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Old 11-23-2007, 11:05 PM   #1
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Default '07 LGT Ecutek "Flash Can" tune with FP Green and Aquamist

Today I have been tuning with with Ecutek's amazing new "Flash Can" product which is the future of Subaru ecu reflashing. I wanted to point out that Ecutek was the first to develop a reflashing application for Subarus and they continue to innovate and make cutting edge products with this new product which supports all '07 LGT and FXT as well as '08 WRX and STI.

It was great to recieve a product with zero bugs, zero problems and working 100% right out of the box.

We have had a customer who's '07 LGT has been built at Ics Performance who has been waiting for the Ecutek to arrive for a couple of weeks.

This car has a FP Green w/ EWG
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After a short period of working with the new application and starting to get the car to run we exceeded the capacity of the SPT intake as we have saturated the 65 mm intake tube and the MAF is pegged at 5.0 V


We plan to fabricate a cold air intake with a larger 3.2" MAF next week and continue the tuning

This dyno sheet does not represent a final tune as the MAF capacity was exceeded. I lifted the gas right after 6,000 when the car began to go lean as a result of MAF saturation.

However, I wanted to post it even in rough form as this car really impressed me with its fast spool up and impressive power at 21 psi of boost.

Also - the trick install work by Ics Performance with the custom in dash gauge install is very nice.

I am very impressed with the Ecutek "Flash Can" and appreciate Ecutek's ongoing commitment to the development and R & D of cutting edge products.














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Old 11-23-2007, 11:10 PM   #2
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is the ecutek flash available for all tuners? I know Ben has been personally tuning 07/08's, but has the product been formally released to ecutek dealers? thanks for the update, glad to hear it is a solid product. my 08 spec b desperately needs to be tuned, has a horrendous "dip" in the rpm band, it's killing me
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:15 PM   #3
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Yes - the product has been released and is generally available

The Si drive features are also tunable
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:25 PM   #4
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is the ECU still effectively locked out by the EcuTeK software? Nice results. This thread has already been linked on www.legacygt.com
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:32 PM   #5
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At this point the only tool which can tune the can bus ecu is Ecutek so its a moot issue. I assume that Ecutek can be removed and the ecu reverted to stock as with the previous Ecutek product. in time we will discover for example if Cobb Ap can over write the Ecutek Flash Can product for example. At this juncture, I am just overjoyed to have a tool to tune these fine cars, and really overjoyed that its a really good tool that works flawlessly.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:38 PM   #6
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Cool. I was just wondering if this was something they addressed. Can't find any info about it on the EcuTeK site yet. Congrats on the tune.
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:01 PM   #7
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We are installing the Big MAF today and hopefully will have more dyno results later today or tomorrow
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:46 PM   #8
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great news, ive been waiting diligently for a canbus reflash!
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:36 PM   #9
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After this little incident... http://badisp.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1027462

I think not...
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:21 PM   #10
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After this little incident... http://badisp.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1027462

I think not...
To each his own

I do not blame Ecutek for locking up their product given the realities of the industry. R & D costs a great deal of money and I am sure they don't want all their hard work to be copied and misappropriated. This is a perfect example of how Ecutek has been the first to release a flash can product and who could blame them for protecting the work they have done? I have been selling Ecutek for several years now and I have not had any issues with customer's being upset about being locked out of their ecus. 99.999% of my customers are not self tuners which is why they came to a professional (myself) to get the tuning and why not being able to make adjustments is not a problem. Remember - Ecutek is a professional TUNED final product - not a do it yourself tool and potential customers need to see if that kind of product suits their needs. HKS V PRO is another example of a product only available through authorized dealers and only able to be tuned by an authorized dealer.

I prefer Ecutek to so called "open source" as Ecutek is a superior tuning tool and as they have excelent tech support.

As has been explained before Cobb and Ecutek have cooperated so that an AP can flash over an Ecutek ecu.

The ecu can also be unlocked by any Ecutek dealer simply by flashing it back to stock - which I do for free

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Old 11-27-2007, 04:34 PM   #11
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Locking people out of their ECU is not cool. Not everyone returns the ECU to stock for free. I don't see the superiority of EcuTek at all. It's the same basic hack job done by everyone else. CAN bus is just a communication protocol, it will succumb to a hack soon enough by someone who can play well with others.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:39 PM   #12
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It's CAN. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controller_Area_Network
I think the whole industry is moving towards CAN.

Subaru just changed how they communicate and how the software needs to flash the ECU. I'm pretty certain the underlying ECU is still the same. It's probably still a Renesas 7058 SH-2 CPU, roughly the same tables, etc. The CAN itself doesn't change how the ECU operates, it is a difference in communication protocol.

Congratulations to Ecutek hacking it first. I really can't imagine Cobb is too far behind. Who knows for Openecu, but I imagine it will eventually be available.
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:27 PM   #13
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Locking people out of their ECU is not cool. Not everyone returns the ECU to stock for free. I don't see the superiority of EcuTek at all. It's the same basic hack job done by everyone else. CAN bus is just a communication protocol, it will succumb to a hack soon enough by someone who can play well with others.
Oh if you ONLY knew how ecutek came to be
I'm sure even Al doesn't know the drama behind how that company got started and how they got the code hacks they use
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Oh if you ONLY knew how ecutek came to be
I'm sure even Al doesn't know the drama behind how that company got started and how they got the code hacks they use
fess up. You can't leave a cliff hanger like that.
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:44 PM   #15
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Enh, I won't get caught up in some legalese trap. Lets just say sometimes people take their work with them from company to company...
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Enh, I won't get caught up in some legalese trap. Lets just say sometimes people take their work with them from company to company...
If their past actions are any reflection of what they're capable of....

On topic: Looks like a nice setup, in light of my disdain for EcuTek.
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:32 PM   #17
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Colby is working on the CAN Flash stuff for openecu.

I don't see how openecu is inferior Al. Perhaps for a tuner who wants to get things done as fast as possible, yes. For your hobbyist who wants to tune their own car, it is just fine.
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