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Old 11-30-2007, 12:23 AM   #1
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Default Tim Bailey of SurgeLine Tuning in Indianapolis E-motor

Start off your new year with a health dose of boost induced torque.

January 4th through 6th Tim Bailey will be doing custom tuning at E-motors in Indianapolis Indiana.

Details coming up soon.

E-motor has a AWD dynocom dyno - similar to a DynoJet. Dyno cost is 150.00 per car.

Tim has tuned over 1200 subaru's and is fluent with all major engine management platforms including:

-Hydra - Hydra EMS certified tuner and reseller
-Turbo XS utec
-Cobb Access ECU Subaru and Mitsubishi EVO (hopefully mitsu software will move out of the beta phase in a couple of weeks)
-Link
-Autronic
-AEM
-EcuTek Reflash - including NEW CAN BUS tuning

Fluent in most popular forms of boost control as well:
-TurboXS Dtec
-apexi AVCR
-AEM
-and many many others

Tuning rates vary depending upon time and difficulty. Most Pump fuel tunes are 225 to 275. Additional fuel types cost 50 to 100 additional depending upon time and difficulty.

More details coming up soon.
Best regards

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Old 11-30-2007, 12:29 AM   #2
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To sign up for the indianapolis tune please fill out my on-line tune request form located here:

http://www.surgelinetuning.com/page.php?page=tune_req

To lock in your tuning slot i require a 125.00 deposit. This deposit is fully refundable up to 10 days before your tune. However, last minute cancellations will forfit the deposit.

If the snow flys - hopefully not - and performance cars can't travel the midwest roads another weekend will be scheduled and all tuning deposit will be good for the second date.

Tentative Schedule

1) E-motors eclipse - AEM
2) E-motors STi - cobb AP
3) namitherussian
4) Steve B
5) Crazy Kev

1) Matt P -dyno runs
2) PSI_XTC
3) Jsudler
4) Rassmusen14
5) rush05WRX
6) dirtyhobo010

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Old 11-30-2007, 12:29 AM   #3
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I hear you like to make "dee torke!!1!1!"
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:20 AM   #4
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yessss....I finally made the list, #3 but oh well. Santa's helper already told me a rotated kit will not fit down the chimney this year. perhaps uncle sam or the easter bunny have a little more desire to help a poor white WRX out
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:10 AM   #5
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hey tim, you started your own company? just wondering...congrats on the new gig.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:43 AM   #6
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Tim B, i will see you in Indy, put me on the list. Do you need me to fill out the form again?
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:38 AM   #7
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yessss....I finally made the list, #3 but oh well. Santa's helper already told me a rotated kit will not fit down the chimney this year. perhaps uncle sam or the easter bunny have a little more desire to help a poor white WRX out
I have a 35R kit for sale.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:47 PM   #8
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EcuTek CAN BUS tuning now available from surgeline

Calling all those 07 - 08 legacies and WRXs that, until now, have been out of luck.

Matt - Now worries on tuning - i was just hoping you'd stop by.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:50 PM   #9
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hey tim, you started your own company? just wondering...congrats on the new gig.
Yes, my own company. SurgeLine opperates as the official remote tuning branch of PDXTuning and i still regularly tune at PDXT. So, despite the official and separate nature of my new venture, SurgeLine and PDXTuning efforts often overlap.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:50 PM   #10
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Tim, more than happy to stop by, I want to see what the thing will do on the "Local Dyno" I keep mentioning the great diagnostic aid a 4wd dyno would be for our dealership lol
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:11 AM   #11
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Sent a $200 deposit Tim. See you in a month brother

May do a race gas tune if you think it is even worth trying with the PE1818?
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:40 PM   #12
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Tim.....shoot me your paypal account to lock in my spot please! Thanks!


NM - Found it on the other thread. Will go out today or tomorrow.
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:47 PM   #13
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:10 PM   #14
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:31 PM   #15
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Sent a $200 deposit Tim. See you in a month brother

May do a race gas tune if you think it is even worth trying with the PE1818?
Bring some fuel with you... I don't know if e-motor keeps fuel in stock.

Yes, its worthwhile to do a race fuel tune.

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Old 12-04-2007, 07:59 PM   #16
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Tim, why did you take me off the list I am in for a pull
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Old 12-04-2007, 10:46 PM   #17
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Tim, why did you take me off the list I am in for a pull
It'll be interesting to see any differences in power numbers from the e-motor dyno compared to the buschur mustang.

Tim
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Old 12-05-2007, 07:13 PM   #18
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My car is running good this time Tim. Running rich, which is goofy because I thought it would be lean with the PE1818F compared to the VF-34. Boost needs to be set. You don't mind if I wait til' Indy to install the Prodrive ECBS, do you? It's too cold and salt dusty to be trying to set boost.
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:54 PM   #19
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I don't need any tuning right now, but I might have to come by to watch and meet some other folks.
It's nice living less than 10 miles from an AWD dyno.

For anyone curious, here is a vid of my car on the e-motor dyno. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtUz26q0mwY
I've also had my car tuned by Tim before.

So a thumbs up for Andy at e-motor and another thumbs up for Tim the tuner.

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Old 12-08-2007, 01:17 PM   #20
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Tim, do you think I will need larger injectors than my Sti pinks for the PE1818? I'd rather not if I don't have to. Or should I invest in an adjustable FPR?

I want to be sure everything goes perfect this time
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:49 PM   #21
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How does a PE1818 compare to the VF34?? Are they pretty comparable? If so, pinks should be ok.

RRFPR = no.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:46 PM   #22
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Tim, do you think I will need larger injectors than my Sti pinks for the PE1818? I'd rather not if I don't have to. Or should I invest in an adjustable FPR?

I want to be sure everything goes perfect this time
Anyone have a compressor map for an 1818?

You can get pretty close the limits with STi pinks and a VF39, 30, 34, of VF22. No harm done to get something a little bigger. I'll look for information and get back to you.

In terms of fuel pressure as a solution:
You could raise the base pressure for the pinks and thus increase their overal flow. however, a rising rate FPR is most definitely not a good idea. The fuel calculations inside the stock ECU are based upon static fuel pressue. The only reason fuel pressure increased with boost is to offset opposite positive manifold pressure.

Base subaru fuel pressure = 43 PSI
20 psi of boost fuel pressure at the rails is = 63 psi
63 psi fuel pressure - 20 psi boost pressure = 43 psi static
In other words, the injectors flow at the same rate at a give duty cycle irrespective of boost pressure.

Best regards
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Old 12-09-2007, 09:07 PM   #23
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How does a PE1818 compare to the VF34?? Are they pretty comparable? If so, pinks should be ok.

RRFPR = no.
It flows more CFM than a VF-22 and almost equal to a Big 16G. It uses the same hot side as the VF-34 but has a GM comp side. I am going to guess it will be like a quicker spool VF-22 in power?

I would rather not buy new injectors, but also don't want to limit the tune due to injectors that are too small.

If Tim B. thinks I should jump up to the 650cc injectors than I will. If not, then I am going to do a dual oil catch can setup. Deatchwerks injectors will run me $369 and I think I may be able to get $150 for my pinks?

Did you get everything done to the car that you needed to Tim?
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Old 12-09-2007, 09:17 PM   #24
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Tim, they have a flow chart for the PE1820 on this site, but no PE1818.

http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/pr...a/inprreza.htm

They both have the same comp side. The PE1820 has the VF-22 hot side.

Most WHP I have seen anyone make is like 315whp or so.

A few have asked why I went with the PE1818. Well I got the tubo with only 10K on it for $500. I sold the VF-34 I had for $400 and it had 40K on it. Lower mile much newer turbo for $100.
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Old 12-09-2007, 09:25 PM   #25
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You guys think that my Carbing sub-frame would be OK to strap the front to?
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