Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Monday April 27, 2015
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Subaru Models > Legacy Forum

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-25-2002, 01:32 PM   #1
Kucheto
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 3688
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: PDX
Vehicle:
2002 Impreza 2.5RS
Blue Ridge Pearl

Question Upgrading brakes, need advice!

Well, I've had my 95 Legacy for about 2 years now and I have not done anything to the brakes. Just clean them every once in a while.

The car has 46K on it and I think the car just doens't stop the way I want it to.

When I drive my brother's 97 GT I can definatelly tell the difference for braking. Of course he has a bit larger rotors and the dual piston calipers.

So, I was looking to get the Goodridge Stainless Steel Brake Line Kit from Teague's Auto (i like his price best). I've heard good things about the brake lines, so I will get them.

The questions is should i get better rotors? And if yes, which ones? (see below)

I was also offered rotors(used) from a 98 Outback with the Outback dual piston calipers(used). They were offered to me for $200.

Well, for $200 looks like I can get the "EBC Sport Disk for Legacy with 2 pot calipers. Slotted and "Blind Hole" dimples" from Teague's Auto. That also means that I'm gonna have to buy better brake pads.

My goal here is to spend no more than ~300 for better brakes. I'm jsut not sure if ai really need the slotted rotors!!

Can you guys makes some suggestions?

Thanks,
Nick
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Kucheto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2002, 01:57 PM   #2
vvk
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 6436
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Holland, PA
Vehicle:
1998 Impreza 2.5RS
BDP

Default You are in luck!

I suggest you get this:

http://www.subaruparts.com/catalog/?section=150

This kit is a raging bargain at $290! The rotors are positively huge and the braking performance is almost on par with modern European highbuck sedans. It is a direct bolt-on and includes all the hardware. The only drawback for some people is that you have to use 16" rims to clear the calipers. You can't get better bang for the buck than this!
vvk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2002, 04:30 PM   #3
HIHO
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 7624
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Hopefully on a nice single track.
Vehicle:
BD5; family sedan
that just wooped your ass

Default

Talk to GTBGUY. He knows Subaru brakes. I think he is coming out with a kit. I got my rotors and pads from him and am very happy with the increase in stopping power.
HIHO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2002, 04:53 PM   #4
GTBGUY
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2003
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Vehicle:
'99 BGP Legacy GT
'98 QS Legacy L (auto)

Default

Kucheto - As HIHO mentioned, I'll be coming out with a 4pot BBK that works with the Legacy 16" alloy wheels in spring. My suggestion would be to wait for the guys who upgrade to this, pick up their old 2 pots calipers, get a set of new rotors, pads, lines and brake fluid, and you're ready to go. This will probably be the most cost effective way to go. Mind you, you'll have to run a minimum of 15" wheel to work with the 2pot GT brakes.

HIHO - thanks for the props I'm glad you like the new found stopping power
GTBGUY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2002, 09:47 PM   #5
silverSurfer
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1361
Join Date: Apr 2000
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: Used to be Long Island/NYC...
Vehicle:
1999 Legacy GT Ltd.
2006 Rav4 Sport Silvarrr

Default

hey just wondering, is there anyway to retrofit the rear pots with our original 2pots if we upgrade to 4pots in the front? I think that'd be really kewl and would most definately work the best

-chrisC
silverSurfer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2002, 03:54 PM   #6
GTBGUY
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2003
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Vehicle:
'99 BGP Legacy GT
'98 QS Legacy L (auto)

Default

silverSurfer - I've already tried... it will not physically work
the BBK that will be coming out is available with a 2pot rear upgrade.
GTBGUY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2002, 06:14 PM   #7
Legacy777
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 4800
Join Date: Mar 2001
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: Houston, Tx
Vehicle:
1990 Legacy & 97 OBS
AWD 6MT EJ22T AWIC Swap

Default

Quote:
Originally posted by GTBGUY
Kucheto - As HIHO mentioned, I'll be coming out with a 4pot BBK that works with the Legacy 16" alloy wheels in spring. My suggestion would be to wait for the guys who upgrade to this, pick up their old 2 pots calipers, get a set of new rotors, pads, lines and brake fluid, and you're ready to go. This will probably be the most cost effective way to go. Mind you, you'll have to run a minimum of 15" wheel to work with the 2pot GT brakes.

HIHO - thanks for the props I'm glad you like the new found stopping power
GTBGUY,

What sort of pricing you lookin at for these 4-pots? I would like to upgrade to larger rotors, the ones on the early gen legacies are puney. I have aftermarket 16" wheels, so I would hope they would clear my rims. I've also thought about just getting a set of calipers and rotors off a newer model legacy and just use them.

Thanks

Josh
Legacy777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2002, 02:01 AM   #8
Kucheto
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 3688
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: PDX
Vehicle:
2002 Impreza 2.5RS
Blue Ridge Pearl

Thumbs up

Thanks a lot for the advice guys. Really, thank you for your suggestions.

I already have 17" on the car, so the 2 pot calipers should work fine.

GTBGUY, when do you expect to come up with the brake kit. I'm kinda short on time. I have about 45-50% left on my front brakes and I just don't want to risk it in the raining season in Portland.
I got about 60% on the rear.
I can just tell my brakes don't feel right.

What price range for the kit are we looking into? ohh, what is the size of the rotors? Are they cross frilled / slotted ?

thanks again,
nick
Kucheto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2002, 02:44 PM   #9
GTBGUY
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2003
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Vehicle:
'99 BGP Legacy GT
'98 QS Legacy L (auto)

Default

legacy777 & Kucheto - The 4 pot BBK is expected to be way less than the AP Racing/Brembo or Willwood kits. The calipers that will be used, have already been tested for one season on SCCA road racing circuit, and have proved to work very well on the Audi S4. For the fronts it'll most likely be around $1200USD (calipers, pads, brakets, rotors, etc) Rotors will be WRX (USDM) sized, so it's a 11.4" rotor. 2 different lines of kits will be available. One utilizing OE Subaru WRX rotors, the other using a 2 piece rotor (later being the more expensive option). X-drilling or slotting is optional.
GTBGUY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2002, 05:37 PM   #10
ciper
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 15543
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: san francisco, ca
Vehicle:
90BJ Legacy LS ABS
AWD 946 Rio Red Jpn built

Default

Maybe I should have started a new thread, but there is some good info in this one.

Im looking for anyone who has tried using the wrx or forrester hardware (caliper, backing plate, rotor) on the first gen legacy. Are there any issues (besieds the use of larger wheels) that you would run into?
ciper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2002, 02:00 AM   #11
The Real Oaf
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 6608
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Cool, Ca
Vehicle:
1996 Legacy Outback

Default

vvk or anyone that knows:

What comes with the BBK that subaruparts offers?

Paul
The Real Oaf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2002, 09:38 AM   #12
Patrick Olsen
NASIOC Supporter
 
Member#: 120
Join Date: Jul 1999
Chapter/Region: AKIC
Location: Where the Navy sends me...
Vehicle:
1997 Legacy 2.5GT
QuickSilver Metallic

Default Re: You are in luck!

Quote:
Originally posted by vvk
I suggest you get this:

http://www.subaruparts.com/catalog/?section=150

It is a direct bolt-on and includes all the hardware. The only drawback for some people is that you have to use 16" rims to clear the calipers.
The other drawback is that the kit is intended for cars that already have the 2.5GT/Outback/2.5RS/WRX 2-pot front calipers. This thread started because Nick (Kucheto) does not have the 2-pot front calipers, hence that kit doesn't help him much.

Quote:
Originally posted by The Real Oaf
What comes with the BBK that subaruparts offers?
It comes with the Outback/WRX front rotors, Outback/WRX front caliper brackets, and WRX pads. There's also a kit they sell without pads that is $50 cheaper - if you already have pads you like, you could go with that cheaper kit.

Quote:
Originally posted by Kucheto
I was also offered rotors(used) from a 98 Outback with the Outback dual piston calipers(used). They were offered to me for $200.

Well, for $200 looks like I can get the "EBC Sport Disk for Legacy with 2 pot calipers. Slotted and "Blind Hole" dimples" from Teague's Auto. That also means that I'm gonna have to buy better brake pads.
First, I'm guessing you could find a better deal for used parts than that $200 offer. As GTBGUY suggested, just find someone who has converted to an aftermarket brake kit of some sort. Advertise in the Private Classifieds - I'm sure there's someone who has swapped to STi 4-pots or something like that who'd be willing to sell their stock stuff for under $200.

Second, if you do the EBC rotors, you still need calipers (since those rotors are for the 2-pot calipers). By the time you get calipers and pads, you'll be beyond your $300 limit I'm guessin'. Oh, and don't forget the caliper brackets, too.

My suggestion would be to go with used 2.5RS/2.5GT parts, just find a better deal than that $200 (or talk that person down). You can get plain Brembo front rotors for under $50 each new (plus shipping), get the braided lines, some used calipers and caliper brackets from the Classifieds, and some decent pads (the Axxis Metal Masters are supposed to be very good from only $65 at http://www.writerguy.com/primitive/susp.htm#brakes ). It'll be close, but I think you might squeeze in around $300.

Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan
Patrick Olsen is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Upgrading some, need advice WRXSteye20008 Newbies & FAQs 4 06-02-2008 11:47 AM
Need advice on supporting parts for my brake upgrade Hyper Brakes, Steering & Suspension 2 01-31-2008 01:43 PM
Brakes - Need Advice/Opinions ludboy87 North West Impreza Club Forum -- NWIC 8 09-10-2007 01:57 AM
Need advice on brake upgrade 99 RS yamahito Brakes, Steering & Suspension 3 05-12-2005 11:04 AM
HU upgrade, need advice on speaker upgrade JonofScio Car Audio, Video & Security 2 11-07-2004 04:39 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2015 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.