
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I remember when I got my 04, the first thing I looked into was getting 400 hp. I think people who just got their car need to feel what a stage 2 STi feels like. PLENTY of power and fun
Not to mention that it's more about using the ponies you've got, not the peak. Sort of like how you look more at rms power out of an amp than its peak power. Area under the curve... Integral of hp(t) dt & tq(t) dt.

That's my goal: good, solid reliable torque over a broad powerband & solid power that builds fast & pulls all the way to redline, with oh.... ~280 awtq & ~300awhp.

Alot of that is going to be having reliable basic "go fast bits" with a tuner who knows how to get your engine to make reliable, safe power with them. It really isn't as much about the bolt-ons, and more having only what the car needs & a tuner who knows what to do with them.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:31 PM   #1106
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thanks for the write up
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Old 07-12-2013, 05:04 PM   #1107
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nice post
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Old 07-28-2013, 06:46 AM   #1108
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thanks for the write up, good info.
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:05 AM   #1109
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good thread. thanks
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Old 08-25-2013, 12:48 PM   #1110
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Where would be a good place for a custom tune?
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Old 08-25-2013, 12:51 PM   #1111
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Where would be a good place for a custom tune?
a tuner shop
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Old 10-10-2013, 06:00 AM   #1112
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I bought a 300 WHP 3 freakin years ago, and I STILL get to scared to go above 5k.....handling before power will always give more experience and less :'''((( because "I wanted more power" they said..... "I don't know why my block is on fire!" they said....
great info by all! getting told you're wrong shouldn't be an insult; it should be a "thanks for stopping me from killing myself!" 23 and wayyyyyyy too much to learn! like stance! with a gagillion clicks, knobs, and settings, a slow kid gets lost very easily.... how bout someone actually posts facts and information on what things do and why, instead of having an opinion and letting everyone know that "this" works for "me" in "this setting"......well no @$%$!!! you ARE driving it right?......bottom line is im getting the dreaded clunk, and it looks like coilovers are a bit overkill, AND you need to buy other parts to get it to work, adjust it juuuuussst right, and zip-tie it for good measure because all I've seen is one-of-a-kind jerry rigged set-ups if you plan to spend less than 5-6 thousand dollars!.... I don't have that kind of money to piss away, and Im certainly jealous of anyone who does.....but in the meantime, help us young-ins and post something usefull. -thanks! ;D
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Old 10-11-2013, 11:02 AM   #1113
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I think rudimentary English and grammar lessons are probably a prerequisite to asking for help, if only to not have to pick your posts apart like so many strings of spaghetti
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:17 PM   #1114
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i want 400whp along with the next guy, my pockets are too shallow though
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:28 PM   #1115
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A lot of great information here
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:45 AM   #1116
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People come in here posting they have a 400whp goal because they don't know how fast 400whp really is on an AWD... but even then, anyone who gets to 400whp pretty much has enough experience to handle 400whp... given the fact that they don't take a big plunge into upgrades too quickly. your theory is that someone with a stock sti, 230whp, will upgrade to 400whp right off the bat, resulting in a big change of driving, which I agree can be dangerous. But who really does that? Who is going to really drop all that money AT ONCE to go from 230whp directly to 400whp? Most likely, they will get upgrades that get about 50-60whp max at once, and drive it for a while, and get a little more power, until they reach their goal. So in my theory they'd be going 230whp... plus a few mods... then be at 260whp... then maybe some other mod and be at 280whp... then 320whp... etc. So they are pretty much taking step by step experience.
My sentiments exactly!

I would definitely love to increase the power of my car because I want to and I can afford to do it without bankrupting myself. I am well aware of the risks involved and have accepted it however I only speak for myself on that.

It's good to warn folks about the risks of increasing power but if you make it seem like the rest of us noobs are complete idiots for wanting to increase said power and have not thought of the risk sounds pretty condescending and would deter folks from trying to gain the knowledge and experience of modding. I think that it would been beneficial if you had posted what you did to gain your power and added disclaimers here or there would've been more useful. This is just my opinion by way and not a personal attack of any kind.

Seeing that my stock car is pushing 230whp, I would like to get to 300whp and if I am satisfied with the power and feel and safety of my car the I'll probably say, ok I'm good, if I want more then I will continue as long as I can afford it and not destroy my car or put anyone at risk.

What came with my car...

Cobb Access-port

What I've installed so far in my car...

Perrin SR Intake

What I've recently purchased...

Kartboy Short Shifter with Delrin Shift Knob

What I plan on buying at least 2-3 months apart...

Stoptech Sport Brake Kit
Koyo Aluminum Radiator
Cosworth Air Pump Delete Plates
Cobb TBE
NGK Iridium Spark Plugs
Spark Plug Wires
Better set of Summer and Winter tires

I am definitely open to suggestions to accomplish my goal and will definitely review each input carefully before making any kind of decisions. I am stationed in Germany so I don't know of any tuner shops around here so taking it to a professional tuner might be difficult as well as getting it on a dyno.

Always, I appreciate everyone's contributions to this forum where noobs like me can learn.
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:18 PM   #1117
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i once did a search on upgrades on the rather rare 2008 WRX with a 4EAT combination.

it would cost easily $4500 to get the transmission strong enough to handle 300hp without excessive wear. put that along with the engine mods to get there and other enhancements like tires, brakes, suspension, exhaust, intercooler etc. to get 400hp while keeping decent reliablity would probably cost another $10k if you have someone do the work.

for a DD i think ill stay with 224hp/225tq and 20mpg around town
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:59 PM   #1118
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I have been browsing on and off on this forum. I was stuck on getting STI for a good year. Finally came around to seeing that the STI is not for me, I am a few months away from Purchasing/ordering in a WRX now. All I want to do to it now is a full exhaust system and a good tune. This post makes me feel a lot better about my decision.
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Old 11-05-2013, 02:59 AM   #1119
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great post. wish i would have read it before i bought a 350whp subie and broke my trans haha
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Old 11-09-2013, 10:28 AM   #1120
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Great read thanks
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Old 11-11-2013, 02:20 PM   #1121
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This was extremely informative, not that I didn't know a lot of this but it's good to hear from someone who is more experienced than I
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Old 11-21-2013, 01:48 PM   #1122
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Cobb Stage 1 on a 2013 WRX - 16lb boost target - E-Tune

Had it on the dyno and it made 240/268.

With this simple setup....it runs very well as a DD. In 2nd and 3rd, boost comes on quickly and gets you to 90mph PDQ.

I like power as much as the next guy, but I'm really not willing to sacrifice reliability to get it. The other question is how much do you really "need"? In a project car or weekend toy....it's an exercise in fun doing all the mod work to get the most out of it. This one is a DD for me, and while I want it fun and enjoyable....I also want it as bullteproof as I can make it.

The tune only has small adjustments to help it spool maybe a bit quicker, but more important, it's a very smooth run from 2k to redline.

While I'd love to get my hands on a car thats putting down 400whp...I don't think I'd want to invest the time and money to get it there....or live with it on a daily basis.
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Old 11-23-2013, 11:02 AM   #1123
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could not have said it any better
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:17 PM   #1124
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Old 11-29-2013, 01:34 AM   #1125
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thanks for the info op!
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