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Old 12-03-2007, 06:23 PM   #1
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Default 7,500-mile oil change becoming new standard

7,500-mile oil change becoming new standard

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/03/7...-new-standard/



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As more vehicles come with synthetic motor oils from the factory, oil change interval recommendations have begun to increase. It looks like 7,500 miles is the new adapted standard. The synthetic oils experience less thermal breakdown and evaporative loss over time compared with conventional oil, which allows for less frequent oil services. Some vehicles have even forgone the traditional dipstick in favor of sensors that determine oil level and adjust the service interval in real time based on your driving habits. However, the decrease in oil changes also means a decrease in service business for dealerships. Dealers rightfully fear a reduction in customer retention and are unsure of the long run effect. Many have found solutions in prepaid maintenance contracts and complete service package deals such as combining tire rotation with your oil service. Also, despite their fears, dealerships won't completely lose out on regular customers as there will always be those reluctant to change their 5,000-mile oil change habit. Plus, there are many people who know the abuse they put their engine through, or don't trust electronic sensors and like to ride on the safe side with frequent oil changes.
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Old 12-03-2007, 06:59 PM   #2
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Interesting... not like it matters to me (thank God for free synthetic oil changes for life!)

Not a huge fan of no dipstick though.
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Old 12-03-2007, 08:17 PM   #3
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Better hope the sensor array that monitors the oil level doesn't crap out, and that you aren't consuming oil when it does.
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Old 12-03-2007, 08:21 PM   #4
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Ive tested samples out to 10 thousand on Amsoil with lots of life left in it.(according to blackstone) 7500 shouldn't be big for a good synthetic.
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:09 AM   #5
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Kind of ironic that companies are going to 7500 just when Subaru is cutting the interval for turbo cars to 3750.

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Not a huge fan of no dipstick though.
My wife's car doesn't have one. I was like WTF??? The car takes 10 qts of synthetic (about $100 worth) but its good for 10k miles or a year, whichever comes first.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:37 AM   #6
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^ what car?? I only know of Porsches that take that much oil and high end sports cars.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:40 AM   #7
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^ what car?? I only know of Porsches that take that much oil and high end sports cars.
Gonna guess a BMW FTW
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:06 AM   #8
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^^Close, Mercedes.
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:42 AM   #9
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I'm sure the oil can handle it, I'm concerned with the filter working effeciently for that long with no issues, mileage or time wise.
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:50 PM   #10
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Kind of ironic that companies are going to 7500 just when Subaru is cutting the interval for turbo cars to 3750.



My wife's car doesn't have one. I was like WTF??? The car takes 10 qts of synthetic (about $100 worth) but its good for 10k miles or a year, whichever comes first.
Seems ironic that you practically answered your own question.

Twice the oil in a normally aspirated vehicle (assuming your wife doesn't have das kompressor) should give quite a bit of comfort to the engineers, don't you think?
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:55 PM   #11
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I guess there will new mods coming on the market for enthusiasts...the performance dipstick retrofit. I couldn't imagine driving a car without a dipstick. I'd be so paranoid all the time...
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:54 PM   #12
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Seems ironic that you practically answered your own question.

Twice the oil in a normally aspirated vehicle (assuming your wife doesn't have das kompressor) should give quite a bit of comfort to the engineers, don't you think?
True. Her car rarely goes over 2500 rpm; mine rarely goes under that.
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Old 12-05-2007, 02:26 AM   #13
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I've got 9 qts of 10-60 full syn, an oil cooler, and an 8250 RPM redline. BMW wants me to wait 8500 miles between changes - I just did one at 4250 to be safe... anyone think I wasted my money?
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Old 12-05-2007, 02:46 AM   #14
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No, you didn't waste your money at all. You clearly know more about oil changes than the engineers at BMW.











Sorry. Really though, if it makes you sleep better at night, it was worth it.
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Old 12-05-2007, 12:14 PM   #15
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BMW wants me to wait 8500 miles between changes - I just did one at 4250 to be safe... anyone think I wasted my money?
Ah, I'm guessing your not going hungry due to the additional oil change Like I tell anyone who brings it up to me, "if I couldn't afford it I wouldn't own it".

And BMW is nutz regardless of brilliant engineers, free maint. or synth oil with thier OCI recommendations (past & current). Especially on M cars and the new turbo engines, I'll gladly spend the extra $500 over 50k miles for the additional oil changes, because if you keep the car past 50k miles BMW will be taking no blame for any problems at that point.

of course if your leasing.....
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Ah, I'm guessing your not going hungry due to the additional oil change Like I tell anyone who brings it up to me, "if I couldn't afford it I wouldn't own it".

And BMW is nutz regardless of brilliant engineers, free maint. or synth oil with thier OCI recommendations (past & current). Especially on M cars and the new turbo engines, I'll gladly spend the extra $500 over 50k miles for the additional oil changes, because if you keep the car past 50k miles BMW will be taking no blame for any problems at that point.

of course if your leasing.....
Actually, yes, I had to forego my digestif cognac last night because of the expense of the oil change...

As you suggested, I'm doing it in case I end up keeping the car outside the warranty period (with the way depreciation is going on my car, it may be better to just hang on to it). Dinan told me that once the E39 M5 motors hit 75-80K miles, they had some sludge buildup - but on their own cars, with more frequent changes, the motors still looked brand new inside at 100K+. Granted, no data on the S85 motors with that kind of mileage yet, but it's not such a big deal to get under the car once every 6-8 months... I only have 10K miles on the car so far.
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:40 PM   #17
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Porsche recommends 20,000 miles on most of their vehicles. 15,000 miles on the new 911's.
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:28 AM   #18
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MINI recommends 15k miles... i think not and will change my oil at around 6-7k.
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Kind of ironic that companies are going to 7500 just when Subaru is cutting the interval for turbo cars to 3750.

Check out my post here, there are some good things to think about posted about four posts down.

http://mnsubaru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20825
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