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Old 04-11-2014, 12:42 PM   #1
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Subaru Stars HELP! Paint swirls on Plasma Blue STI Sedan

I have had my Plasma Blue STI Sedan for just over a year. From day one I noticed Paint swirls all over the car. Is anyone else having similar issue? Also, advice on how to get rid of them? I called a professional detailer and he wanted over $800 to fix the paint which included adding a layer of OptiCoat to the paint. Don't have the $800 to spend on the paint. Thoughts on how to fix the paint swirls??
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Old 04-11-2014, 01:00 PM   #2
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your best option is paint correction, thats the only true way to remove all most all of the swirls, then again for a pro to do takes time and product, what you can do is spend half that money and pick up a orbital polisher kit yourself and learn to do it, Detailers domain has a great kit made by griots and a very good price also.
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Old 04-11-2014, 01:01 PM   #3
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I have plasma blue as well and if you stare at it hard enough you can scratch it. Your not the only one my friend.
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Old 04-11-2014, 01:15 PM   #4
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I have plasma blue as well and if you stare at it hard enough you can scratch it. Your not the only one my friend.
This. You are definitely not alone. Such a gorgeous color yet so fragile.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:06 PM   #5
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I have plasma blue as well and if you stare at it hard enough you can scratch it. Your not the only one my friend.
Ha so accurate..... Yeah Mine came brand new with swirl marks as an option I believe

I've been modifying with rock chips
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:32 PM   #6
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Ha so accurate..... Yeah Mine came brand new with swirl marks as an option I believe I've been modifying with rock chips
I managed to avoid the dips with the help of Auto Supershield and their 3m clear protective film. Highly recommend it!
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Old 04-11-2014, 06:49 PM   #7
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your best option is paint correction, thats the only true way to remove all most all of the swirls, then again for a pro to do takes time and product, what you can do is spend half that money and pick up a orbital polisher kit yourself and learn to do it, Detailers domain has a great kit made by griots and a very good price also.
I don't have plasma blue but I used to have midnight black pearl and it was a pain, it came with swirls as an option too. But was like Plasma Blue looks so good clean.

My concern is the excessive orange peeling on my current WRB car, how much would you guys say was average? Since PB is so dark figured you would have an opinion. My 02 had some but it was no where as near as bad as this newer WRX.

Paint correction can also apparently do wonders for orange peel.
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Old 04-11-2014, 07:41 PM   #8
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I have had my Plasma Blue STI Sedan for just over a year. From day one I noticed Paint swirls all over the car. Is anyone else having similar issue? Also, advice on how to get rid of them? I called a professional detailer and he wanted over $800 to fix the paint which included adding a layer of OptiCoat to the paint. Don't have the $800 to spend on the paint. Thoughts on how to fix the paint swirls??
Thanks
Paint correction will most likely be the only solution to getting rid of the swirls. Unfortunately swirls can be caused by anything and everything. Touching the car in any way can cause "love marks" as Larry from AMMO NYC put it. If you let the dealer detail the car, that could be a large cause of the swirls. Most dealerships are volume shops unfortunately.


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I have plasma blue as well and if you stare at it hard enough you can scratch it. Your not the only one my friend.
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This. You are definitely not alone. Such a gorgeous color yet so fragile.
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Ha so accurate..... Yeah Mine came brand new with swirl marks as an option I believe

I've been modifying with rock chips
Subaru paint is notorious for being very soft paint compared to other manufacturers.

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I don't have plasma blue but I used to have midnight black pearl and it was a pain, it came with swirls as an option too. But was like Plasma Blue looks so good clean.

My concern is the excessive orange peeling on my current WRB car, how much would you guys say was average? Since PB is so dark figured you would have an opinion. My 02 had some but it was no where as near as bad as this newer WRX.

Paint correction can also apparently do wonders for orange peel.
Orange peel can be corrected by some forms of paint correction up to and including wet sanding. All paint correction is based on the principle of leveling the paint to get a "smooth as glass" finish. How much depends on the type of paint correction used i.e. polishing, wet sanding, etc.
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:08 PM   #9
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Paint correction will most likely be the only solution to getting rid of the swirls. Unfortunately swirls can be caused by anything and everything. Touching the car in any way can cause "love marks" as Larry from AMMO NYC put it. If you let the dealer detail the car, that could be a large cause of the swirls. Most dealerships are volume shops unfortunately.








Subaru paint is notorious for being very soft paint compared to other manufacturers.



Orange peel can be corrected by some forms of paint correction up to and including wet sanding. All paint correction is based on the principle of leveling the paint to get a "smooth as glass" finish. How much depends on the type of paint correction used i.e. polishing, wet sanding, etc.
I too have orange peel on the car but it does not bother me as much as the paint swirls... I'm 98% my detailed can take both the twirls plus orange peel off I just domt have the $$$ for it at this time. If you are in SFl area I can PM his info to you.
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Old 04-11-2014, 08:22 PM   #10
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your best option is paint correction, thats the only true way to remove all most all of the swirls, then again for a pro to do takes time and product, what you can do is spend half that money and pick up a orbital polisher kit yourself and learn to do it, Detailers domain has a great kit made by griots and a very good price also.
Agreed.

For about 400 you can get yourself a great polisher, clay bar, polish/wax/sealant etc. and make your car look new. Plus you will have those supplies for several seasons (depending on how often you polish your car). I'm currently in process of purchasing a polisher and supplies, so I've been doing a ton of research. Let me know if you need some help and direction.

Good luck.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:13 PM   #11
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same problem here with my dgm sti. getting it corrected and opti coated on sunday. From all the reviews i have read the opti coat makes the car swirl resistant for a long time
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:24 PM   #12
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I had good luck with just a foam pad and light rubbing compound on my car, your experience may vary. Look into paint correction via professional detail - its your best bet
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Old 04-12-2014, 11:51 AM   #13
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same problem here with my dgm sti. getting it corrected and opti coated on sunday. From all the reviews i have read the opti coat makes the car swirl resistant for a long time
Yes I have a friend that opticoats all his cars. That stuff is amazing. As soon as I can save for my detailed I will get it done.
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Old 04-12-2014, 11:53 AM   #14
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Agreed. For about 400 you can get yourself a great polisher, clay bar, polish/wax/sealant etc. and make your car look new. Plus you will have those supplies for several seasons (depending on how often you polish your car). I'm currently in process of purchasing a polisher and supplies, so I've been doing a ton of research. Let me know if you need some help and direction. Good luck.
thank you and I will take you up on your offer! I'll take all the advice you have! Regards
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Old 04-12-2014, 02:06 PM   #15
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Just remember...even if you have your paint corrected, if you're washing / waxing incorrectly you'll most likely end up with more swirls later. Invest in some buckets, grit guards, a nice wash mit, and microfiber towels for drying and removing wax. I skimmed through the thread and didn't see any mention of the OP's wash routine.

You could post in your regional forum if you're looking to try out a buffer.
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Old 04-12-2014, 02:08 PM   #16
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Subaru paint is notorious for being very soft paint compared to other manufacturers.
It's the water-based paints these days that's soft from multiple manufacturers, not just Subaru. But, at least they're not jumping on the matte bandwagon... Feel real bad for those Veloster people who don't know the first thing about matte paint care.
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It's the water-based paints these days that's soft from multiple manufacturers, not just Subaru. But, at least they're not jumping on the matte bandwagon... Feel real bad for those Veloster people who don't know the first thing about matte paint care.
That is true that every manufacturer has softer paint, but in my experience Subaru is worse then even my Toyota.

That is very true about the matte paint on the Veloster. Hyundai even came out with a how-to on matte paint care. The first thing it says do not use products made for normal paint. Hopefully these folks read it before they attempt anything.

I really hope it's not going to be a growing trend for manufacturers to use matte paint. Ugh!
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Especially since you KNOW the sales people are not going to educate their buyers properly.
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Old 04-13-2014, 11:31 AM   #19
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go on autogeek.com

Meguiars D30001 DA Microfiber Correction Compound 128 oz.
Meguiars G110v2 DA Microfiber Correction System Complete Kit

bought both of these, worked great

Do it yourself, its easy, saves money, and you know it will be done RIGHT.
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Old 04-13-2014, 11:34 AM   #20
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oh, there are many brand on there such as pinnacle and optimum that are great as well, but i bought this kit and had great success.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:35 PM   #21
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oh, there are many brand on there such as pinnacle and optimum that are great as well, but i bought this kit and had great success.
Thank you for the info!!
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